Support Ukraine in its fight for European Union! (Page 7)

Oksunny: Yes, it was elected democratically in 2012. And according to the Constitution ,the Government is formed by the representatives of the Parliament. In a month we are going to have a new President and then new elections to the Parliament.

Slaughterin: Wrong. The parliament structure has changed and the interim government isn't the representatives of the Ukraine people.

Oksunny: No, it was not changed. All the representatives were elected in 2012. The structure will be only changed after new elections.

Slaughterin: Sunny all the representatives are not there.

Oksunny: But after Yanuk's running -away, they began to vote as they like

Slaughterin: After the ousting (proper term, not 'running away' ) of Yanukovich there was a sacking of his main ministers

Oksunny: there are 450 representatives, to agree the laws you need 226 voices. There are more than 360 representatives working in the parliament now.

Oksunny: You need 300 voices to change the Constitution and 226 to elect a prime-minister

Oksunny: May I ask you an off topic question?

Slaughterin: Main points:
1. The parliament is not made of the same members as it was after the general election.
2. The interim 'government' does not represent the people of Ukraine.

Slaughterin:
No, you may not.

Oksunny: Some members ran away: Yanukovich's sons and his closest friends. But it's enough voices without them to make laws.

Slaughterin:
Some ran away (and perhaps with good reason for hostility), some were dismantled directly by the 'new leaders'. There were voices but those weren't the ones of the Ukraine people, that's my point. The interim 'government' should make no major decisions at this time.

Oksunny: And one more thing for you to understand - Yanukovich isn't scared of new government, he is scared of people's anger, because our army refused to continue to kill the people, so he has no support in his country. He simply won't be able to live in Kiev anymore.

davidk14: .

It's a pretty sad day when we see people support Putin and his thugs especially after Putin invades a sovereign country and murders its people. Putin needs to stay in his country and mind his own business.

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LiptonCambell: Haha we're no more in support of Putin by disagreeing with you than you are in support of Obama for disagreeing with us lol....

LiptonCambell: I am against Sunny for one simple reason- she's isn't honest, and is pushing propaganda. Has nothing to do with Putin, and everything to do with that fact that she's manipulative

Slaughterin: The irony just gets better with Davidk14.

davidk14: .

It is very unfortunate for you two. You seem to come up with thoughts and explanations that are not based in fact. Or, should I be more direct, you have no sources or research to fall back on except what....innuendo's on what you 'think' ? Pleez.

For example, Slaughterin said:

1. The parliament is not made of the same members as it was after the general election.
2. The interim 'government' does not represent the people of Ukraine.

David responds:

Where did you come with this? Sources?

Pleez....sources. And no RT or Iranian sources. They have proven not to reliable sources whatsoever.

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Slaughterin:
1. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/ukraine-crisis-interim-president-turchynov-yanukovych-tymoshenko
1. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/23/us-ukraine-crisis-rout-idUSBREA1M0KG20140223

2. For a government to represent the people, it has to be democratically elected by the people. This interim government was not. Do you need to be spoon fed facts to show you this or is it safe to conclude that fox news has reported that much to you.

Even Sunny later admitted that the members are not the same. Don't waste my time. Step out of your fox news bubble for a second.

Eagster: "Putin needs to stay in his country and mind his own business" Eagster responds: So does America and IsraHell, yet you have their flags as your profile picture. The biggest imperialist on Earth is The West (Which includes the EU of course) so Ukraine will be owned by someone other than Ukrainians either way.

LiptonCambell:

davidk14: .

From the site you posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/23/ukraine-crisis-interim-president-turchynov-yanukovych-tymoshenko

".....On Friday, three EU foreign ministers met Yanukovych and opposition leaders, and agreed to presidential elections by the end of 2014. Within hours parliament began passing a series of resolutions, stripping Yanukovych of his powers, initiating impeachment proceedings and setting elections for 25 May."


From the second site you posted:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/23/us-ukraine-crisis-rout-idUSBREA1M0KG20140223

"...But with defections from his [Yanukovich] Party of the Regions now swelling opposition ranks in parliament, opposition deputies found no difficulty in parliament in pushing through decisions that took to pieces the political house he had built."


Don't you read the entire article? Why not try to read both articles you posted and come back here and say what you have been saying. You probably would call Patrick Henry or George Washington....troublemakers. We call them patriots.



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Slaughterin:
Ah looks like I have to take the spoon out and feed the Davidk.

My statement:
1. The parliament is not made of the same members as it was after the general election.

Your statement:
"You seem to come up with thoughts and explanations that are not based in fact."

My facts from the two websites showed that some members who were elected into the parliament were no longer there hence the statement I made:

[1] Article entitled: "Ukraine MPs appoint interim president as Yanukovych allies dismissed"

Excerpt from the article in line with the statement:

While an interim prime minister is yet to be appointed, MPs meeting in the emergency session set about dismantling Yanukovych's power structure."

"His foreign minister, Leonid Kozhara, who defended Yanukovych's swerve away from the European Union in the face of an outcry in the west, was one of the first to go, followed by education minister Dmitry Tabachnik"


[2]Article entitled: Ukraine's new rulers dismantle Yanukovich power structure

Excerpt from this article in line with my statement:

"- Ukraine's new rulers, just 24 hours after ousting President Viktor Yanukovich, began speedily to unstitch his power structure on Sunday, appointing a provisional leader to replace him and sacking his key ministers."

Davidk, this was just an example, the fact is:

The parliament is not made of the same members as it was after the general election.

Now is this simple enough for you?
I don't give a shit who you call patriots or troublemakers.

Slaughterin:
It is not a state secret or a conspiracy theory that the parliament in the Ukraine is not made of the same members as it was after the general election.