what is out there besides our universe steven8: can you tell me how, and what proof you have to truly denie the existence of an intelligent being? i am dying to hear, and cant find any. StuckInTheSixties: Are you asking about God, or space aliens? It doesn't matter. There's no proof of the existence of either. Nor is there any proof that either one doesn't exist. There's no proof either way. For either. And there won't be any proof of God in the future, either. There might be proof found for space aliens in the future, but I wouldn't be holding my breath. That's just the nature of how things are. steven8: wow, i have never met anyone such as you. You are the first one i have met, that has seen the future. maybe one time, we can chat and you can tell me what its like in the future. if there will be no proof then, obviously you have been in the future right? you dont make since if there is proof for GOd, and no proof against God, but thats just how nature works. well let me ask you a question where is your proof for that? you must not think before answering to a question, or you just dont care, what ever it is, it will get you know were. StuckInTheSixties: "wow, i have never met anyone such as you." I'm an agnostic. Nice to meet you. "You are the first one i have met, that has seen the future. maybe one time, we can chat and you can tell me what its like in the future. if there will be no proof then, obviously you have been in the future right?" Wrong. I don't have a crystal ball or anything like that. I simply made a rational deduction based on a reasonable interpretation of evidence. However ... Since I am an agnostic, I'll entertain the notion that I could be wrong. I was speaking flippantly. So let me modify what I previously said, if you will: >>> There's no proof either way. For either [the existence of God or space aliens]. And it seems extremely likely that there won't be any proof of God in the future, either. There might be proof found for space aliens in the future, but I wouldn't be holding my breath. <<< Is that better? "if there is proof for GOd, and no proof against God, but thats just how nature works. well let me ask you a question where is your proof for that? you must not think before answering to a question, or you just dont care, what ever it is, it will get you know were." That is simply far too incomprehensible for me to attempt to answer. Where is my proof that there is no proof? (laughs) I'm sure it was unintentional, but that is a very Zen concept. You're not a Buddhist, are you? "why are you on here" I am on here to be on here. (laughs) StuckInTheSixties: Come on, Teece! You should be used to this weird semi-incomprehensible shit by now! Teece: Hahahahahahahaha Sits - I guess I need something concrete to get my teeth stuck into!! This is all over the place!! LiptonCambell: >>>if there is proof for GOd... ....what? What proof? By what standard of proof, and how do you separate authentic proof from outright lies and bullshit? >>>and no proof against God Again, it depends on how you've determined proof. For example, if the Bible is your standard of proof, then the Bible has been proven scienfically incorrect numerous times- I certainly would consider this proof against a Biblical God. StuckInTheSixties: Well Lipton, consider a Biblical God, that did everything just exactly like the Bible described, but solely with the intent to fx&$ with your mind for His own personal amusement. That concept is no less reasonable than any of the others. (That is to say that they are all unreasonable.) memberX: In the absence of solid proof, we are obligated to believe in something...human faith its what makes us people. duncan123: according to the judge n prison experts stuck hids his bollocks in one of his "statments" Alina_Alexander: "proof" of anything is solely based upon an individuals perception of reality. Thus, from an individuals point-of-view, you must first define how they perceive their "own" reality. Alina_Alexander: @memberx We are not "obligated" to believe in anything. It is an individual choice. I could tell you I believe in everything, and I believe in nothing - thus, I have come full circle and there is no further discussion. duncan123: you don't have to tell us what you think or what you believe ever if you had found a god anywhere, n knew the truth, would you tell them? look how they behave! guess what they would do to your god? SnowRaven: People and their endless persuit of some 'higher being'... The scriptures say one must exist, so of course, it HAS to be there! (THAT is sarcasm) Who gives a flying rats? Live as you always have and worry about the immediate things in your life (family, friends, work/school). As long as you are happy with your life, then who gives a shit if an invisible magical pine cone sits atop its little tree, pissing on those who walk under it? That's right, you freaked out zealots: a pissing pine cone is JUST as plausible as anything in any of those messed up scriptures! duncan123: well i am sorry someone pissed on you at christmas perhaps it was a natual respose maybe you should revalueate your christmas worship? hehe | Philosophy Chat Room 8 People Chatting Similar Conversations |