Three Monkeys and Philosophy of Interpretation

AretoNyx: How do people come to perceive truths so differently and some similarly though still subjective?

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AretoNyx: So much is used philosophically. I wish classes started grade school as mandatory as STEM and other. This given theist and nontheist philosophy with how to have logical arguments.

Grade school would start with allowing kids to use imagination on how to interpret media literacy skills while conversing on what media literacy is, then how to seek resources knowing facts from opinion, seeking more than literacy skills to understand how people can interpret subjectively, the ability to understand how to brainstorm in many ways ( yes there is more than one way), introduce logical fallacies while saying how this is for the self to use in thought first, teaching what rights are to whatever extent, and allowing for a report on whatever philosophers and a philosophy topic at some point.

It seems not enough time in the day but there is still a bit. Literature, ELA, or such touches on some but really some never get chance to even know one bit of philosophy in school without biases intruding. Some others none at all.

DIAMONDfire: there seems to be a conflict in the academic hierarchy. the breeze of philosophic speculation is for the upper echelon. but as you would know from sociologic literature there are biases to how well kids get taught basically depending on what family they come from. in Jung's words the gifted child can literally turn into a helpless chop through this. but all of the debates we see in politics and the media are philosophical debates and of post graduate level in regards to understanding. its protected knowledge. that is the value of a good teacher. unbiased.

DIAMONDfire: i found out myself that upbringing plays a critical role in education because something like higher philosophical principles simply will not be learnt due to an inability to conceptualise the topic out of shear emotional attachments, that along with life experiences. i am not a teacher but i know there are strong ethical issues around this situation which may prejudice from the outset. and limit. the parents have got to play a key role in their children's education. if a child shows understanding the chances are they will be taught better. then there's the political barriers like the fundaments of marxism which if understood can enrich an education substantially. but may not be taught for political reasons. another problem is straight boredom that might indicate the topic matter is redundant fundamentally. or the child's attention is not strong enough. i see that as a teachers or parents responsibility. these are my observations based on my own experience with education. i don't have kids.

AretoNyx: Depends on the kid and even adult for attention. Also the age level on how things are taught varies it is not a one size fits all thing. Some times teachers, parents , friends, or whatever...people can still get bored. Creativity and desire for thought to do constructive rather than a destructive thing is a choice of the individual if possible. Though it feels like getting into free will, determinism, compatiblism, and so on...I rather stick to what we are discussing here.

AretoNyx: I think some philosophical topics maybe controversially seen as something many parents may dislike kids learning some places. Some philosophy, media literacy, and such is already taught even if not given such label as a class. I agree many look to learn but not all can afford to do so financially. This for schools to parents. It still makes a difference if taught some basics of arithmetic and reading even if so.
Also besides this there are ways kids get use out of interaction with educational environments even if some things do not stick.

Living in the US ...state to state is different besides cults homeschooling kids. However besides this where kids differ the education system is barely functioning to help people become thinkers of independent thought and way to lead to better work for survival when grown up. Many reject education and put misinformation as parents and some times even schools do so. Humans...

DIAMONDfire: throughout my entire schooling life i shaped up once for one year when i was 10 and we had an old school hard ass male Canadian teacher. besides that everything fell to pieces my education was an exercise in loss. it was about the time that it was banned to hit children. it was throw back of that social controversy. there's still conflict with the older men who believe they paid a higher price from the discipline they received. so my outlook is fairly narrow. my experience is my ability to learn was never tapped until my 30s. but if i had kids i would definitely verse them on how and what the education system wants and expects. i could be bias to an older formula having studied in adult life but thats all i know of it. but old habits die hard thats one thing i definitely learnt.

AretoNyx: I verse my kids in all sorts of stuff schools lack doing and why they likely expect certain things.
I went to school time period that corporate punishment was phased out too. I can understand what you mean.

DIAMONDfire: i have heard of fathers that give their kids bank notes to play with. that would work in peaking a child's attention or imagination. i think you've got to be creative and try to entertain while teaching. i have found the roots of things we commonly know are far more interesting. and this aspect of education has been refined to a state where we take things too much for granted. i guess the question is how do you appeal to a child so that they will concentrate enough to sustain learning? for me it would have been very applied dynamic constructs. that would capture the imagination. i guess another way of saying it is how do you set a person free? it's definitely an aspect of good will.

DIAMONDfire: there's any irony in the concept of fake news. i really don't get what fake news means. if you could determine fake news you would be seeing through it to a deeper news aspect. thats the irony. i saw through it for the first time the other day. and it was a technical experience. fake news is a philosophical bomb. how do you even guard against this?

AretoNyx: Linguistics of all sorts of words are that sorts of time bomb I suppose.

AretoNyx: Being an ancient thing of communication between humans with those intentionally misinforming to just those cognitive dissonance views ...and our own likely ability to be incorrect or make mistakes as humans...do our best I guess.

DIAMONDfire: i heard on tv the other day we can now make our own truth. but we've been making truth forever. so there is an 'object truth' prevailing that is now not valid. is it lies or truth? there is no difference. i think that is the opposite of atheism. which means the atheists are more virtuous than the believers. but it also means the perversion of philosophy is approaching the insane. but that that is a good thing. and contemporary.

Kaiser Basileus: I am the best philosopher. What would you like to understand?

Kaiser Basileus: The Truth is whatever continuously replicates. A truth is an instance of The Truth, such as a fact or a perspective. My truth is my perspective including physical and cognitive filters, knowledge, and past experiences.