The new wireclub gaming rule protest.

CerealKing
CerealKing: Many people that play poker/bingo/blackjack/slots know now that you can't send credits/chips/cards without being a wireclub gold member. There is only one way to be a wireclub gold member now and that is through buying it with real money. So when your membership expires (if you have one) the only way to renew it is paying with real cash.

I understand that wireclub has to make money to survive, and I am well aware of that, and I am also aware that this is possibly done because of the people sending chips to other multiple accounts and abusing the system.

I think the best way to solve this is deleting all alt. accounts that people have and any new accounts can't receive chips for at least a month.

I mentioned the new rule in poker a while ago and 15 minutes later people are still talking about it.

So Rod and everyone else, please listen to the people on this one. No one likes this new rule. We were somehow able to put up with the 5 credit thing, which I despised as well. I'm only even writing this because I care about wireclub and I want it to be successful, and I fear that this will only cause wireclub to lose members.

But enough of my personal opinions, if you agree/disagree or just want to talk about it, post your opinions below and let Rod and everyone know why you either agree or disagree with the new rule. thanks
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Oo MaK oO
Oo MaK oO: I agree.. I don't have Paypal..lol
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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: loll and thr is no consideration of buying in past now u got to prove again ur self by buying the credits... hahaha seems like admin is broke
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RUBYRUBY (Wireclub Moderator)
RUBY: Not a matter of being broke
Admin doesn't need that
it's a matter of people abusing the system
we tried many ways so wanna try this as well
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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: ruby madam with all respect its a technology world and i m sure thr r other ways too to stop system abusing i m here from more thn 5 years now i have lot of friends here and i m a friend of lot of ppl now i have to spend at least $20 to share anything with them and same with them where do the money goes to admin nooo?? trying this way is a simple money making thought now every user got to spend $20 we cant even use our credits to buy gold membership which are bought from the real money and they r useless .....
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Owen
Owen: Unfortunately it may sound like a simple thing, but the fact is, it's not.

We do our best to keep people using multiple accounts away, but it's not always so easy to tell that someone is indeed using a second (or more) account.

Do you know how much it costs per month to get professional proxy detection (for instance?) - I can tell you it's in the thousands.

We have already tried lenient ways of trying to deal with the issue, but the fact is it hasn't worked. Thus we are trying something else fashioned in a way which makes it almost impossible to abuse by people in a manner which makes it fair to not only Wireclub, but the users investing in the service.
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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: Owen come on sir its been 5 years here have seen lot of change some were ok some where not but those were affordable but upgrading it every month $20 is kind of a fees now using wire... and if anyone is trying to tell me its not about making money so i would like to tell dont doubt on my intelligence please ... thr r sever bigger social network sites dupe ids and accounts are everywhere we all are aware of that fact... i m not getting the point where your systems are getting abused and u cant stop it and you come up with the idea where you involve real money of ppl to make it secure? let me know who is buying that... and again sir with all respect i dont know how much it costs per month to get professional proxy detection but i know how to make money thru a social website u can always get the advertisements on your site of other companies and can charge them per click per sale u can promote thr products you have users here so atleast if your user spend some money here they get something real from those companies .... changes are good owen sir but they should be in a direction
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Owen
Owen: Maybe Admin can design a more permanent solution for the game players, such as a one-time fee which allows everyone who likes using games the option to send their tickets/cards from their account permanently.

Say the option of buying wireclub gold (if you wanted it), or simply the option of buying a token which allows you to send your cards without fee for $10 or so.

Admin should have a read of this convo sooner or later to leave their input.
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Owen
Owen: Oh, regarding ads; we love an ad-free site. Besides the ones you may get in chat rooms, wireclub has always avoided using ads as much as possible.
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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: Aaah i see that owen sir even u dont agree with this thing here you talk about maybe they will design something as a permanent solution... come on sir i understand you will reply to me with all those things i know because you are a mod and i m a user but u know the deal right...
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Owen
Owen: We have been trying different things since things has been going a little bit wrong. Feel free to leave ideas on how to make it work. Suggestions are always appreciated, whether they can be implemented or not but as I say, Admin will see sooner or later and it is best to wait for their input & bare with it for now.

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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: yeah i m simply telling about myself as an individual how i feel about it.... and lets not say its because of the system abuse it can be one of the reason but it does have other solutions too...
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Lelo M
Lelo M: Ahh!! Well , I personally think, this new rule is not good at all,Why friends can not help each other in sharing of credits/cards/chips etc?? Moreover, I have seen abuse rate on wire has significantly reduced due to rule that "u need wire gold for chatting in main room". I think, Wire should not remove share option.
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Owen
Owen: Understandable and I see your concern, it could be costly for some people in the long run if all they are doing is having the odd game here and there & sending off tickets when they can.

Unless of course, you're like everyone else who gets jackpots but me!

As I say suggestions are always appreciated, if you can think of ways which makes it fair to both users playing the game, and the service whom have had to implement these methods due to users "cheating" or otherwise abusing the gaming system then feel free to leave them.
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goalie29763
goalie29763: Well been reading these comments , I will put some input now , so the abusers and the cheaters are able to ruin for all the good loyal members ??? Think about it that way , I play poker everyday and yes I get help by friends and will say again friends tat enjoy playing together , that's why we are here ( TO ENJOY ) so now this new policy will take that away , Riddle me this as a member are we not here to enjoy ????? My belief of this new rule is there are going to be many and many of very upset daily faithful members , So in reality these so called abusers , cheaters won the battle and cheated the ( LOYAL FAITHFUL MEMBERS OF THIS SITE OF DOING WHAT THEY ENJOY WITH FRIENDS )
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Lelo M
Lelo M: Well said goalie
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goalie29763
goalie29763: I speak the truth and everyone that reads it knows it
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D a e m o n
D a e m o n: Thank you for making it in simple words goalie but the abuser problem have other soultuions too its just not about that bro
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Owen
Owen: I think it is better to make the game fair than have it able to be exploited. I see where you are all coming from and as I said, I see your concern.

We want the game to be enjoyable, but we don't want it to be vulnerable. As I say, bare with it for now. It may not be permanent. If someone comes up with an idea which will work that makes everyone happy, awesome. Post it! It wouldn't be the first time Admin has implement an idea from a user.

In saying that, as frustrated as you may be about this update, try to think of a way to better the situation rather then get angry at us about it. I am trying to help.
(Edited by Owen)
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TheNobleThief
TheNobleThief: Well for me less talking.. the moment i finish my gold member . m gonna search for other chat sites.....if spending money is the only option to be here.. then why not i will try a better option ..
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goalie29763
goalie29763: x Chromosome I 100% agree with u , this is what I going to happen to many , people will leave , this new rule is going to ruin the site not help it one bit ,
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TheNobleThief
TheNobleThief: well goalie i was in a chat site named cupidbay long back. it became a paid site.. now no one talking there.. thts the reason i found wireclub.. now may be i will find some other site..
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Owen
Owen: Guys as I said, it may not even be permanent. Something better may yet come up.

Security is always an issue which needs to be address first, sometimes that may be in a harsh manner. Obviously that part has been done, so it is logical to think the next step is to think of ways to better the situation. Admins will be up for suggestions on this matter given the negative effect it is having on you guys and anyone else concerned about it not posting here within the community.

Have a bit of faith, the update hasn't been applied for long. And it wont be the last update the site ever has.
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RUBYRUBY (Wireclub Moderator)
RUBY: Exactly^^^
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TheNobleThief
TheNobleThief: u mean u apply monetary burden for the sake of security ? lol.. strange
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goalie29763
goalie29763: ?????? What does security have to do with making LOYAL FAITHFUL MEMBERS PAY MONEY ???? DOESNT MAKE SENSE
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