Canada is just better than the US - discuss (Page 4)

lavendar_star: Well I for one am proud of our NHS there was a reason why we brought it in and poor people work too, that are not all on welfare.

I Found The Exit: I think the USA has lots to learn, I think we all have things we can learn from each other. Unfortunately, the ppl that know what they are talking about don't seem to be in politics.

Corwin: What Harlett is suggesting is like what we have here in Canada more or less.... there are free-clinics everywhere, and government funded hospitals. But the reality is the same about taxation... the middle/upper-middle class flips the bill for everybody pretty much. The poor pay little taxes, and the rich have tax-shelters... the middle/upper-middle class are taxed to death in Canada.

I'd like to say that large corporations should pay more taxes... but that would be kicking our industries in the teeth... and they are supporting the entire country. Without big-businesses thriving we'd all be screwed.

I'm not exactly poor, but not quite middle-class... but to be honest, when I see a guy who makes $150,000 a year, with a 5,000 square foot luxury home, a 30' sailboat, a huge swimming pool, and a $100,000 Jaguar in his driveway parked right next to his Hummer... and then listen to him complain about how he pays too much taxes... I want to punch him in his stupid weasel face.

I Found The Exit: Here in the USA...we have 3 and 4 generations on welfare. Believe me...I understand the middle class mans anger.

harlett: if were speaking lets say back when that wild person was kid...... we all could understand how folks could slip through not having learned too read and write...............been no excuse for it for decades other than sheer refusal too be educated............

lavendar_star: We have the same thing in the UK @Whimsical. sad

harlett: none of us be complaining about taxes...if those who collected that bounty actually spent it to benefit us and the world at large but they don't...............they waste it........on what doesn't work...hasn't ever.will never....while making up excuses for ignoring what would........

I Found The Exit: It is sad. It is like the governments "want" us to be dependent on them...and the only one fighting them is the middle class.

Corwin: Canada has an exceptional education system, and in general, the average Canadian is very well educated. The problem is more about job-availability. We're a country where the average guy flipping burgers at McDonalds has at least one College or University degree. It's pretty dog-eat-dog in that respect. What we need are more people studying to be doctors... there's a shortage of those, and anyone with a medical degree would be set for life.

I Found The Exit: Corvin, are doctors there Government employees?

harlett: i flipped a switch the other day... when i heard that united states government sued a man for growing wheat in his back yard and won... we can't grow wheat for ourselves????? some one with sense explain that...

Corwin: Yes... doctors receive their salaries from the Government, I believe.... in a Hospital, they are paid by the Hospital, and the Government funds the Hospital.

I Found The Exit: Harlet, that is complicated. The government pays farmers here NOT to plant.

Corvin, I would say that is your answer then. Your government is holding you down too.

harlett: man could i easily turn into a radical......where's someone with a bottom less wallet so that they can buy me some land to get started..........

ohnonotthatguy: Corvin is correct but doctors getting payed by the government also have their on practices aka ""walking clinics""they charge the government for the services that are provided to the public.

I Found The Exit: Canada doesn't want more doctors. If they did...they would be out there scouting them. Encouraging ppl to become such.

Not that...that would matter. They encourage education here.

I have 2 degrees, I work in neither of them.

I also work with 2 girls that just graduated (teachers) and they have to leave the state to find a job. The average class size here is 35-40. We need teachers...

Corwin: Where I live I can grow any dang thing I want... but I'm out in the country and zoned residential/agricultural. But I know that even in the cities almost everybody has a vegi-garden... maybe the rules are different for wheat for some reason.

Corwin: @Whim - Actually, they really are stressing the need for more doctors in our education system... the problem is that people don't want to be doctors. Students complain that doctors don't make as much money here in Canada as they do in, say, America... and they're weary of the responsibility... one wrong move and you've got a malpractice suit on your hands... you lose your license to practice, and then what is your degree worth to you?... It'll get you the coveted "managerial" position at McDonalds.

I Found The Exit: The government here pays 2 farmers (either side of us) to not farm. They can't plant, they can even touch the land...not for 10 years. They get paid to NOT plant.

I Found The Exit: Here they are stressing the need for more teachers, yet they have to leave the state. They want more nurses but the nurses we have can't find work.

idk...I just don't believe government anymore...not at all.

harlett: ahhhhhhhhhh TINK......what the hay........they following let the land rest for seven then plant for seven....

I Found The Exit: I can't answer that Harlet, I can only say what we were told by our neighbors. I DO know this, we paid good money to rent that land (SO WE COULD PLANT) and the government came by and said..."look at what we will pay you to NOT touch the land"

It's all about the money.

Corwin: I wonder if it has to do with price-fixing? Supply and demand, and all that nonsense.

I Found The Exit: Of that I have no doubt.

harlett: Harry Reid stood on the senate floor and knowingly gossiped about Romy?? how ever name is spelled....knowing he can never be sued for slander or have any legal action taken against him while lying on the senate floor... that law has riled me...and i no longer can stand too hear any senator .......