Is there really a God tell me your Opnion (Page 29)

kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Yes, Time and space is variable. So we see everything from our vantage point, which makes it seem constant.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I sometimes have the strange notion that we're in somebody's head. Not so hard to conceive of if you liken the atoms in our bodies to galaxies.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Possibly we are in different heads,, lol
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: You know if any race survived the last big bang, they would be like gods to the rest of the universe.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: It seems it's possible there was a universe before ours:

In a paper published online on arXiv, researchers say that distinct cyclic patterns in the sky could be the last vestiges of black holes that survived the end of a previous universe.

"What we claim we're seeing is the final remnant after a black hole has evaporated away in the previous aeon," Roger Penrose, study coauthor and cocreator of the conformal cyclic cosmology theory, tells New Scientist.

[ https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/39463/20180816/scientists-find-remnants-of-a-universe-that-existed-before-this-one.htm ]
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: I have always believed that the universe is cyclic. That this one will keep expanding until it runs into the wave front of another older possibly dead one. The combined mass of two leading edges packed into another black hole of immense size enough to trigger the next explosion into a new universe.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Matter/energy is nether lost nor destroyed, just converts back and forth
(1st law of Thermodynamics)
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Personally I don't think there is a God, and if there is that created the whole universe, He wouldn't care a bit about the life on one backward planet.
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h0nd0 
h0nd0: he shows he does everyday.. thermodynamics wouldnt exist for us to explore unless we were capable of understanding them.. yet the bonds of behavior of many enlightenments need to be understood prior to him.. giving us an imformative approach to recieving what he wants to give .. beyond this universe..
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Guess I am not drinking the right kool aid.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: There may be any number of gods but I'm more than certain that there is no God. Spend some time with the claims of Exodus and the truth becomes clear. Those Hebrews were deceived by a conman.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Ghost,, you should read the Egyptian version of the exodus. It's a bit more rational and probable.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I wasn't aware there was one.
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h0nd0 
h0nd0: i think their still decyphering it
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Ghost,, it was found written on the tomb walls of mid level egyptians, a couple of years ago. Those that couldn't afford the big temples were bunched up in shared tombs out in the desert. On those walls is a complete Egyptian based point of view of the event.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: I've come to the conclusion that even Jesus was faked. There is no historical evidence he ever existed prior to 30 AD, then stories of visions around 60 AD, But by 90AD, all sorts of tales of Jesus.
There was a Koine Greek (from pre 300BC) legend of a Jesus that was the son of God and defended mankind from other Gods, this found its way into early Judea writings.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: I'm of the opinion that the Gospels are Roman fiction whipped up to give substance to Paul's teaching. When you write fiction for a hobby, as I do, you start to get a feel for when somebody is romancing.
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MJ59
MJ59: I haven't seen/heard any sign of a god at all so I'm going with....No
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: I always felt the fiction was in one church/congregation writing to another, each time exaggerating the good parts for the benefit of the followers. Given 90 years of legendary stories we have the numerous books of the bible.
When Constantine took power during the political upheaval of the Eastern Roman Empire, he took advantage of this religion of the masses. Ordered that an official bible be written and those stories/books that were NOT of use to the power of the state, were rejected (such as the gospel of Thomas) This way the state was the religion, no getting to heaven any other way.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Here's a story about Jesus that doesn't come from the Bible:

"But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city.
However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him.
Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come. This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost."

[ Josephus' Wars 6, 5, 3: ]
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Did Mark construct the Passo­ver narrative using Josephus' tale as a basis?
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Josephus to me wasn't much of a historian, he simply dug up and copied everything he found with out any investigation of its source.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Maybe he doesn't measure up to our standards but that doesn't discredit what he dug up.
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kittybobo34
kittybobo34: Ghost,, true, but so many seem to think because he wrote it, it was true. Just saying he had no standards historically.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Anyway, it doesn't matter if what he wrote was true or not. All that's important is that Mark could have used Jesus, the son of Ananus, as inspiration for the Gospel narrative.
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