Between a rock and a hole (Page 3)

lobsterchop
lobsterchop: LOL whim. BTW, that whole nonvirgin vs virgin thing you said is BS. I know you know that male vigins suck in bed. It's a common cliche that is even played-out in film today. It's probably the most embarrassing thing about being a guy. You probably don't know because you wouldnt give a male virgin a chance yourself. Which works against your argument.


In highschool, I remember all my friends holding their heads down after losing their virginity to girls that we all knew. Cause the girls would whisper about how weak/inexperienced they were. I too can testify to this shame. Mine was an embarrassingly short struggle that ended in an awkwardly silent, and sticky, mess. Perhaps because we run faster and lift heavier weights, we feel better than girls, but in bed we have to confront our weakness in the nude. This hurts our egos.


Here is where we see a truth about girls and guys. Guys will accept a girl with low or no experience while girls mostly do not. Girls miss out though because they have the chance to mold a guy with a clean slate. Instead, they reach for the used product guy and then complain later.



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I was here
I was here: Lambchop...how old are you?
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: Lambchop? who's that?

Just tell me if i'm right or not? It seems we are close in age anyway.
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I was here
I was here: Lambchop, you must be way younger then me.

Any good lover knows that pleasing each other requires skills that go beyond the bedroom and it doesn't matter if one is a virgin or not. Any good lover wants to know what their partner wants. Any good lovers knows enough to find out and is open to talking about what pleases each other. Any good lover doesn't "guess" or act the same with each partner they are with. Each relationship is unique and different. Each new partner, you are virgins to each other.
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: Still not sure who lambchop is. But according to our accounts, i'm a bit older than you so listen up little girl, I mean, kiddo.

"Each new partner, you are a virgins to each other," a very romantic idea. But in real practice most people want a partner, not a follower or someone they have to train. It is true that different people like different things, but dont confuse that with actual virginity.

I agree, learn what your partner enjoys. For example, I learned to give good head and that has worked well for all the girls I give head to. I'm no manwhore, i'm just saying that there are broad similarities between people. It's not like we're dealing with a new species of human for each new partner. It's obvious that I have much to teach you.

I feel most men go about pleasing women wrong. I wont go into detail and make this some xxx kinda room, but I feel more attention should be paid to the female. What do you think, Whim?
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Hyenablood
Hyenablood: ah yes, now I feel safe to join in this conversation again, bravo lobster, what you just said makes me wanna jump up and down and cheer.
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: I missed you hyena, we should chat sometime.
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fairgojustsaying
fairgojustsaying: Just be honest now better now than later and really if she is worth anything it will not matter and may work in your favour two fold, her experience may be what you need and usually a female if you are honest will be happy to show you the ropes.
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Falcon_Virtue
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ManBrain
ManBrain: my girl spent the night and i'm still a virgin!! win win... gives me a week to think about stuff. wish she felt that way fairgo. she doesnt tho.... we both said we dont like liars and bash liars but i was lying.. you said if honest and i wasnt honest so that wont work. see? i know! so confusing but girls are tricky. and idk if she'll be happy shoing me the ropes b/c she thinks i would be doing that to her. : \

i'm not a liar tho. i work and hold my own place.
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Hyenablood
Hyenablood: good to hear manbrain, hope it continues to work out in the postive for you !!!!
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kritz0
kritz0: LOL@Dane Savage. If you had any damn clue, you would get his name right. He does give a lot of good advice. I make it a point to read his advice column on a weekly basis and listen to his podcasts.

Ever heard of YouTube? Lol. You can find any "How-To-Do" videos about ....oral.

You obviously must watch porn, don't go for the hardcore for a teaching tool, but watching porn can help you learn some basics. As for find the gspot...fingering.. it is as simple as googling how to do it..and how to find it.

Really....It's in our nature to have sex, it isn't so difficult. Don't overthink it, that'll just end up you being way too nervous and making more mistakes than just letting things happen naturally.

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kritz0
kritz0: Don't get a damn hooker. That is the WORST advice I have ever heard.
That'll leave you with a meaningless first time. You've.obviously made it to your 20's without buying a hooker, why would you ruin your emotional sanity now that you have a girlfriend by going out and doing a hooker.

She doesn't need to know you lied, It's a guy thing..to boast about experience you do not have. I'm not condoning to lie about other things....but you've already stepped over that line.
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VirtueFalcon
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: LMAO, win win? things are pretty bad if you call that a win win. I call it a lose lose lose.

@ kritz0, We're not talking about hookers, we're talking about escorts. There IS a difference. I was just sharing the idea because I have tried them, and although they are stigmatized for doing a job society sees as taboo, they are normal people. If you ever spent the time with some of these girls, you would probably find that they are not what you thought. Many of these girls are just trying to get by, like you, but in another way.

In fact, sex is an area of high demand, like unhealthy food. These women, who have the courage to meet that demand in a SAFE and regulated setting should not be shamed by people (girls mostly) more fortunate than they.

I think society has shamed them because sex is mostly involved in some intimate relationship, but for these women, sex is not intimate. This is where the women can understand men more.
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ManBrain
ManBrain: lol lobster, i did take ur idea. i dont have the balls for hooker tho. i talked to the lady alittle and hung up on the lady. lol. she called back like wtf!! LOL. i'm just gonna let things happen like krist says. i think she is right. ur right about hooker, they are regular ppl it is sad. : (
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Wild__
Wild__: Dude, get a hooker! That way she will know you are not a virgin when you give her herpes!

You get laid before you get laid, and she will never know you lied to her. You cant go wrong, well, except for being stuck with herpes for the rest of your life.
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ManBrain
ManBrain: LOL @ wildman
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kritz0
kritz0: Are you stupid? I ran phones for two separate escort services in Calgary. Licensed to escort within Calgary limits. You must be stupid, cannot admit a spade is a damn spade when it hits you over the head or what?

Not once did I say they are not humans. Or lesser people for being hookers. I don't know how feminine you have to be to be able to twist words just so. Like you have shown over and over again in this thread.

You are an idiot if you think every single one of those encounters are completely void of.any physiological or emotional attachment. And I am definitely referring to both parties involved. If you are too stupid to realize it, your mind just hasn't matured to that point yet.....unfortunately for you and your stupid irrational opinions.

Anyone can partition emotions or hide behind a wall. Doesn't mean it does not actually affect them.... Do not reply with another stupid opinion. This is the last civil response from me you will receive.
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: Maybe you should reread my post. It's NOT an insult to you. I only said a few things to you. summarized like:

"hookers are different from escorts", "they might not be what you think," and, "they're trying to get by."

The rest are general statements about escorts/whores and society. Judging by the way you express yourself, you probably wouldn't understand that anyway. That's funny b/c you talk about stupid people and then carry on like one.

It's also funny to me that you mention maturity, and then express yourself like a child. lol, A civil response you say? You only make yourself seem stupid expressing yourself that way. I would like to argue though because you do have a point in your gibberish.

Manbrain's emotions should be reserved to his gf, so getting emotionally involved with an escort would be out of the question. I agree that attachment would be something to worry about, if he had went that route.

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kritz0
kritz0: There will always be an emotional attachment. Especially if it is his first.
Don't be absurd. Of course they are the same. Escorts are just usually licensed and it is usually their company that "pimp" them out.

Just because you have fucked an escort, doesn't automatically mean you understand them. Just because you say you can void your own self.of any emotion towards her, doesn't really mean that is the case.

It's their job, just as any other job out there. There is a certain standard code of conduct you must adhere to. If a hooker becomes emotional over each date...they are likely to make less money. Charging less and/or other implications.

Do you think most of those girls are clean? Do you.not understand why most escorts usually drown themselves into any array of substances? And no, they don't have to tell you any of that. I am definitely referring to escorts here grouped in with all hookers.

Their job is to be whatever their customer wants them to be. To adapt into whatever person their "date" wants them to be. You obviously are oblivious to this concept.
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lobsterchop
lobsterchop: No, I don't think that most of the girls are clean that work this way. I've never used a hooker/street walker, but I have heard of the bad stories.

Hookers may have to be whatever their date desires, and that makes them more dangerous/dirty/unsafe. Escort agencies have limits. The women can choose to accept a client or not. The girls are drug and blood tested at all the agencies I know of. In some places they're tested every 3 months. Pimps don't have to do any of those things. Isnt that better than the hooker standard?

In the USA we allow our hookers to be abused as long as they stay hidden, and when they reveal themselves, we arrest them. In more civilized nations, they have escort agencies that regulate the industry, protect the women, and make things safe. Despite those rules, do you really think it's fair to group escorts with hookers?
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kritz0
kritz0: Uhm. Escorts get arrested for solicitation of sex also....even if they have a license....
Are you brand fking new? Dates pay for *time* not for sex. Escorts can be arrested the same as hookers by cops. If they initiate the sexual activity or not.

How do you know 100% they follow those regulations. I've never heard of anything of the sort for regulations written in stone except for a few bawdy houses outside of Las Vegas city limits out in Nevada.

Are you really that stupid?

Again, I'll repeat myself, just because you FUCK them, doesn't mean you automatically know everything about them.


LOL!!!
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ManBrain
ManBrain: ding ding ding, no more fighting here please get a room u 2.
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