Boston Bombers are Idiots

Hyenablood: the attacks in boston were horrible and I do feel for all of the victims.
However I am here to say - WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS !!
Really, there's talk that these two brothers went off and were trained with al-Qida, maybe the terrorist organization told them to blow themselves up. Whatever reason they did not and only AFTER their faces had been idenified and spattered all over the world, did they think ' gee, maybe we should have left the area '
The idiots go and ROB A CONVIENCE STORE and naturally the cops and FBI jump on them.
STUPID, how stupid can two guys be ? if I had planning to blow up people, I'd have a better plan in place. Like maybe saving up my money for years ahead and making a plan to LEAVE immediatly after the attack. Jump on a plane, go to europe and high-tail it into hidding by staying low for a few months or even years.

The two brother idiots both deserve to die, which now I hear, they are....good.

Succinct Verbosity: FYI they have no connection to Al Qaeda (or, at least confirmation of it).

As for the real reason they are stupid, as Chechens they have attacked somebody is allied to their cause for independence from Russia. I noted Putin wasted no time in calling Obama, and he -unlike Obama and the Americans- can be openly barbaric. These two imbeciles doomed an entire nation that has suffered enough.

Hyenablood: yes you are right about that, now people will treat all chechnyans and other russians as criminals. Terrorists do not think about the negative backlash that their attack will have, all they can see is their false victory. That by blowing up a bunch of innocent people, that somehow, america, or another nation, will just give em whatever they want.

billy_piper: obamanators speech was pretty good tho.

harlett anathema: ummmm....they didn't actually rob the 7-11...someone else was robbing the 7-11,while the brothers were there too hijack a car......

harlett anathema: I'm lousy at math because i am too lazy too concentrate..but i can put 1 & 1 together..

if...you were tuning into any of the 24/7 news stations you would have seen the same video's playing over & over & over...every single video they repeated showed the brothers in motions...at 1 point the 19 year old asked his elder if he was sure he wanted too go through with it...while outside in front of the lord & taylor's....which has a twist too it.. as it turns out the mother shop lifted 1600 dollars worth of clothing from lord & taylor's

some cultures do not let go of their ways...and raise their's too obey submit too the will of their elders...Americans have too Amercianize....meaning set their young free,from parenting,and instead make their way,find their place among the masses,on their own..

harlett anathema: does any Islamic nation have civil laws that aren't religion mandated.. i don't think so... The laws they enforce on their faithful are terrorizing in of them them self...A woman has too LIVE under dire threats and submission for all of her day's while she puts up with men who have no life...and means too support them self....and their children...i'm pretty darn certain,that no can show me.. a common everyday Muslim Man living well in his birth nation... thriving on opportunities his nation has made available too him too take advantage of...

so when a Muslim curses me and my thoughts, that have him thriving in his home land.. so be it.....i can't fathom having said back at in retort keep your violence and bitterness too yourself,,because that mean your taking out your dire and depth less desperations out on my gender sister's and her children....You can't do for after having fathered....

leave it too the mind of a man too have come with the lie and fatal deception,too believe he be rewarded with 700 blessed virgins for murdering....which brings too ..

has any of the MULLAH's ever raised their own hands in that blood lusting warefare.. or have they just opened their mouths and insist that their young stain their hands...


i'd be fore ever after banned form WIRE if i ever spoke out loud the words i have used if any preacher of GOD tired too direct me into spilling blood.......in GOD's name...I think Muslims ought too up lynch those _____________________....themselves ..for it....

damn.. i've gone and became a Americanized American radical humanitarian.. of live let live....enjoy and thrive in life & living...

lori100: don't buy what the govt is telling you.....there is more to the story .....------------beforeitsnews-------------------FBI Admits Relationship With Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev-------------Late Friday, the FBI finally admitted that it had interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older Boston Marathon bombing suspect who was killed by police early Friday morning. The FBI reversed itself after the Tsarnaevs’ mother, Zubeidat, told Russia Today that her son had been monitored by the FBI on Skype, and actually spoke with him “every step of the way.” She said, “They used to come [to our] home, they used to talk to me … they were telling me that he was really an extremist leader and that they were afraid of him. They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremist sites… they were controlling him, they were controlling his every step…and now they say that this is a terrorist act!”



Since 9/11, the FBI has stepped up its reliance on sting operations to catch potential terrorists before they strike. But in the process, says journalist Trevor Aaronson, the agency has ended up “hatching and financing more terrorist plots in the United States than any other group. Is this whole thing an FBI plot? A false flag event. The FBI is currently leading the investigation in Watertown too.. Food for thought. -------------------A false flag, which was first a trick by 18th-century naval captains who'd hoist flags of other nations when approaching an enemy vessel, now is used to describe an attempt to hide the identity of the person or group responsible for an operation.

lori100: naturalnews------------New York Times openly admits domestic terror plots masterminded by the FBI--------------
(NaturalNews) If it seems as though the FBI is making a large number of terror busts these days, maybe it's because the agency itself is at least partly responsible for hatching the plots. That has some political observers wondering if the FBI's strategies are making the best use of the nation's limited counterterrorist resources.

In recent months, FBI agents have arrested suspects who were planning a range of terrorist attacks, from shooting Stinger missiles at military aircraft to driving vanloads of explosives into crowded events. But these amazing cases might not have ever been made if the FBI itself wasn't themselves planning the attacks.

A number of these cases were profiled recently in a New York Times op-ed column, which noted that the so-called plots were devised by an agency that seems to be operating as if the nation is so devoid of legitimate threats that it needs to manufacture some in order to seem relevant.

Withstanding legal scrutiny, but still questionable

Consider the case of Oregon college student Mohamed Osman Mohamud. He thought about using a car bomb to attack a well-attended, festive Christmas tree-lighting ceremony in Portland. The FBI gave him a van packed with inert explosives consisting of some real, but inactive, detonators and six 55-gallon drums, along with a gallon of diesel fuel. An FBI agent even drove the van. When Mohamud called the cell phone number that was supposed to trigger the explosion, nothing explosive happened, except that he got arrested.

Was Mohamud seriously considering such an attack prior to the FBI involvement? If so, could he have put it together by himself? Was he working with someone else the FBI doesn't know about who is more of a legitimate threat?

It's hard to say. Obviously Mohamud was at least having bad thoughts, and that's disconcerting in and of itself (though not criminal). But if the FBI had not manufactured an attack, would he have gone through with anything?

Mohamud's case is far from the only one manufactured by the FBI, and it is certainly not the only one that has held up in court. In fact, such operations are not only legal but they are a common counterterrorism tactic employed by the agency in the post-9/11 world. Terror defendants most often try to claim entrapment, but they also most often lose because the law says as long as they showed at least some intent to commit a terrorist act, even if tempted to do so by undercover agents, they are guilty.

Using even the weak-minded to make a case

"Many times," says Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman, "suspects are warned about the seriousness of their plots and given opportunities to back out." But, the Times report indicates recorded conversations show that the warning is not always given, and that in some cases suspects are even encouraged to continue.

Inventing such cases isn't as easy as, say, manufacturing a sting operation where an alleged drug dealer or arms trafficker sells to an undercover agent. That's because those kinds of crimes occur regularly in the United States.
But David Raskin, a former federal prosecutor told the Times, "There isn't a business of terrorism in the United States, thank God."

"You're not going to be able to go to a street corner and find somebody who's already blown something up," he said. "So the goal is to find someone who isn't engaged in terrorism yet but is looking for a real terrorist who could provide them with an opportunity."

You can sometimes get the impression that maybe the FBI is operating off of some sort of counterterrorism quota. Consider one of the most recent cases of thwarting a planned attack:

Of five so-called anarchists who were arrested for ostensibly planning to destroy a bridge in Ohio in late April, three of them had documented mental health issues. One was even talked out of committing suicide in February, right before he was enticed to join in the plot by an FBI informant.

lori100: businessinsider----------Mother Of Boston Bombing Suspects Says FBI Was In Contact With Her Son------------------
Zubeidat K. Tsarnaeva, the mother of Boston bombing suspects Dzhokar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, suggested Friday that the FBI had been surveilling her older son for several years prior to Monday's attack.

In an interview with Russia Today Friday, Tsarnaeva said that Tamerlan Tsarnaev got involved in "religious politics" five years ago, and that the FBI had previously contacted her about her son's activities.

"He was controlled by the FBI, like for three, five years," she said. "They knew what my son was doing, they knew what actions and what sites on the Internet he was going [to], they used to come...and talk to me...they were telling me that he was really a serious leader and they were afraid of him."

"How could this happen?...They were controlling every step of him, and they are telling today that this is a terrorist attack," she added.

A spokesperson for the FBI told Business Insider Friday that the agency would be putting out a statement "shortly" regarding its previous contact with either of the Tsarnaev suspects. The spokesperson would not confirm or deny that the agency had had any previous contact.

Tsarnaeva doubled down on her statements later in the interview, insisting that her sons were innocent, and had been "set up" by the FBI:

"FBI, they were scared of my oldest son, they always told me that he's a leader...they are afraid of him because, you know, he is a leader, he talks about Islam a lot."

"They were talking to my son, and they called me officially and they told me that my son is an excellent boy and they have no problem with him," she added. "At the same time, they were telling me that...he is getting information on really extremists...sites, so they were very, very afraid of him. So that's why I think that this is a setup."

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chronology: You know I cannot guess who is giving Lori the thumbs up on her Posts here. If he ever succeeds in wooing her to the alter we must invited to the occasion. A Guy one time was telling me how he travelled to LA just for a dinner with a TV Star. Alas nothing glamorous, it was one of those 500 or so fans invited to a dinner where the Star of the Show sits at the head of the table.

We must have an invite if a wedding is planned. We can call in at a fancy dress and go as characters from unreal-world of conspiracy.

No offence Lori dear, I say all this in good humour and hope you take it as such. The Old workshop where James Dean set off on his ill fated last drive is now a LA reception venue, perhaps the reception can be held there.

lori100: nice .........what about the FBI's long history of setting up patsies to committ terror plots, arming them, assisting them, then eventually arresting them......?.........the evidence is blatant.............as I have pointed out on the posts too, the 'drill' before the explosions---London 7/7, 9 11, the Texas fertilizer , and the Boston bombings----------all had the 'drill' the same day or a couple of days before the attacks.......what are the odds.......??????

lori100: just a head's up--------------yet another terrorist drill.....this time on nuclear site-------next 'terrorist attack' planned......?--------------First terror drill at U.S. nuclear plant a success: officials-----------HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania (Reuters) - The first simulated test of a terrorist attack on a nuclear power plant was a success, federal officials said on Friday of the event that was coincidentally scheduled a day after the Boston Marathon bombing on Monday.

The test's location at Three Mile Island outside Harrisburg, Pennsylvania - the site of the worst commercial nuclear accident in U.S. history - had no special significance, according to state and federal officials.

The test on Tuesday simulated an attack by a group of eight armed men, according to Peter Herrick Jr., spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

In November 2011, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission required that the country's 65 nuclear power plants test their preparedness for terrorist incidents every two years.

The next 16 months were spent planning the challenge, and the simulation was put to the test for the first time on Tuesday at Three Mile Island, said Steve Barr, a preparedness inspector with the commission.

Authorities said every challenge presented to the plant's personnel was met, but when asked for specific examples they declined to provide details. Both Herrick and Barr said the plant was rated on each step it took to maintain safety and security and it consistently met the successful standard of "adequate."

chronology: What 'patsies' Lori? Lee Oswald? The FBI's contact with Lee Oswald had nothing to do with politics, it was his wife's residency status, the FBI were recommending having her deported. At a visit to the Russian Embassy Lee seethed that the FBI were 'going behind his back and working out a deal with Marina which would exclude him from contact with her'. You see Lori, Lee seems to have no idea that the FBI has the right to interview who it wills, with or without Lee Oswald's permission, and without his agreement to any residency agreement they strike up with marina.

Tim MCveigh ? Tim was almost a 'stalker' of FBI Officers, he hung around WAKO while the twisted and depraved Koresh taunted the ATF Officers with incoherent babble from the Bible, and drooled over killing the ATF men sent to arrest him. The FBI never 'set up' Tim, he was lost in a fantasy world of Turner Diaries role playing. A fantasy that eventually took hold of him with tragic results for the people of Oklahoma. Or how about John Hinkly? Hinkly was described as a bum and a drifter, in fact, the FBI would have had a job on their hands keeping Hinkly away from President Reagan given that Hinkly was actually very well healed indeed.

The two maniacs with unpronounceable Russian names have yet to be investigated, but already you seem to know their script, their motives so to speak.

lori100: You know I have no doubt Oswald was set up,the others I don't know enough about---very possible, Hinckley was mentally ill, an easy target for a patsy, the Hinckley family was good friends with the Bush family-----what a coincidence .....(on my illum lorry thread months ago) , Hinckley was probably a mind controlled trained assassin---they often target the mentally ill...........do research on my posts.....tell me it's not obvious.....

chronology: Lori. What do you mean by 'set up'? do you mean this as in 'Manchurian Candidate'? or do you mean other people committed the crime?

If you mean 'Manchurian Candidate' then every convicted murderer in the U.S.A. could use such a story in their defence, there is not a single convicted murderer who could not. Or if you mean 'someone els did the job', then who was the someone els? there is not a scrap of evidence supporting other shooters or persons in the TSBD at the time of the shooting, and no evidence at all supporting shots coming from anywhere els.

The reaction of JFKs head to the impact of the shot fired by Lee has already been indisputably explained by Ballistics experts who demonstrate the 'whiplash effect', and the 'driver shooter theory' is not taken seriously by anyone other than the crazed followers of Bill Cooper.

Lori, am not trying to hurt your feelings, just pointing out you have no argument at all about Oswald.

billy_piper: why is it so difficult to comprehend that there are real radical murderous mad muslims? im not saying theyre exclusivly to blame for everything as that would be silly much like thinking your gov is to blame for every bomb or industrial accident.

lori100: it has been the goal all along......give up your rights.....it's for your own protection---------------Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will ‘Have to Change’ After Boston Bombing
politicker.com
In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday the country’s interpretation of the Constitution will “have to change” to allow for greater security to stave off future attacks. “The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry

lori100: Don't try thinking for yourself.........the govt will tell you what to believe.........obey the propaganda machine.......------------------


Obama: Dont Make up Your Mind on Boston Until we Give you the Official Story
intellihub.com
JG Vibes | In a speech over the weekend Obama said that People should not think independently about the Boston terror attacks, but rather wait until the government comes forward with their official version of evidence.

lori100: very insightful anonymous article on the Boston Bombing-------------That which is served by this action is that it has created yet again another level of fear and angst in the American people. As David Icke has often pointed out when events of this nature occur, those who have truly planned it have an ulterior motive. In this case the ulterior motive is to escalate the sense of fear and terror in the American people so that they can be even more easily controlled. That a problem occurred, that the people demand action, demand a result, and a solution was then offered up. The solution in this case is the high military and police activity surrounding this event.

That when one views the news reports, it is clear that in the control of the populace that a police state was in effect. The control of over four million people was one that also was an experiment in seeing if the masses could be controlled, if they would accept such a heavy duty response, one that denied them personal liberties and freedoms.

This was satisfactorily answered for those behind this Act, and they have taken one step forward in establishing a police state. They have escalated the level of fear in the populace and now the populace is about to ask for further sanctions to be passed, certain controls to be brought forward that will prevent such terrorists from doing such a thing again.

Of course, this is an illusion for there will always be those who will commit such atrocities whether planned by certain authorities or on an individual level, but what is sought here, what was manufactured here was a new level of police action that would be now considered, and will now be considered the new norm.

This black and white action, the perpetration of this atrocity by alleged inland/homeland terrorists is also designed to create the demand for greater control of inland/homeland individuals who could be called “terrorists” but who would this include? It would include every citizen: man, woman and child in the United States, for the blanket response - the actions of the authorities did not differentiate terrorist from citizen, for the citizens themselves were very much treated as a criminal element, possible assailants to the safety of one and all.

Therefore the response did need to be one that treated all as potential terrorists in order to catch the ones who were alleged to have caused this heinous crime, this assault on the American people.

It is not only the people in Boston itself who have been affected, but all Americans from coast to coast who are now of an impression that they are under attack by outside forces and inside forces. That they would be more willing to accept sanctions that may be presented or actions taken by a government to “ensure their safety” than they would have been before this event.

Hyenablood: I wonder how many more attacks it will take before america will get more serious about the safety of it's citizens ?

Geoff: Just playing the devil's advocate here for a moment - when you compare the number of people shot by their fellow citizens in America each and every day, and compare that to terrorism - the sense of perspective seems to be highly skewed.

Hyenablood: yes you are right geoff. It's so sad that america cannot let go of it's facination with violence and silly second ammenmen rights to 'have as many guns at all cost'

lori100: yep....silly rights to protect you from the govt.......who needs that......? ......first the FBI involvement ...........now the CIA connection...........still believe the govt propaganda......?...--------------------------------beforeitsnews----------------Boston Bombers Uncle On Feds Payroll, Tied To CIA---------------An investigative report from Daniel Hopsicker reveals murky dealings that indicate a connection between Boston Bomber’s Uncle Ruslan Tsanir and the CIA.

The report reveals that the bomber’s Uncle, made famous for his outspoken condemnation of his nephew’s which aired repeatedly on international news networks, is a well-connected oil executive who at one point worked for a Halliburton shell company used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kasakh State which is not involved in an investigation for laundering $6 billion.

Tsanir’s company was well known as being on the CIA’s payroll for reporting intelligence out of the country and further raising eyebrows is the fact the Tsnanir was also receiving money directly from USAID, a U.S. taxpayer foreign aid fund notoriously known for funding global CIA black operations which operate under the flag of various humanitarian and pro-democracy operations.

Tsanir’s connections became international news during a Swiss investigation in 2011 when his name popped up as one of several executives in a ring of offshore oil companies involved in money laundering for “international corruption”.

As Daniel notes:

Was Boston Bombers ‘Uncle Ruslan’ with the CIA?

The uncle of the two men who set off bombs at the Boston Marathon, who struck the only grace note in an otherwise horrific week, worked as a “consultant” for the Agency for International Development (USAID) a U.S. Government Agency often used for cover by agents of the CIA, in the former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan during the “Wild West” days of the early 1990’s, when anything that wasn’t nailed down in that country was up for grabs.

[…]

Tsarni, a well-connected oil executive, is currently involved in an international criminal investigation into a Kazakh billionaire banker-turned-fugitive alleged to have absconded with $6 billion from Kazakhstan’s BTA Bank.

[…]

But the biggest red flag, the one pertinent to murder in Boston, was Oligarch Kukibayev’s use of money laundered through a network of offshore companies […] from which Kazakhstan claims Ablyazov embezzled a very cool $6 billion dollars. -------------------------------------------And this is where “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni comes in.

The purchase of the Prince’s estate was put together, according to prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption,” reported The London Telegraph.

Tsarni, called “a US lawyer who has had dealings in Kazakh business affairs,” by the Sunday Times, clearly appears to be a member of that network.

The Sunday Times reported, “A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals intended to disguise money laundering.”

“Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company, which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state.”
------------------------The “western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.

Big Sky, which used to be known as China Energy Ventures Corp, is a now-bankrupt US oil company run by S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu, a long-time executive of Halliburton, which had oil leases in Kakakhstan’s Caspian Basin.

Tsarni was Big Sky’s Corporate Secretary and Vice President for Business Development. He joined Big Sky in 2005.

[…]

“From 1994 to 1996, Mr. Tsarni served as a consultant contracted by USAID for projects aimed to develop securities markets in Central Asia, where he trained corporate governance and corporate finance principals in state and private companies.”

[…]

“Nelson, Big Sky, Ablyazov, Kulibayev and the rest were all on my watch list for intelligence connections and pay-offs of various kinds at Platts,”