Iranian girl attacked in UK over hijab (Page 116) snaggletooth007: Not just Orthodox Jews, but most non-secular Jews are prejudice towards gentiles. As well as many secular Jews. Jews are very xenophobic.  davidk14: . Hum...let's see.... I married a woman who happened to be 2nd generation American [Hispanic] Our daughters are Christians. I am a Jew and racist????  . snaggletooth007: I am an American white Hispanic, and I would like to know what you have against rednecks. A lot of Jews spew hate all the while shouting out that everyone is antisemitic. Are you implying that there are no racist or bigoted Jews? Now that's laughable.  Barbara the Jew: When did he say there are no bigoted Jews? He is just implying that not all jews are racist or prejudice which is the correct term! I am also Jewish I married a Chritian half black man. Snag the only prejudice one here is you Barbara the Jew: by the way I am also hispanic from Puerto Rico I dont care if you like me (Edited by Barbara the Jew) Norma95: Now I'd like to mention the fact that being of different ethnic racists or religious background does not mean that you can't be a racist or a bigot. I'm honestly getting tired of that argument. Anyone can be a racist or a bigot, doesn't matter your background. It's not exclusive to one race. Geez people. And that is towards everyone on here. (Edited by Norma95) snaggletooth007: It'll help me take an afternoon nap. Thank you...You should watch Bates Motel it's not as good as Hannibal but it's alright. snaggletooth007: I meant the TV shows. The actor who plays Hannibal is even better at it than Anthony Hopkins. Barbara the Jew: Norma I agree with you! however to claim that a group is racist or prejudice when itself its composed of many ethinic backrounds is prejudice in itself. but seing snaggle last post I will conclude he is just being a troll snaggletooth007: Jews can be racist they don't get a "get out of being racist free card" because they are Jews. In the U.S. Judaism is considered a religion in many other countries around the world they are considered an ethnic group. Remember the part where you are all descendants of Abraham. That is a blood line, an ethnic group. You must not know very much about Judaism Barbara even though you claim to be one. Read the Torah or the Old Testament if you don't know about Abram who was later named Abraham by God. (Edited by snaggletooth007) snaggletooth007: Remember when the Jew told me to "stay with my own kind" when I was dating a Jewish girl. What do you think he meant. I had to take my crucifix off when I was around her parents. What was that all about. It's as if you've never been around any Jews Barbara. I'll be waiting for your uninformed reply with bated breath, Barbara. (Edited by snaggletooth007) Barbara the Jew: As I said before all groups have prejudice people. I never claimed otherwise, What I said was that you should not judge us all by your negative encounters. Snag we are not consider an ethnic group but more of a clan or tribe. Very diferent than an ethnic group!!!!! Many Christians (not all) are agresive towards their children dating outside of Christianity. Dont forget the inquisition in Spain, Mexico, and Peru. It seems Snag that you are the one who has no knowledge. By the way the book of Genesis begins with creation remember God creates humanity in His own image it does not say He created Jews in His own image. snaggletooth007: If you are a direct descendant of Abraham how can you not be an ethnic group...Besides I'm not the one who defines Judaism around the world...And you did say Jews can't be bigots because there are black, Asian, and Hispanic Jews...I have known bigoted Jews...And in the Old testament and Torah, God supposedly tell the Israelites (who were all related to each other) to kill all of those they conquered and take no prisoners. When the Israelites didn't kill all they conquered, and married some of the conquered females, God supposedly got mad at the Jews and made them to roam the desert for forty years. That sounds like bigoted teachings...The Old Testament (completely written by Jews) states that it is a sin to let a gentile enter your home or share food with them since the gentile is unclean (sounds bigoted to me)...As for Christians which I classify myself as one, albeit a bad one with many faults and lack of faith, they have caused much human suffering though out history. The difference between you and I Barbara is I admit the truths and you can't except them. I'll be waiting for your incorrect statement. Barbara the Jew: Did you know your jewish by your mother? To some uber religious jews is the same as committing murder to marry a non jewish mother. Again you are making assumtions of things you know nothing about. The jews wondered in the desert because they refused to trust Gd. When the 10 spies came back from Cannan only 2 trusted Gd word that he will give them that land. It was then that Gd punished them to 40 years in the desert. You should do your homework you sound ignorant. When and where did i say that jews are perfect? You ask about being decendents of Abraham? Are you really that simple minded!!!!! ????? snaggletooth007: God was also unpleased because the Jews were so suppose to slaughter all the tribes they conquered and not marry their women as they did, because they would lead them to stray from Judaism. The spies you mention said that there were giants in the promised land. You can't teach me a thing you cow...You are boring the hell out of me, but I can't stop reading you're posts, it's like looking at a car accident (Edited by snaggletooth007) Barbara the Jew: God had promised the Israelites that they would be able to conquer the land with its incumbent Canaanite nations. Moses instructed the spies to report back on the agriculture and lay of the land. During their tour, however, the spies saw fortified cities and resident giants, which frightened them and led them to believe that the Israelites would not be able to conquer the land as God had promised. Ten of the spies decided to bring back a false report, emphasizing the difficulty of the task before them.[3] They gave Moses this account, "We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit.But the people who live there are very powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there." — Numbers 13:27-28 Two of the spies — Joshua and Caleb — did not go along with the majority and tried to convince the Israelites that they could conquer the land.[4] However, the Israelites believed the majority's conclusions. All of the spies except Joshua and Caleb were struck down with a plague and died.[5] "Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, 'We should go up and take possession of the land, for we can certainly do it.'" — Numbers 13:30 Joshua was at first a fierce warrior. He was chosen to as the representative from his tribe, Ephraim, to explore the land of Canaan, and was in agreement with Caleb that the Promised Land could be conquered. After the incident with the 12 spies, Joshua lived through the 40 year wandering period, and was named successor to Moses as instructed by God. Joshua completed the task of leading the Israelites into the Promised Land and of taking possession of it. Joshua also was the leader in renewing the Mosaic covenant with their God.[6] Caleb was from the tribe of Judah. He was also chosen to explore the land of Canaan, and he was (along with Joshua) the other man who said that the God of the Bible could help the Israelite people to victory against the Canaanites. God promised Caleb and Joshua that they would receive the land which they had explored for themselves and their descendants. Caleb was also told that he would live to go into the Promised Land.[7] The names of the twelve spies were:[8] 1.Shammua son of Zaccur, from the tribe of Reuben 2.Shaphat son of Hori, from the tribe of Simeon 3.Caleb son of Jephunneh, from the tribe of Judah 4.Igal son of Joseph, from the tribe of Issachar 5.Hoshea (Joshua) son of Nun, from the tribe of Ephraim 6.Palti son of Raphu, from the tribe of Benjamin 7.Gaddiel son of Sodi, from the tribe of Zebulin 8.Gaddi son of Susi, from the tribe of Manassah 9.Ammiel son of Gemalli, from the tribe of Dan 10.Sethur son of Michael, from the tribe of Asher 11.Nahbi son of Vophsi, from the tribe of Naphtali 12.Geuel son of Maki, from the tribe of Gad Some people think the word "spies" is an incorrect translation. In Chapter 13 of Numbers, the Hebrew word describing the group is the word usually translated as 'men' or the word usually translated as 'princes'. In addition, the twelve were clearly not trained as spies, nor did they conduct any covert activity nor did they enlist any indigenous people for later help. Thus the phrase "Twelve Scouts" or "Twelve Observers" might be an alternate way of describing the group. Consequences [edit]The Israelites' belief of the false report amounted to the acceptance of lashon hara (slander) against the Land of Israel. "But the men who had gone up with him said, 'We can't attack those people; they are stronger than we are." And they spread a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, "The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there were of great size. We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.'" — Numbers 13:31-33 This was considered a grave sin by God. Corresponding to the 40 days that the spies toured the land, their God decreed that the Israelites would wander in the wilderness for 40 years as a result of their unwillingness to take the land. Moreover, the entire generation of men who left Egypt during the Exodus would die in the desert, save for Joshua and Caleb who did not slander the land.[1] For 40 years the Israelites wandered in the desert, eating quail and manna. They were led into the Promised Land by Joshua; the victory at Jericho marked the beginning of possession of the land. As victories were won | Politics Chat Room 87 People Chatting Similar Conversations |