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chronology: Old Abe may have the final victory over Gladstone.

During the American Civil War W.E. Gladstone was Chancellor of the Exchequer in Britain. He also commented many times on his support for the Confederacy during the American Civil War. Across the river from his home town of Liverpool the Alabama was built that did untold damage to the United States when the Union did not need such destruction.

But was Gladstone really a hard core supporter of Slavery and the South? To understand Gladstone's position you need to understand his background. He was born in Liverpool to upperclass parent's. In the city at that time shipping carried on extensive trade with Old Dixie in cotton and tobacco. In Liverpool itself there was a club of upper class business leaders who openly promoted the cause of the South during the Civil War. For them it was 'nothing personal just business' . While in Manchester Cotton Worker's openly boycotted'slave cotton' , but occasionally the Confederate flag would be flown above some shut down cotton mills. The Flag flying antics were almost certainly instigated by the Southern Club in Liverpool.

As has been pointed out by historians, Gladstone's pro South view's were his own personal views and did not represent the British Government at the time. Also, the blockade running and busting Liverpool ships that irritated U.S.Navy officials during the civil war were motivated by Money, not politics.

Well it seems Mr Gladstone's statue in Manchester, home of Britain's Cotton industry during the Civil war may be taken down. But Old Abe's statue in the City is likely to stay for many years. Gladstone is detestested by Anti Fascist people because of his support for the Confederacy.

But as said, Gladstone probably just'went along to get along' with his support for the South. In Liverpool there was an society of upper class Southern folks who mixed with the rich merchants of the city at the time. Had Gladstone supported Old Abe he would have been excluded from his old social circles. He also had no Idea of the awesome power of the United States military industrial complex which was demonstrated for the first time during the civil war. If he had he would have been the first to urge the South to seek peace with the United States.
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chronology: Whoops, LGBT statue protesters in Poland arrested.

The Gay community around the world are probably dismayed at the arrest of 3 Gay activists in Poland for hanging Rainbow Flags from religious statue's in Poland.

Poland has seen a crackdown on Gay's in the last year as Gay's are declared unwelcome in at least 6 Towns. EU Government Officials have warned Poland it risks loosing funding if it continues in the shunning of gay people from public life.

However Poland insists it is protecting traditional values by openly opposing LGBT equality. Right Wing groups in Poland are leading the hostility toward gay people, and the new Government in Poland is doing little to discourage the hostility.

The United States and Europe insist on equality for Gay people and regard any violence towards Gay's as Human Rights violations.

But for some folks in the West Poland is seen as amongst the last countries with any sense of decency. Alongside Russia, Poland is considered protecting traditional values.

The Polish embassy in London may see the huge demonstrations that the Russian embassy did some years ago when over hundred thousand gays surrounded the embassy protesting discrimination against gay's in Russia. Yikes.
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chronology: Lawmakers face huge headache after shutdown.

American are used to having huge numbers of cars parked up out of town. VW had 200.000 parked up after a buy back. But England has a lot less room to play with, so when the Corona shutdown began to see cars discarded by owner's unwilling to keep them, at first it was thousands of cars that needed storing somewhere, then tens of thousands, now it is an estimated 200.000 cars awaiting their fate.

Old decommissioned Airfields are where Government Agencies have turned to for the time being. But it is a huge problem lawmakers face when they return to Parliament. If an MP drives out to some Airfields they will see tens of thousands of cars parked up for as far as the eye can see. When the MPs go home after inspecting the quarter of a million vehicles that need removing they probably pour themselves a stiff drink before bed and try not to think of the huge work load ahead.

Probably the lawmakers are hoping China will save the day and offer to take on the crushed vehicles at knock down prices. But the cost of prepping the crushed cars for export and the work needed will be exceptional.

China has huge cargo ships, and modern smelting facilities, so with Chinese business machines, and lawmakers keen enough to offer tempting prices the problem may soon be gone.

Maybe in a year or so an MP can stroll down an old Airfield with nothing but countryside to look at.
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chronology: Anniversary of Hiroshima remembered.

There's no question that Hiroshima, like Berlin, London, Tokyo suffered a air raid attack, but many researchers still insist America pulled off the hoax of the century when they claimed to have detonated a Atomic weapon over the Japanese City.

But why would America go to such extraordinary lengths to hoax Japan with claims of using such a devistating weapon? The reason it seems was to end the suffering of Japanese civilians who were dieing in conventional air Raids. Also, the United States Government was getting worried about the legality of conventional Arial bombing after the devistating air raid on Dresden Germany. Lawmakers in Washington had requested a full explanation of the reasons for and type of bombs used on Dresden. This for the U.S. military was unsettling.

As the United States planned it's invasion of Japan every plan drawn up involved round the clock day and night air Raids on Japan for month's before U.S.forced made beach head's on the islands of Japan. The loss of life in Japan would have been staggering. There is even some reason to suspect Washington DC would refuse to sign off on such a plan of destruction. What America needed was a scare story that would be great enough to make Japan surrender. The fake Atomic Bomb story was just such a hoax that could save millions of Japanese lives and home's and allow Japan to surrender with dignity.

There is heaps of evidence of how America faked the bomb of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In some ways looking back it is amazing the United States got away with the hoax.

Perhaps the most chilling story of Hiroshima is that the Japanese came close to discovering the hoax virtually straight away. Records from Japanese Government meetings at the time reveal a strong faction of the Government insisting that there had been no Atom bombing at all.
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chronology: Tomorrow sees the anniversary of the Soviets declaration of war on Japan in 1945.

It is still a mystery to some why Russia declared war on Japan in the last moments of WW2. It seemed pointless as Russia probably had not become involved in what was considered the worst battlefield of WW2, the land invasion of Japan.

Some say it was simply a legal move by Russia to fulfill a obligation to FDR to enter the Pacific war three months after the defeat of Germany.
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chronology: Happy birthday Agent Mulder. It is David Duchovny's birthday today.

It seems Mr Duchovny really would have been at home at the FBI. He is a highly educated graduate of Yale University and an all round brainy person. People like John Walker and other spies would have had trouble out witting Mr Duchovny. Chris Carter was always impressed at his intelligence. He said he has read more books than anyone else he has known.
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chronology: Hiroshima memories.

If Hiroshima was a hoax Atomic bombing as so many people insist, then what are people who are being interviewed by today's Media Outlet's saying that they saw a great explosion at the City that sad day?

Firstly it would be wrong to presume that the tragic victims of a incident that day are being honest when they describe their city being destroyed. Like people in London Berlin and Hamburg they were involved in WW2s many air Raids.

The Media are often highly selective in the narrative they present in these people's memories. The stories always involve Hiroshima in tact before the supposed A Bombing, and then the scenes that appear to support the A Bombing afterwards. In reality there are many contradictory stories about Hiroshima. One says that the City was destroyed days before August 6 raid. One story tells of many people living in makeshift shelter's on the day of the bombing of August 6 . The most common theory is that a large Fuel Air bomb was used in the hoax. But one such Bomb could not burn down Hiroshima. But it would be a shocking memory to anyone who saw the blast and mushroom cloud.

A mystery from the time of the bombing was the lone American B29 seen flying close to Hiroshima hours before the alleged bombing. Strange place to fly an aircraft just before the alleged historic bombing. There is no mention of the plane in official American record's. Some claim the aircraft fits into the hoax somewhere they just cannot work out how.
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chronology: A noisy exit.

It all began in England in 1976 when a body was rolled into a furnace for cremation. Everything seemed normal until the furnace room was rocked by a loud bang. There followed three other explosions and the furnace doors almost fell off.

On inspection of the furnace after the body was burned, it was found that the doors had been damaged by the blast and a hole had been punched in the furnace wall.

Later more checking found that the cause of all the explosions was a pacemaker. Gases formed when the pacemaker was burned explode with the power of hand grenades..

Now, before bodies are cremated funeral Staff make absolutely sure there is no pacemaker in the body before sliding it into the furnace.
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chronology: America, the promised land for suffers from Gout.

Some years ago American Health Professionals won the battle against Gout. Unless you have suffered the extreme pain of Gout you will probably have little interest in that triumph over the feared health malady. So when people heard of the American success story in treating the complaint numerous people headed for the U.S. to be free of the extreme pain.

With Covid restrictions on travel ending, the Gout sufferers promised land is again within their reach.

One of the main success tools American doctors have is the medicine available in the U.S. that prevents Gout attacks as well as curing a flair up of the malady. And the medicines are becoming more effective every year.

But American Health Professionals are disagreeing on the best road ahead to lead Gout victims to the Nervana of freedom from pain. One group insists thorough examination and blood and urine analysis etc followed by a diet and lifestyle instruction plan is the way to go. Other doctors say medicine has worked well, patients are not just happy they are grateful beyond words to be rid of the complaint. But say the Medical Advice promoting doctors, there may be no need for people to take the prescription medicine permanently. After thorough and detailed examination the patient may be given advice that steers them away from creating Gout attacks.
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chronology: Nagasaki is reportedly bombed with an A Bomb similar to Hiroshima alleged A Bomb. And Hiroshima many people dismiss the story as a hoax designed to end the war for Japan.

On the other hand you could believe a totally untested, untried bomb which was only a few hours before assembled by a few specialists and loaded on a plane was dropped on an enemy city.

A weapons specialist was asked to comment on the A Bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He said he has never heard of anything like this in the history of warfare. Two weapons, untested and only theoretical at best being dropped onto a enemy city where they could be reversed engineard if they did not explode. Normally weapons like the two Atom bombs are tested for years before used in combat.

As with Hiroshima there is nothing to prove an Abomb exploded at Nagasaki.

It is also impossible to judge how many Japanese civilians were killed in both cities. At Hiroshima there had been extensive house clearance which involved most civilian homes being destroyed before any American Air raids could set them on fire.
Also both cities had a third of their population removed before the air raids. Japanese civilians recalling the preparation for air attacks described how skilled they had become at avoiding American aircraft. The alarm would sound and we would shelter in tunnels and holes in the ground, remembered one lady.

We do know that around 30.000.000. Japanese lives were saved by the a bomb hoax.
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chronology: Sharon Tate is reportedly killed in Benedict Canyon in a incident that is still disputed today.

The actual crime scene report by LAPD is said to be no bigger or contains any more details than they usually write up for a home burglary.

An LAPD Detective recalled the crime later and said cryptically 'I took one look at the scene and thought, this has been staged'.

Indeed. Over the years people who have researched the Sharon Tate 'murders' are still disputing just what really happened that night. Some claim Sharon never actually died. Like Marilyn Monroe she was reportedly seen numerous times after her reported death

Well wireclubers, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki we know Hollywood can keep secrets.
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chronology: This date 1974 one of the the greatest Statesmen ever resigned in Washington. Richard Nixon formally told the American people he was resigning.

A friend of Mr Nixon said at that time few people had been so alone as Mr Nixon had been. In Washington the left had never forgiven him for his days with Joe MaCarthy, and now the Right were furious that he had opened relations with China and was removing American combat troops from Vietnam. The Right Wing were furious with him.
Mr Nixons friend is still loyal to the President. 'His achievements far outweigh any supposed mistakes, his achievements are historic and have benefitted Americans. His supposed mistakes small and few'.
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chronology: Happy birthday Agent Scully.

Ms Gillian Anderson has her birthday today. Ms Anderson is still called a British Actress by some websites despite being from the same Hometown as Ms Hillary Clinton.
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chronology: Belfast families in Belfast call for justice.

The 1971 shooting of 11 people this date in Ballymurphy Belfast has seen families of the victims and Irelands Nationalist supporters calling for justice for the shot victims.

A Formal Inquiry into the shootings presided over by Her Honour Justice Keegan was concluded this year but has yet to publish its findings. It is not know if the Inquiry will recommend any British soldiers be charged with any of the deaths of Civilians.
The British Army has always stated that the victims were shot during cross fire with IRA gunmen. However the Inquiry could find no confirmation at all that there were in fact any IRA volunteers in Ballymurphy. Officers who led their men across open ground stated that they were being shot at, but the Officers could not confirm who was shooting at them.

None of the families who suffered deaths in their families were compensated by the Army.

The Inquiry is set to issue it's findings this year.
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chronology: And we almost missed Andy Warhols birthday wireclubers.
Andy's birthday was August 6. He died in 1987. Andy was a collection of ecliptic obsessions. While he was a devoted Catholic boy who helped out the homeless. He would later make movies that were mostly shown in underground Gay movie theatres in New York City.
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chronology: This date 2018. Richard Russell has had enough of being a baggage handler and decided to take a airliner for a spin over Alaska.

He climbed into the plane and made an unauthorised take off.

A hour or say later he crashed the plane on an island.

He learned to fly the plane from playing video games.
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chronology: 3114BC the Mayan calendar begins this date.

It ended in 2012. But despite all the predictions, the world never ended.
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chronology: Shelf stacking robot's are here.

Well they are not replacing humans yet, but the Robot supermarket shelf stackers have started work in Japan.

Walmart introduced robot's which patrolled the isle's of supermarkets checking shelves. It would inform staff which items needed restocking.
Now Japan has gone a step further and has robot's which for the time being are operated by staff remotely to stack shelves. But every day the robot's CPU unit is learning how to cope with shelf stacking and in a few months will be able to do the job without humans. The data software can then be loaded into millions of robot's to stack shelves.

It will be some time before supermarkets are completely robot staffed, but the process has begun.
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chronology: Robot's having a smashing time.

At the moment robot's do not have feelings, but when they do they will probably enjoy a fine old time smashing buildings to rubble and then clearing away the debris.

Demolition robot's have been around for 20 years now, and have proven popular with contractors tackling many demolition Jobs.

Most demolition robot's are remotely controlled, but some work by themselves.

Will Smith had a run in with a demolition Robot in the movie I Robot.
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chronology: OK wirreclubbers, is there or is there not real photographs of a thunderbird shot near Tombstone in 1890? Never mind all the BS. Is there such a photograph?

Well the answer is'yes' . Is the photograph real? We just don't know. The story begins in the 1890s when a sensational account of a a giant bird appeard in an Arizona newspaper. Over the following years there were stories of people who had claimed to have seen the photos, but there is no actual record at all of the pictures until 2015 . That was when they were first published on a website which claimed to have discovered them.

Perhaps if the photo had been taken on the grassy knoll in Dallas more people would have heard of it.
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Zanjan: "Is the photograph real? We just don't know. "

We'd know from the original photograph, either as a tintype or cabinet card. The only way to manipulate those was to paint something on them. There are ways to tell if the modern photo of the original was doctored.
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chronology: Interesting comments as ever zan.
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chronology: This date in 30 BC Cleopatra commits suicide. She had entered international politics by embroiling herself in Roman politics, and after 21 years in the Public spotlight she left the international scene, again involving herself in Rome's Power politics. The Roman leader Octavian was business like and practical. He was arranging the Middle East with business and security in mind, there was no place for the controversial Cleopatra in the new Roman political landscape. Cleopatra drank poison and left life amidst the drama she always loved.
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chronology: Good luck Kamala Harris.

Senator the Honourable Kamala Harris from California has been chosen as Mr Biden's VP.

Ms Harris is from a upper class background of American Professional people. Curiously both her parents are immigrants to the U.S.

Ms Harris will face a caustic election atmosphere, even by American standards. Democrats also face a daunting task of cleaning up the mess left by the GOP.
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Blackshoes: The Democratic party has become far-left. Just in case you're wondering why Trump was elected. I'll never vote for any democrat again.
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