Always Tip your Waitress / Waiter !!!! (Page 4)

drywitty
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ColonelKusanagi
ColonelKusanagi: i wonder what i said that made the mods so mad. atheists tip, food for thought.
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duncan124
duncan124:
Yeah someone is pushing a point of view about money when they have little to go on.

Look at this " The guy is a huge arsehole.

"...but tips are illegal in the EU! O-Cameraman."

I tip all the time. I tip for my haircut. I tip for my food. I tip for my pizza delivery. Duncan. seriously, do you ever leave the house? "

In Portugal people were arrested and charged for trying to tip in the waiters. The Portugese have closed down the other wire calling it ' Evil '.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: That is insane, Duncan. Tips are most certainly not illegal in Europe.

Show us. Show us the law.
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drywitty
drywitty: Yes, let's test that hypothesis. Everyone, please send all you would tip in a year directly to me, and one day when I visit Europe, I shall, in the interest of finding this answer, take your money with me and tip away and see what happens. Send extra in case I need bail money.

In the meantime, I shall form a preliminary theory based on what some of the countless Wireclubbers who actually ARE in Europe say about tipping something other than cows.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Tippers jail in Europe.
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duncan124
duncan124:
In Portugal it has been illegal for several years.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Duncan. Show me the proof. Show me the law.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Tipping

Tipping in Portugal is just as important as in other parts of the world.

All waiting staff, attendants and clerks earn a wage, but wages are low and many do rely on tips to supplement their income. In addition, many, many such workers rely on social security out of season, so they have to work very long hours during the summer.

A service charge or serviço is NOT usually added to hotel and restaurant bills in Portugal. However, it is customary to tip an additional 10 % if the service warrants.

The bill at the restaurant only charges for what you eat; it is customary to leave a tip 10% + (the amount depending on the quality of the service you receive ).

In hotels, tip €1-2 for bellhops who carry your luggage up to the room.

You may also add €1 per day for the maid who provides extra service - such as bringing breakfast to the room. (You may also consider leaving them your holiday toiletries. It's less weight for you to carry, makes more room in your luggage for souvenirs and the maids are always very grateful.)

Taxi drivers can be tipped by any amount you wish, although some people round the fare up to the nearest five euro (ie. your fare comes to 7 euro, you may wish to pay the driver 10 euro). This is particularly true in Lisboa, the capital. Some people add 10% of the fare as the tip.

In the North, tipping of taxi drivers is less common or generous-- in Braga, a 10% tip is considered generous unless the driver has helped carry bags, etc., and in some restaurants and cafés, you may find the owner chasing you down the street to return change he thinks you've inadvertently left on the table!

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g189100-s606/Portugal:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html
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ColonelKusanagi
ColonelKusanagi: i can't say for sure that it is law but in many European countries it is disrespectful to tip. they are properly paid in those ones i hope. when i went to a Dominican resort the staff looked as if i were trying to shoot their children when i tried to tip so I've seen the custom in action. still when not in rome i do tip and if you can't afford to, you can't afford to eat out. it's really that simple.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

We all know that citizens and countries around the world are not the same. Some places have flush toilets and some you poop in a hole....if you are lucky. In some parts of the world women have their children in hospitals and take months off from work and some women have their children out in the fields and they are back to work the same day. The world is not the same.

In the US, tipping is different depending on the service and cost of the service. When I take my car in for repair, go to the grocery store, or go to a movie theater I do not tip nor do they expect a tip. When I go to a fast food restaurant, tipping is not 'expected' and I do not tip. However, when I do go to a 'sit down restaurant', I do tip. I tip at least 20 % or more depending on the service and quality of food.

However, some folks do tip differently. Some tip per person no matter what the total of the bill is. Some tip 10%, some tip 15% or more. If I go for a real expensive meal ($500) for two, the tip at 15% is $75 and I would round it up to $100 if the service was spotless. If I go out by myself for breakfast and it is $10, I would lease at least $3 (30%).

At a hotel, even a 5 Star, I take my own bags to my room.

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duncan124
duncan124:
The point that makes this free thread interesting is that to use up to date software you have to have a computer that could also run a chat room.

Clearly Corvin had other ideas when he started it.
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drywitty
drywitty: Y'all just shut up and send me all your money. I promise not hold it against u if you call it a tip.
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Corwin
Corwin: Does anybody have any CLUE what Duncan's last remark means??
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drywitty
drywitty: It means send me your money, that's what it means. Now. Right now.
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OCD_OCD
OCD_OCD: Duncan's brain was abducted by aliens.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Drywit, I would send you cash but....what exactly is the service you are rendering? Would Wirebucks suffice?

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drywitty
drywitty: david, we can discuss particulars.
Wirebucks or credits or tokens are all acceptable
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Corwin
Corwin: What about Bitcoins?
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unicorn1
unicorn1: I live in EU. TIpping is, and always has been legal in my lifetime. I work in the service industry.
What I don't really understand though is how the waitresses your talking about get paid less then minimum wage. Here minimum wage = the lowest wage you're legally allowed pay someone........how can anyone therefore be paid less to begin with?
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Corwin
Corwin: Here in Canada it's called "Server's Wage". Waitresses and bartenders have a lower minimum wage, based on the assumption that they will receive roughly 15% to 20% in tips. So it's technically not "lower than minimum wage", it's just a different minimum wage.

The system works well enough... if a waitress is working at a fancy place with expensive menu items, they can easily make over 200% more from tips than the wage the restaurant pays them.
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unicorn1
unicorn1: Ahh right, got it. Thanks for explaining
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ColonelKusanagi
ColonelKusanagi: my mother worked as a waitress before it was required to pay them anything but tips and she was so likable (still is) that she made so much in tips the other, less cordial waiters/waitresses got angry and jealous so they came up with the racket of pooling tips and dividing them evenly. this is very common now so it's that important to tip a reasonable amount even tho they make that piddly amount hourly.
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Corwin
Corwin: Tip pooling?? That sounds so wrong.. It contradicts the whole point of why we have that system in the first place. The less cordial servers have no right to share your mother's tips... instead, they should have been working on their attitude.

Is pooling tips even legal? How can an establishment legally ask you to hand over money that you earned yourself?
But now that this has been brought to my attention, I will ask next time I eat out if that is what is going on at that establishment... and if it is, I will walk right out and eat somewhere else.
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ColonelKusanagi
ColonelKusanagi: it's a common practice in nj and that was in the 50s so i can only guess that it spread like aids but faster with more time to do so. idk if it's as common elsewhere
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