Religion (Page 9) Zanjan: "it is important to reconize that no spirit can be owned, not (your) wife, husband, child" Yes, this is a hard lesson learned by mankind. To wit: all people in the past had slaves, including members of every religion. Only one religion *by Command of God* totally forbids slavery - ONE. Only ONE religion *by Command of God*, has ordered the emancipation of women and right to hold positions at every level that men do. It's not that God has changed His mind; it's because there's no longer any legitimate reasons left to keep slaves. (Edited by Zanjan)  Tatrasu 2: if one religion is batteling another over accuracy or facts when all religion stems from the same source,,is that really a good example to be stuck on the very issue that the intent is to avoid? how can you have peace or love your neighbour when your day consists throwing stones at them,,creating borders seperation and war for the belief that they dont follow the facts that we do,,you may want to poke your head out of usa for a bit and see whats going on in the rest of the world,,and not.the local news deception who only tell you what sponsors the fear tactics of control Tatrasu 2: if speeking about love compassion and vibrational energy happens to make people sick,,maby the topic of religion is one you should avoid,,unless your happy being deceived?yup you can probably sit in on a skull and bones gathering or maby watch your leaders burn the symbollgy of a child on the arms of the owl god,,these are the same good Christians who choose to have there owls posted everywhere in plain sight to laugh in your face,,fine group of outstanding citizens you have there with the finger poised over the war buttons for profit and theft purposes did you happen to notice how many weapons were used containing uranium? the very excuse used to attack and was never found wow how much.they must care about our hired troups to knowingly cause radioactivity and poison the rest of the world War=Patriot=Fema Tatrasu 2: Zannan the creator of humanity created humans as slaves for the purpose of gold mining what you read in your bible stems from earlier work,,sumerian kings list, sumerian tablets, epic of guilgamesh, enuma elish, code of hamurabi, acadian and norse accounts i am more likely to believe an earlier record chiseled in stone than a book translated poorly at least three times and edited modified by valintino, marcion, constantin to profit themself over 44 books were removed or edited and the nag hamadi found at is not all being released Zanjan: What matters is why they continued taking slaves to modern times. Why didn't humans progress faster? This is the more important question. History is not recorded merely to answer the question "where did "X" come from?" In ONE GENERATION, mankind achieved what those in the past didn't; we've moved forward. Yet, who is asking, "What happened?" (aside from Princess Diana's last words) For example, today, exploiting a country for cheap labour is considered self-serving and unethical. While one can still hire cheap labour, one can't terminate a worker in order to hire cheaper; also, there's a limit to 'cheapness'. It's just a shame laws had to be enacted to enforce compliance. Humans are changing their mentality as awareness improves. You see, the impact of new knowledge has produced a kinetic energy, which in turn causes a domino effect. What was acceptable a decade ago is not acceptable today. Thus, the belligerent keep falling. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: I think it's fair to say that if one truly believes and worships God, they can't get nothing back from Him when they pray - no guidance, no inspiration, no answers, no movement. When God has Willed a certain thing for our time, it will be and nobody can stop it. So, when I hear somebody say "You can't know the Will of God", I reply "Speak for yourself". (Edited by Zanjan)  If the stars fell: no one said anything about exclusion, im suggesting that you dont intentionally manipulate them into believing what you want them to believe, i seriously doubt you are sitting over there teaching your children about the merits of islam at the same time you are teaching them about how righteous your personal religious beliefs are, nice straw man though. Zanjan: Doubt not, ITSF - before you were born, I taught my children the merits of every religion there is - that is God's Command. Of course, I had to learn those religions myself before I could teach - as suggested by He Who is the Lord of all Faiths. I can't take personal credit - I wasn't my children's only teacher, they had many. Millions have done exactly the same thing. It's not hard, it's just time consuming. Not for the lazy and those who have issues with the word "obedience". Fortunately, those who love God find religions interesting; they enjoy learning. (Edited by Zanjan) Tatrasu 2: hugs Zanjan,  ,and sorry dear for the incorect spelling of your profile name and i do agree we are slowly moving together maby in a collective consciousness we need to replace fear with forms of unity Zanjan: That's ok  Yes, indeed......there's no need to fear......there's need to climb that mountain and embrace the possible.  sisiblackdog: Zanjan I believe with all my heart that you truly have the ability to fertalize the entire planet-you have missed your calling. Zanjan: How very intuitive of you! I'm actually making compost in my Bokashi Composter at this very moment. Had a lot of millings left over from the apple and pear harvest. (free blurb for the company there). Just poured off some of the compost tea for the watering jugs - smells like beer - and the rest goes in the earth pit. That was the first seven days. The next Seven days and it will be finished! Yes, that's how long it takes to make new soil, if you do it right. What you take from the earth or heavens you have to put back. We're all borrowers. (Edited by Zanjan) Tatrasu 2: THIS IS A.POST ON RELIGION,,IF YOU DISAGREE WITH OTHER VIEWS PLEASE JUST STATE SO,,MAKES NO SENCE TO INSULT OTHERS UNLESS YOUR A LOW CLASS HICK FROM THE STICKS WHO DOSENT HAVE MANNERS IN THAT CASE,,GO AND STUDY FURTHER BEFORE ENTERING A CONVERSATION BEYOND YOUR MENTAL CAPACITY EACH ARE ENTITLED TO A VIEW POINT PLEASE RESPECT THAT  (Post deleted by Tatrasu 2 ) Zanjan: Religion teaches us not to be tempted by gold. Apparently, a lot of gold was left behind....more than enough for everybody who wants to go get it. Today, gold isn't something people fight over - they fight over political issues. God is the All-powerful and All-wise - if He wants something gone, it goes for a reason. If it's lost, it no longer had any intellectual value. Like the dinosaurs, it's not a good plan for *us* to try to bring it back. We don't know what we're dealing with - ancient tablets could be nothing more than junk mail or treatments of theater acts. Fast forward 3000 years from now. Our forms of media wouldn't survive; we write so little on stone (stone would survive, maybe not the lettering), interpreting that would be tantamount to extracting the story of a civilization from a grave marker. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: What we learn from history is to recognize human patterns of behaviour. We can identify short periods of justice and peace, of injustice and war - this heritage belongs to each and every country. We know the cause and effect every time. We've learned that religion has been influential in moderating the effects, serving to adjust the balance somewhat between good and evil in society. Curiously, civilizations rose and fell frequently, only in the Eastern Hemisphere. As we move forward along the global timeline, we see a steady increase in the frequency and scope of these situations., particularly of wars and injustice, which have spread like an infection. History repeats but something overall is changing. The scale has widened, the noise is way louder than ever in history, and it's pervasive. There must be a crescendo. The consciousness knows intuitively that something must break. We're hearing it breaking. (Edited by Zanjan) Zanjan: Thinking back to the original question posed in this thread, I'm reminded of my children's religious teachers..they had many. They went to Baha'i children's classes, where all the religions of God are taught - all of them; they're shown how all have been true, the divine virtues all of them taught, and the importance of love and unity. Religion without history is useless. The children start young..by the time they're 5, they can confidently recite prayers on their own by memory. When classes for the age 3-5 group were done, my children's teachers would find me and say "Your children can read!" (as if I didn't know, heh). Yes..when somebody *wants* to learn, they're so easy to teach. Never get in their way. This lesson I learned from my own childhood. When I was 4, I wanted so badly to go to school but they said no, I was too young. This was so frustrating. When I wanted to go to church instead of Sunday school, they said no, I was too young and wouldn't understand. Again, frustrating. I didn't want to sit and colour pictures or glue macaroni to paper - I wanted knowledge!! So I left and didn't return, finding my knowledge elsewhere. I think, if I hadn't been deprived of that when I needed it (during early development), my childhood and adolescence wouldn't have been so horrid, tumultuous and painful. Never underestimate anyone's abilities or potential. Never withhold. When somebody is ready to learn, teach them, no matter their age - that's what love is. (Edited by Zanjan)  Nicotina: "All the religions of God"... I'm curious to know what those religions would be, specifically. | Parenting Chat Room 28 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
