How did death become part of life? Greyfeather: It is the nature of human that he is a being who lives and then dies. This is what human experience has proven throughout history And we know that death is a basic idea in human society, meaning that human society prepared the cemetery as a reception for his inevitable nature, so that the idea of death became an aspect of life to which the person was accustomed. since human began to respect dead bodies and bury them with dignity, became aware of the value of human and his presence in the world But what is the benefit of dignified burial that returns to the dead? The benefit is originally accrued to the living, as he respects himself through his respect for others, as he remembers himself through them,but as we know not all people bury the dead bodies, some burn them and perceive dead bodies in different ways, but the dead has a memory that lives in the mind of the living, so we see the farewell rituals, as if one loses part of himself Therefore, we see statues of the great, for example, when we see a statue for a philosopher, this statue has to say something to the living through the works that he made in his life as his presence continues through art. The dead is immortalized in others, and since the dead is in the other, as if he lives in their memories. Human since his inception and his physical development in what is called lifetime continues until he reaches the end stage, and that end is part of his own existence, but he is part of others so he continues in their memory that his presence in others continues through memory, as the idea of art that keeps the presence of that person where a person moves from being in himself to being in others But even in his life he is present in others as if he ceases to exist in himself and remains in others, so can we even be for ourselves? If our existence even after death is a burden on others? (Edited by Greyfeather) Greyfeather: I meant by burden as carrying those memories and caring for burial rites that carries feelings towards that person  thor1112010: Life cannot exist without death. Good cannot exist without evil. One requires the other. Greyfeather: Man possesses the mind and wants to prove the existence of life after death , but he is un able to prove it only in a spiritual way, but perhaps there are possibilities to prove that, since this world contains many possibilities, conjecture differs from certainty, conjecture becomes certain if it is confirmed, but it remains an illusion until it is proven. (Edited by Greyfeather) Greyfeather: If you sleep outside in a very cold night, you will feel that you are really exist, human wishes to die under difficult circumstances, that suffering makes a person feel his presence in life, pain has a big part in life, we try to reduce it but it seems that its never ending only by death  Solvento: If you come back to life after you died you should kill all your enemies because they understand you have PROOF (because you died) that they are ____ (sin); there are an unfathomable amount of persons who died and became ASH because thier enemies already Knew that the proof the person who died has is morally insurmountable. ------------------------------ But as for the post inquiry regarding the placement of Death, it is a failed thing and when death is existing in example of itself on the earth before it expires and becomes a Life of some molecular or chemical form again (if it cease at all, least to say that it not be infectious once or anymore) We would place it in the ground and Life uneffectually transpire trodding unwittingly on this creeping-unexisting thing; Death is a failure and a unweaving of successful and morally relevant compounds. Death, simple to say, dies. And personally, I found that when someone forgets That it REALLY seems to scape across the grain, and Death seems like something more than Death as you pointed out. "try to reduce... never ending only by (D)eath." However death ends, because its simply tranmutable. Death cannot support its own existence. ☝️ chainedhero: We're doomed to this life because our parents decided to have sex. We have to live whether or not it would have been our choice. We struggle, suffer, and work to find a fleeting moment of happiness here and there. Then we face death which we cannot escape anymore than the entrance. into this existence. What a rip!!!! Greyfeather: Why does human want to prove the existence of life after death? Is this part of his humanity? There are hypotheses that may be correct, but they are not certain. From a historical point of view, human is a finite being in space and time, and when a person is asked about his being, the question is necessary for understanding, and the definition of existence is not sufficient in a conventional concepts because the question can be renewed with every being. A person knows that he will die, but what is the use of knowing that? Human lives to die, so death is a state, and if it is not absolute definition, then the end belongs to human through interpretation. We have many answers, if the questioner is a person himself, can the questioner find an answer in himself? What is the necessity for a person to die and what should he do in life? Is it the motive that makes a person search for his being? Solvento: You need to contact a scientist or a statician to go over the real numbers with you about the extraordinary effort that all examples of life go through just trying to survive even when effectually not being successful at it. I mean, its war... once something is alive, it does not want to die. And that's what I was telling (chainedhero) earier- if you die, i mean, it's your fault. You sinned. that's atomically proven. Greyfeather: Is not instinct what makes a person cling to life? What is instinct is it prior knowledge? Greyfeather: God didn't ask us for our opinion whether we want to experience the world or not! Isn't absurd to ask us something we don't know? He didn't ask me about my opinion if I want to start or not because I certainly will not know unless I start .. He also doesn't ask me if I want the end.. However he offered me all means of the end if I want to end my life, but he doesn't ask me if I admire the inevitable end! Well, he didn't ask me from the start of my life which is not logical without knowledge, so the same he will have the knowledge about the after end, for I don't know anything about it. But between the beginning and the end as if he wants me to get to know this world for something I don't know. So my lack of knowledge confirms that I shouldn't know until the test of the end if there's something after life, same as what happened at the first time.. But how is this? The first time I was lack of information, with no information about myself and now I know I am here.. Will it be different when you are nothing and become something you know? To know means to test things Pain, joy, grief , hell, though he provided us all the secure methods which are from the elements of hell in order to enjoy kind of paradise (Edited by Greyfeather)  AA 1 MARINE: When Adam and Eve were deceived by satan and was tricked into thinking that if they ate from the tree of life they would know all the things that God Knew. God punished man and Death would be one of the punishments that he imposed on man.. God intended for man to live forever at the start. death and pain were just two of the punishments enccured on ma do to our disobedience MJ59: lori100: people have met the dead in ndes, out of body travel...can you prove you exist? Easy peasy, just stop paying your bills for a few months  | Philosophy Chat Room 14 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
