FGM in Britain? OCD_OCD: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9219217/100000-British-women-mutilated.html As many as 100,000 women in Britain have undergone female genital mutilations with medics in the UK offering to carry out the illegal procedure on girls as young as 10. Investigators from The Sunday Times said they secretly filmed a doctor, dentist and alternative medicine practitioner who were allegedly willing to perform circumcisions or arrange for the operation to be carried out. The doctor and dentist deny any wrongdoing. The practice, which involves the surgical removal of external genitalia and in some cases the stitching of the vaginal opening, is illegal in Britain and carries up to a 14 year prison sentence. It is also against the law to arrange FGM. Known as "cutting", the procedure is traditionally carried out for cultural reasons and is widespread across Africa. It is thought to be needed as proof of a girl's "purity" for when she marries, but victims are rarely given anaesthetic and frequently suffer long-term damage and pain. Research suggests that every year up to 6,000 girls in London are at risk of the potentially fatal procedure, and more than 22,000 in the UK as a whole. The Metropolitan Police said since 2008, it had received 166 reports of people who fear they are at risk of FGM. It is the same story for all 43 forces across England and Wales with no convictions for the offence ever taking place, according to The Sunday Times. The newspaper added that only two doctors have been struck off by The General Medical Council since 1980. According to Forward, a charity which campaigners against FGM, an estimated 100,000 women in the UK have undergone genital mutilation.  southern77: its a muslim thing... i posted a vid about this in another room but the star said i was being racist for posting it  lavendar_star: As usual your like to lie and bring up my name @Southern lol and you and Great where posted alot of videos about Muslims in the Iran girl got attack thread with expmales of how their this and that and expecting that Muslim convert to be responsible for all things bad radical Muslims do in this world lol, including one on this subject. I just pointed out it was a cultural thing not a Muslim thing which obviously I was right about, please copy and posted when I posted in that thread that you were being racist, my little southern boy,  As I said in that thread you cant be racist to Muslims because they come in different colour and ethnicity but nice your think of me when im not around. Anyway, its disgusting and sexist cultural practice and should not be happening in the UK but recently doctors were caught aborting girls for certain cultural groups mostly likely a minority of Asians( Indian etc) should not be happening in the UK. Disgraceful. (Edited by lavendar_star) southern77: again the troll shows herself...she cant stand the truth... what i posted are facts.. .Anyway, its disgusting and sexist cultural practice and should not be happening in the UK but recently doctors were caught aborting girls for certain cultural groups mostly likely Asian( Indian etc) how is this not racist on your part... or atleast just plain stupid you think that nothing evil is going on in england? (Edited by southern77) OCD_OCD: I don't think it is a Muslim thing as far as I know. From what I have read it is more of an African thing, although I have to admit that I don't know if Muslims practice it or not. for any culture or religion, it's a form of brutality and control against women. What absolute horror! southern77: this cutting goes along with the honor killings that are happening as well... and yes i know im wrong about everything ive said... odd how that happens southern77: ocd please dont be so naive... ive posted a few vids about the subject and yes it is a muslim thing dont be fooled lavendar_star: You have not posted facts just a false opinion, you couldn't handle me before, provide evidence ok, my poor little southern boy and why you mentioning my name for do you remember saying this southern77: no star... you want to ban it for religous reasons... which in itself is a form of racism... which you keep saying you arent a racist, which many can tell that you really are.... its a security risk pure and simple 2 days ago • Report Not once in that thread did I say I wanted religious dress banned for religious reasons but as usual you like to lie on my name and bring my name up when Im not around but I understand now, its call still waiting for that copy and paste. I apologise to OCD but you need to talk to your friend who seems obsessed with me and keeps bring up my name and being a barefaced liar lavendar_star: OCD OCD your a wise woman it is not a Muslim thing as some people from non Muslim countries do that it is a cultural thing, I understand some people want to blame all the evil in the world on Muslims but it isn't the case. OCD_OCD: Some subjects are highly controversial, particularly at this point in time. I do hope that we can all discuss our differences civilly, though. I'll be the first one to admit that when it goes from discussion to personal attack that I'm as bad as anyone else at issuing a slap for a slap. Mea culpa, mea culpa! lavendar_star:  that why its all about from me But either way it shouldn't be happening in the UK even worse if its done on the NHS, its shocking. I think sometimes people like to be too accommodate or too PC/liberal to some cultural groups. I imagine its just hard cold cash these doctors or medic receive and that's why they do it, its like the issue of force marriage which they will probably make illegal, still something need to be left in the past as there's no place for it in modern society and that female circumcision for my knowledge is all about power and control over the young woman and for the man's pleasure, yuck. southern77: the lil racist girl is so desperate for attention all she can do is lash out in frustration against anyone that dont agree with her... shes a closet racist and hates the fact that anyone might call her out on it try looking it up... female circumcision southern77: its not for the mans pleasure .... read up on it you idiot... when the vagina opening is the size of a matchstick to only allow urine and menstral out... how the hell is that for a mans pleasure lavendar_star: Yes because when a newspaper did undercover work at abortion clinics and doctor surgeries it was a female doctor who was going to abort the baby full well knowing the couple were going to abort a child because it was female. Which is illegal as we have strictly rules on that because of some people in some cultures who may abort a child if they find out its a girl. So yes a woman doctor would do it, i think gender is irrelevant on issues concerning female inequality and peoples own greed.. I watched a documentary on the subject I think in a African country and that their reasoning for doing it for a man's pleasure and some other crazy reasoning, sick lavendar_star: You just answered you own question so the vagina is small hello which man like...not to get crude and graphic and women have two holes down there,one to pee through and another for obvious reasons, yet again not to get crude, so im not idiot. southern77: now if the opening to the vagina is as small as a matchstick... just how is that to bring pleasure to a man? OCD_OCD: We are supposed to be progressing as a species, not regressing. This smacks of witchcraft and ignorance. southern77: third world countries ocd... and somehow its widespread in england... go figure and some want to allow sharia law here into AMERICA... (thats for gtg if he reads this thread) lavendar_star: "I think that it is very important for the virginity of women to be protected if they want to get husbands who respect them," a fifty-five-year-old Sudanese mother of five girls reports (Abusharaf 1998). Getting married and having children is a survival strategy in a society plagued by poverty, disease and illiteracy. Conflict theorists would argue that the socioeconomic dependence of women on men affects their attitude toward circumcision. Women are more likely to get married to wealthier men if they are circumcised. Symbolic interactionism would argue that socially learned meanings associated with circumcision-purity, fertility, beauty, and womanhood- are appealing to men.Uncircumcised women are less likely to be married. They are seen as impure, bad cooks, infertile, and promiscuous. Either way this done solely for a woman to get a man and the control and dominance over a young woman and woman sexuality. Its defo a cultural thing Religion Although female circumcision is practiced by Africans of different religions, a higher percentage of circumcised women are Islamic. Many Muslims believe the ritual is a religious obligation. However, female circumcision is not even mentioned in the Koran, and it is unknown in predominantly Muslim countries outside of Africa, such as Saudi Arabia and Iraq. What seems likely is that when Islam came to Africa, its emphasis on purity became associated with the existing practice of female circumcision (Abusharaf 1998). Through interactions in societies that practice female circumcision, the social label of purity became associated with female circumcision. As I put its not a Muslim thing but a cultural and rural thing from the same source. http://www.siue.edu/~jfarley/nicho490.htm OCD_OCD: It sounds like it is more to insure her virginity because sex would be impossibly painful. I don't want to be gross, either, but when the female gets married, is it reversed, or does she simply have to endure tearing? OCD_OCD: Ah, then that's why I have associated it with the African Continent rather than as a religious tenet. | Politics Chat Room 70 People Chatting Similar Conversations |