How legal is it? Israel Killing a nations leader (Page 4)  slasian: Pathetic could be defined in many ways... In the real essence of justice, no one is doomed to die with out a fair trail. As anyone can read, by just browsing few pages of this thread, some people describe Arafat as a blood trusty terrorist whose death means nothing but relief. From the strict sense of legal issue, even Israel is not allowed to murder a nations leader. For the government of Israel, Arafat may be an enemy but how can we call him a mere terrorist? Its okay to kill Binladen in action, but it is completely immoral and utter display of tyranny to murder a former leader of a nation, who is recognized by the UN general assembly and who also sat in the UN among other world leaders representing millions. It is one thing to call Arafat a terrorist, we all remember Nelson Mandela was once called a terrorist and was on the top wanted list of the British government, but to argue that his death [Arafat's] even as a revenge murder by Israel is just and fair is an utter hatred and lack of the simplest rationality. I think it is more than pathetic, it is just stupidity, the like of which once initiate the holocaust.  davidk14: . Slasian, What country was Arafat the leader of? I thought he was the leader of the terrorist organization PLO which murdered innocent civilian men women and children through suicide attacks on schools, restaurants, and buses and who also murdered Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics. If he was the leader of a country, those actions are considered an act of war. Now, what country was Arafat the leader of? davidk14: . Correct. Just trying to get an answer from you when you said, "...from the strict sense of legal issue, even Israel is not allowed to murder a nations leader." So, what country did he represent? And I'll re-state my comment as well... What country was Arafat the leader of? I thought he was the leader of the terrorist organization PLO which murdered innocent civilian men women and children through suicide attacks on schools, restaurants, and buses and who also murdered Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics. If he was the leader of a country, those actions are considered an act of war. Now, what country was Arafat the leader of? .  XWhiteandBlue: I think we are missing the bigger issue... How moral is it... ...To accuse a nation of performing an act without any proof. And how Intellectually dishonest is it... ...To Phrase a question in such a way as to disguise your assumption as a fact and the basis for your accusation. Just because someone hypothetically could... does not mean that they actually did... regardless of how much you dislike them (Or how much you may personnaly would wish to impugne that accusation on them) You may want to cover up... your prejudice is showing slasian: David, because your question is so... that's why I give you an answer in question form, you know what nation he represents and if you don't, go fly a kite! Bazilkum, yes you and I agree on one point, UN is nominal and it's some one's bitch. Barbi, I know you currently stop taking your pills so... XWhiteandBlue, you seem some how different, you try to explain things in a logical way for that I give you a credit. Yet, you lack the most important quality which is impartiality. You are simply a barking dog full of bulshits and crabs! Yeah Israel has many enemies so what? Does this mean the country has a green light to do any thing? The difference between you and me is I will always refute injustice no matter who commits it yet you, like a trained dog, only bark at one side. I had many posts which stand against terrorists, Muslim fundamentals or anti Semite's hate mongering propaganda and am not a bit enthusiast about the distraction of Israel. Yet Like any other vice, I oppose the murder of Arafat! If you had any moral ground to form your logics, I suggest the first thing you need to do is check how impartial you could be!  Barbara the Jew: Slassian insults! It means that you lost this argument intellectualy and now moraly. Have a nice day.  slasian: An impartial man would first refute and condemn a murder, sadly none of you, including whiteandblue which you twice tell ‘he is not Jew’ and which I twice answer IDC show impartiality in your answers. In fact, the murdering of Arafat was treated in each of your posts as a beautiful thing. Like I said before, loving your country is very different from standing for the truth. The man was murdered; no one pointed out murder without court justice by itself is a vice that needs a stern scold. Not a slight impartiality is left in you or your ‘none Jew’ friend Barbi. Like I said Arafat might be not a good friend of Israel but a murder is a murder. If you had a slight impartiality, oh what am I saying… David, like usual your post makes no sense. Barbara the Jew: I have condem Arafats murders many times. Do you not read. Who is my non jew friend? Arafat was not murdered why would they murder a retired old fruitloop who did more harm for Palestine than Israel. I am not Israeli. Slassian your arguments are unfounded. you sound like a crazy person. XWhiteandBlue: The reason I choose to refrain from comenting on Yasir Arafat's death, is because you "highjacked" that fact, and superimposed on it a whole layer of assumptions that are unproven and lack evidence. Therefore answering your question would force an implied agreement to a whole slew of assumptions / accusations whose only connection to the event is your desire for that particular group to be the responsible party, as backed up by a highly suspect piece of political commentary, disguised as "investigative journalism" ... In fact, your assumptions about me are incorrect as well; I don't particularly like Israel, I just don't see the"smoking gun" type connection between the Israeli's battle with the PLO, and Arafat's killing. If Israel or the US could have gotten Arafat, it would have been more politically advantageous for them to hold a public trial for his "crimes against humanity" like they did with Saddam Hussein. Whoever killed him (if he was indeed killed in the first place) robbed Israel & USA the chance to showcase their concept of "the rule of law" by having him tried in an international court of law... and the last thing the zionists need is another so-called "martyr" as some of the more radical elements within the Arab world will try to re-invent Arafat into being. Slassian, I'm not pro-Israeli, I am pro logical thought, and anti unfounded bias. unfortunately, your bias blinds you to the argument. (Or perhaps, you are well aware of it, yet choose to further your own agenda through "propaganda" while burying logic under insults, lest it disproves the vitrol you are peddling. slasian: Xwhiteandblue, What are my desires? Like you said it, who could get Arafat and why is it impossible to think Israel might had a hand in the murder. About "crimes against humanity", how many times did the Israeli leader's got a call for it? Didi you need to read a copy past on Bankimoon's comment? In this case, the elephant in the room is how you duck to discuss even on the possibility of Arafat's murder. An impartial man is willing to discuss in every possible angle. Barbara the Jew: Impartial man. Slassian you have already convicted Israel as guilty. How can you say your impatial?  dave3974: assian you just seem kenn to link any nonsense with israel , reagrd less of facts , we have had some awful waether over here recently storms , rain , no summer , is this down to zionists | Politics Chat Room 52 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
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