Breivik Trails (Norwegian terrorist) Sarcastic Dots: Has anyone else been following the trail on television? This guy is an absolute digrace to humanity. Either way, I think I'm going to start rounding up the crazy for the lazy. Some past events: - Breivik gives closed fist, far-right solute to the "knights templar" as court proceedings begin. - Says he acknowledges his action but is not guilty, as he was acting in self defence - Says he does not recognise the Norwegian judicial system as it acts on behalf of a left-wing government that supports multiculturalism and immigration. - Says he'd do it all again - Cried whilst viewing his 12 minute propaganda video, which included a speech about immigration, multiculturalism and feminism. - Two conflicting reports about Breivik's sanity, one saying his is sane and the other insane. Now some exerts from today. 10.55am: The accused outlines the Norwegian culture he wants to "protect", citing even door handles. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik asked to describe Norwegian culture he wants to protect: "It's everything in Norway ranging from door handles, patterns, beer..." Helen Pidd@helenpidd "...The way we speak, act... school disciple, politeness, the way we address each other." (Breivik's idea of what is Norwegian culture) 20 Apr 12 -- 10.52am: Breivik has already described women as lacking comprehension and "backbone" and crticised the culture he says is turning boys into girls. Now he challenges the knowledge of a female lawyer. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik does not seem to respect women - challenges female lawyer who mentions Masonic philosophy. "How do you know? It's reserved for men." 10.42am: Breivik says he has never had contact with the English Defence League. 10.31am: Breivik insists that he is sane. 10.26am: The accused is now being asked by the lawyers for the bereaved/victims about his capacity for empathy and says he chooses not to feel it because he would break down if forced to truly confront the suffering he has inflicted. -- Sarcastic Dots: Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik says men should not show emotions - "in western europe men have become feminised" - unlike the Japanese men whom he admires. 9.59am: After lauding al-Qaida for its members' willingness to "embrace" martyrdom, Breveik reveals how he overcame his own fear of death. His reference to samurai fits with his own perception of himself as some kind of heroic warrior. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik says he combated fear of death through Christian prayer and the Japanese Bushido "warrior codex" used by samurai fighters. Paul Brennan@paulrbrennan #Breivik says he studied the weaknesses and strengths of many groups: FARC, IRA and others, and concluded the most successful was AQ Steve Rosenberg@stvbrg #Breivik: "most successful (revolutionary org) in the world today is Al Qaeda for linking martyrdom to their operations, they embrace death 9.50am: Helen Pidd, in court in Oslo, has sent through this summary of today's opening session: The Breivik who is giving evidence today on the fifth day of his ten-week trial is probably the most confident and fluent we have seen him all week. Whether or not he is "criminally insane" in the eyes of the court, there is no doubt that he planned every aspect of his attacks in cold, clinical detail - and he seems to be enjoying demonstrating the extent of his preparations and knowledge Nothing was left to chance. He has told the court today how he carried out test blasts 2km from his farm during a thunder storm so as not to arouse suspicion; how he learned an unusual bomb making technique from Andreas Baader from the Red Army Action. Yesterday we heard how he made a sign to put in the window of the hire car where he planted the bomb warning of "sewage works" to explain the sulphuric smell. He also says he consulted 600 different bomb making manuals on the internet but in the end concocted his own "recipe". Earlier in the week, Breivik was evasive and truculent in the witness box, refusing to answer more than 150 questions related to the Knights Templar anti-Islamic network he claims to be a part of. The prosecution do not believe such a group exists and say that Breivik was alone terrorist, an assertion Breivik repeatedly denies. But today, admitting he alone worked out how to build a deadly bomb, he is animated, eloquent, giving expansive answers to questions put to him by his defence team. We know already that the 33-year-old is rather sensitive about being a high school drop-out - he has repeatedly stressed that though he does not have a school leaving certificate, he has carried out "15,000"hours of independent study. Today he is revelling in the opportunity to show just how much knowledge he had learned about explosives in order to carry out the Oslo bomb attack which left eight dead and dozens more seriously injured. 9.05am: Helen Pidd, in the courtroom, says Breivik seems to relish discussing construction of the bomb. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik is most fluent & happy when talking about how he planned the 22 July bomb - eloquent, animated, intelligent. Attention to detail. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik says he relied on Google Translate a lot in order to gain his bomb making/chemistry knowledge. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik says that Japan and South Korea are the "ideal states" for cultural conservatives and nationalists such as himself. 8.39am: Breivik is asked whether he can feel sadness. Helen Pidd@helenpidd Breivik: "Under normal circumstances I am a very nice person." Says he cried more than anyone else as his best friend's brothers funeral. Trygve Sorvaag@TrygveSorvaag Norwegian newspapers have today removed #Breivik from their front pages. Sarcastic Dots: Oh yeah, one more thing "I begin shooting. Maybe four, five people. What happens is that people are completley paralyzed. They aren't able to escape. It's something I've never seen on tv, in movies, in series. That they are not capable of running. It looks very strange. I know I'm out of ammuntion at the same time as people are around me. And they are just standing there. They are screaming, begging for their lives. I manage to change ammuntion, but they are paralyzed. They are just standing there. So I kill them."  lavendar_star: I have to say I got annoyed when the event happened and when the media thought it was a Muslim thing it was terrorism but when they found out it was him they change to lone gunman, he is a terrorist no different from the Muslim radicals. I ve already encountered someone on here trying to defend him by stating well the Muslims are taking over and I have seen similar defence on yahoo UK comment page. He is evil and not insane. (Edited by lavendar_star) Sarcastic Dots: Ultimately, and this is something I find hilariously hypocritical, the right wing extremists have more in common with radical islam than their fellow countryman. - Both sexist - Both hate democracy or, at least, use violence to force out democratic parties they dislike. - Both hate religious and beliefs that differ from their own  duncan124: It is news worthy that so many people died when in the UK a shooting does n,t often mean death. It is odd to take away peoples right to self-defense whatever politians say. lavendar_star: What are you on about@ Duncan lol a right to self defend in what context are you applying that to. lavendar_star: Ok Duncan as usual your losing me, that evil bastard he said was acting in self defence against Islamification of Europe and his country which is just bullshit, to kill 77 innocent people is just wicked and no excuse can justify that. My point is what are you on about in regards to self defence!!!! lavendar_star: OK I think lol I am finally understanding you, your pretty much stating that his excuse is what other radicals would say, you know I still dont kind of get you lol but that's fine. duncan124: @ lavender You know it is n,t recent news. You must be aware that it is illegal to report what he says in most countrys were people are free. lavendar_star: Yes it is lol Duncan where do you think that Sarcastic dot got his info from and its not illegal to report what he is saying either. where did you get that from??? duncan124: Police say Lavender shot 77 people. Court says "what did you shoot them for?" In USA it is illegal. Look at Dots he has already used it to attack radical politicians. Yan26: How come no one mentions that he is Christian or White? If he had been a Muslim both his religion and race( provided he was not a white Muslim) would have been mentioned in every second post.( I mean in the news reports) Sarcastic Dots: I find it mire interesting that White man- OMG HE MUST BE CRAZY. HE IS JUST ONE MAN Arab man- OMG HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. TERRORIST. ALL ARABS ARE LIKE THAT. Yan26: Yeah that is what I meant. I have seen Western media( the limited ones to which I have access) call criminals Muslim even if they commited a crime like a mugging which had nothing to do with their religion and more to do with poverty. The same is not done with other criminals. This often leads to a false impression among common people that Islam has something to do with violence /criminality. This is a dangerous trend . It may even lead to the sort of hatred we witnessed against Jews in the first half of the 20th century if it is allowed to go unchecked. (Post deleted by staff ) (Post deleted by staff )  Agricola: 'If he had been a Muslim both his religion and race( provided he was not a white Muslim) would have been mentioned in every second post' When was the last time u read a newspaper printed in the UK? the 18th century? In the UK the media has imposed self-censorship in order to not rile overly-sensitive muslims. Muslims terrorists are now labelled 'Islmaists?' and Muslim criminals are now refered to as 'asians'. They would rather vilify a whole race for the sake of protecting a religion. Agricola: 'How come no one mentions that he is Christian or White?' Yeah! Coz all them crazy evil white people are always getting away with murder and shit! But, yeah i guess we do give muslims a hard time. Afterall, it could've been just poverty and misunderstanding that led a group of Muslims to murder 3000 innocent people on September 11th 2001 (Edited by Agricola) | Politics Chat Room 88 People Chatting Similar Conversations |