suicide- the unforgivable sin?

virginkiss
virginkiss: im going to post this on the religion froums also, but this can also be placed here:
suicide has often been called the unforgivable sin. Now, from a religiou standpoint, i dont believe tht when u accept Christ (okay, from a Christain's viewpiont) that u can be separated, though ppl may point out a verse in 2cnd Timothy to try and disprove me, however, if u commit suicide- do u think u'll end up in heaven or in hell?
so, maybe those of u who know me or have spoken to me have figured out i have problems, (lol), nd suicideal thoight were one of them. Sice i was in 3rd/4th grade, i have wanted to commit suicide-actually, not only wanted, but tried. and i didnt just try once, but every night id try to suffocate myself, i tried to drown myself, i contemplated-looking at the kitchen knives- cutting my throat, and i contemplated- looking at belts and ropes- hanging myslef. I thought of the medula oblangota- or the "soft spot"- on the bck of ur head, so there would be no pain (my freshmen yr of HS in biology). well, dont freak out- bcuz im not suicidal anymore, but i said all this not 4 sympathy or brownie pts, but bcuz i truly want to know, if i ever killed myslef- would it be the unforgivable sin?
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Naboo_the_Enigma
Naboo_the_Enigma: why would u want to kill yourself ffs!??! You're only 18! You have a whole lifetime in front of u. Save some money, go travelling. Find out what life is all about. Experience something new. Everybody experiences low's in their life. Its part of the ride.
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virginkiss
virginkiss: im not suicidal nymore- nd i was suicidal when i was just a child, from 3rd/4th grade (cant remember which). nd, my reasons were valid: i was going to rid the world of an abomination such as mysekf, who only ever failed and was a dissapointment to nature, in simpler terms: i hated myself and knew i only brought pain to the ppl around me. tht is the reason- among many other things.
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john1576
john1576: Virginkiss, you are getting us worried now. Dear girl I have known quite a few people who killed themselves. Some blew their brains out with firearms, others hanged themselves. I think it is classed as 'self murder' which means it is wrong.
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virginkiss
virginkiss: i mean not to worry you-just to simply find answers. if i was still suicidal, i would tell all of u so. and if i was still suicidal, sadly enuf, i mite succeed in wat WAS my life-long mission of my own "self-murder". yet, i am no longer a masochyst an i am no longer suicidal. if i asked this Q when i was, i would not be posting about it, i would be doing it.
(no disrespect intended, az i often will say, i simply speak the truth)
so, suicide is wrong- is it also unforgivable?
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virginkiss
virginkiss: suicide is the answer when u find out everything u soncerely thought was alla lie. not saying im suicidal again, but in one moment i just got pretty close to being suicidal again. y live if every1 only wants to use u? if this world is incapable of expressing love? i may be merely speaking in depression rite now, but it is the truth. sry to worry ny of u-but something i just discovered has forfrited everything i originally thougt.
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john1576
john1576: Now you are talking Virginkiss. You stay 'Peppy' and don't let things get you down. This is a true story. A guy walked into an Armory one time and said to the weapons master; 'give me a gun. I want to shoot my self' so the weapons master handed him his side arm (thinking he was joking), The guy then loaded his pistol and shot himself in the head.
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virginkiss
virginkiss: wats the point of tht story? if i died today, i know i would deserve it for being such a fool. i hate the fact of what i have just discovered right now onl proves me right that i only hurt those im in contact with, or else i end up being hurt. y not rid the world of a presence they seem to have already deemed unloveable?
nywayz, answer me this: is suicide unforgivable?
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virginkiss
virginkiss: im sry, im hurting rite now- no disrespect intended.
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Juke Box Hero
Juke Box Hero: pardon me for saying so, but someone that is gonna commit the ultimate sin, suicide, isnt gonna holler in a forum, isnt gonna call someone to stop them, they are just gonna do it.
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virginkiss
virginkiss: im not suicidal nymore: this is my point. well, i dont think im suicidal nymore...at any rate, i just want to know if its unforgivable-thts all. or rather, ur opinion if its unforgivable.
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Juke Box Hero
Juke Box Hero: Yes it is the ultimate abomindation, It is the ultimate sin to take your own life. If it's done by someone else's hand and u have no control.... then it's not your fault.

Taking your own life is 'UNFORGIVABLE'

If u have had suicidal tendencies before, then they could crop back up, so its best to always have a doc on call if u need some help.
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virginkiss
virginkiss: no disrepsect intended:
a doctor?! i loathe the thought! not bcuz of pride, but-well, perhaps it is some form of pride-but either way, i dont want to.
heck, i know suicidal urges will come up again-in fact, they already have today...but, ty 4 finally answering my Q (tho like all the others ur concern for my well being is there also)
and again: no disrespect intended to ny of u
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Juke Box Hero
Juke Box Hero: Well obviously, if u have suicidal tendencies, then u need some meds to help tone down some of those feelings, such as depression, things like that, which is why i recommend a doctor to help u with that. They can even set u up in a self help group, with other people like yourself, Why start this forum if u are havin the urges, 'cryin for help' to figure out if it's an abomindation to kill yourself, when u, yourself already know the answer, u just dont want anyone else to put it out there? so that gives ya the right to say oh well f@w~ it, just let me do it, no one cares enuff to say YES ITS A SIN... Hey gave my opinion, I am hereby after i post this, I am gonna stop following this thread, apparently the person that started this thread, really doesnt wanna be helped. Wish u the best of luck in your endeavours. I hope that u do decide that life is worth living, regardless of situations that may pop up, crop up, or just appear outta nowhere.

Becca...
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lostx5
lostx5: I dont want to kill myself i just want to die.
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lostx5
lostx5: isnt there any one that will talk to me please i am so alone.
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lostx5
lostx5: never mind
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applepicker
applepicker: Having been in very bad situations in the past, including being as close as having a loaded gun in my mouth with safety off and my thumb on the trigger, I struggled with this thought and then I realized something.

From my point, you put this in the right area when you posted it where you did. I fully believe that you can not see God or go the Heaven if you commit suicide and I say this for the fact it says it in the Bible. If you want to doubt this, read Romans 14:7
That will answer your question plain and simple.
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john1576
john1576: Apple. Good Bible verse. People I have known who have killed themselves seemed to have reached a point where life for them was literally no longer worth living. Seems sad to think they now are in Hell and there is no hope or anything.
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: How can you be forgiven if you kill yourself? If you ask god for forgiveness then kill yourself, then when you kill yourself its a sin, then you cant be forgiven and you will go to hell. Sorry, but its true.
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deuce916
deuce916: Lucky there's no god to not forgive people who commit suicide.

I mean really, a god that sends you to hell because you're having a hard time & want to end it all. What is the sin in that? Not everybody gets has a good life.

Live & let die I reckon.

If you truly believe in a god then you believe that it takes away good people & bad everyday. Well what is the point of it taking the good ones. Doesn't make sense, right?

What's the difference between someone taking their own life & a god taking the life of someone else? None as far as I can see.

So let's be thankful there's no god & grow up & let people make their own decisions.

Having said that - I wouldn't kill myself.
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applepicker
applepicker: In your case deuce, I wouldn't kill myself either.
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Aryaa
Aryaa: Suicide is unforgivable. It is a crime.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: I fail to see why this is this a philophical discussion. "Sin" is not a topic of philsophy, its a topic of religion.
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blonde goddess
blonde goddess: is it unforgivable??? who to?? god?? if it exists then we don't know the answer.... but to your family and friends and people who love and care for you..... I imagine it would hurt them very much but you wouldn't be here to see the consequences. you'd be bailing out on them. you've obviously been unwell and perhaps suffering from a mental illness such as depression, which i hope is being treated. i suggest you contact someone regarding this such as your doctor so you can get help.
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Spirit One
Spirit One: POV of a Yahwist on the subject ,When you end your life prematurely ,you go straight to your Maker ,Father ,Creator ,He sends you back to live a similar life to the one you left , there is no Heaven and there is no Hell ,there is only 'Utter Oblivion' for the lost souls, noboby ends their life without repeating the same until you pay your Karmic Debt ,Yahweh your Creator will open up your Akashik record and show you your life ,He will then send you back into a newborn ,a new life [born again] as you have been many times ,nobody escapes Karma , Suicide is an abomination ,some who end their lives are destined to walk the Earth[unseen -unheard] until the Great and Terrible Wedding Feast Day of Yahweh! those who haven't progressed in any lifetime will be destroyed ,atoms scattered so far apart that there simply will be no more 'YOU' [tis one of Pluto's functions] there will be a small flock ,a Remnant ,that will make it into the New Kingdom Of Yahweh Paradise ,a true paradise established here,On Earth ,as told of by King Solomon [solomon means Son Of Man] Moses and many others ,to be established at the end of THIS 'Age'
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