What makes someone think God isnt real? Irish Lass And Proud: wtf... ur ALWAYS doing these things haha.... btw... i believe in jesus.. god not so much!! im more spiritual and not so much holy... it doesn matter if people believe or not... its there opinion so they can either express it or not... these religious things always end in rows.. so im not gonna bother lol Irish Lass And Proud: well thats your opinion.. and i respect it.. like some people wouldn.. i jus want people to respect my opinion on god and jesus too!! im not asking for much deuce916: Oh come on. There is no god. It's all in your imagination. You're probably like all the rest & are scared that you'll go to hell if you don't ascribe to the hallucination. It's time to put on your thinking glasses & see that a god doesn't exist at all. If you could just provide one iota of evidence for this non-existent thing then maybe I could agree with you. Cheers. XFixYourBrainX: haha thats funny, im not too familiar with how much proof there is on God existing, but there is no proof saying he doesnt exist!!! Outbackjack: It is up to the people who claim something exists to prove it. Not the other way around. Riddler_This: I give lectures and help survey college students and their perspective on this scenario and many that are similar. I've found that the anti-religion (sometimes anti-God) folks are less reliable to show evidence, compared to their religious counterparts who are more likely than anyone to show/claim they have evidence. I'm not supporting either side, simply stating my observations. It is more common for the religiously educated to have a better understanding of not just their own belief, but sometimes having a more comprehensive understanding of their antagonists (sometimes, not always) belief in evolution or there being no god. Many religious folks who believe in God are fanatical beyond comprehension, just as many evolutionists are fanatical with their belief. XFixYourBrainX: I agree with you riddler, most of the time anti-God people only can say what other people say not what they specifically feel, they dont answer questions when asked either, they always end up asking the other person questions. ♠_Krash_♠: I dont believe in god for the same reason i dont believe in snow white and the 7 dwarfs. Their both fairy tales... calybonos: Two statements: 1 Show proof God exists 2 Show proof God does not exist one reply absence of proof is not proof of absense XFixYourBrainX: Nobody could have said it better, i believe no one can prove God doesnt exist though. Riddler_This: I'd second that Pokerman. There is no definitive way to prove God exists. That is simply not how He can or ever was meant to be understood. Evolution can be is akin to Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. We see natural selection, mutation, and speciation, all of which are evolutionary processes, but we fail to see any change on any large level. And we likely never will, it is un-testable, and un-provable, like string theory. XFixYourBrainX: I think the biggest thing people forget is Evolution is only a theory, its not been proven to be true, but evo's say that its real, if its real then why is it still a theory ta-da. Riddler_This: Exactly! And, unless is it scientifically correct, it won't be proven so for at least another hundred plus years. It's ludicrous to think we were at any point in time... an ape! Riddler_This: Yeah it isn't easy. I mean, granted it's not easy arguing with many creationists either. Few people of either side bother to research or learn about their own beliefs, and it just sets them up for failure. XFixYourBrainX: Yup, but what I have found is that evo's never give thier own opinion. They always show a video, I think its because they dont know anything about evolution they just believe in it! Riddler_This: Most of them don't know anything about evolution. They have access to all sorts of information but they don't understand it, they cannot interpret it whatsoever. I've come to think that its a style of rebellion. They assume that by believing in evolution they are on the same side as the intellectuals, and idk, maybe it fosters up some sort of moral rocket, but it in fact simply isn't true. Their main fault is simply not understanding, or being able to interpret data. On the other hand, creationists have a misunderstanding of their own belief, and simply on how to argue on their own grounds. Many of them attempt to counter science (or assumed science) with Biblical verses, which is not possible. One of is a book of faith, the other science. So neither side gains a higher understanding of the other. deuce916: If you believe that something exists then it is up to you to prove that it exists. I say there is nothing there so there is nothing for me to prove. Your argument that I have to prove that a god doesn't exist is ridiculous. Now prove that your god exists. And then we'll get a believer of another god to prove that theirs exists. And then we'll be able to find out if any god exists but to date you have no proof. ♠_Krash_♠: So under your logic poker...donald duck really exist because no one can prove that he doesn't. Keep fantasizing...lmao calybonos: I can prove Donald Duck no longer exists we had him for dinner I still got the carcass.......mmmmmmmm delicious maria148: its called faith, because u r suposed to believe even when its not racional... how do u know that u exit? how can u prove it? just because everyone else says u do? XFixYourBrainX: My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind. When it comes down to the time I am mocked at for my belief which is associated with my faith, I look past my errors and continue, for who are you to point your finger at me and tell me my faults when you should be looking and fixing your own faults first. Only a great superior being that is greater than anything that man has ever conjured with his inexplicable mind should be the only one to judge. Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. It is also said that great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds! The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge. This is for whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of god! -God is subtle but he is not malicious! -Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. -I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice. Spirit One: just as you can't prove dog/god doesn't exist ,I know the difference between dog/god and our 'Creator' whom I know for sure exist ,[PROOF] I have none other than He talks to me and I know it's not an auditory halucination neither ,that's been checked ,not all who hear are crazy ,some have been hearing for a long time but suppress the voice with Depression pills [Drs for some strange reason seem to think you are depressed if you hear voices , Have I seen Him ? No ,but I have seen many spirits . believe what you wish ,like it or not ,some of us do hear our Creator as we are in tune with His Spirit | Philosophy Chat Room 12 People Chatting Similar Conversations |