Republicam Candidate for 2012

chronology: Mr Obama has officially stated he is running for re-election in 2012, but who will Mr Obama stand against?.

Four names crop up more often than others, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, and ........ Sarah Palin. Sarah is the 'wild child' of the G.O.P. but she has a fiercely loyal voter base and is the most adept of all the Candidates at using social Networking sites like Twitter and Face-book.

2012 looks like being an epic election year for Americans, both Democrats and G.O.P. supporters are passionate about their countries future.

Two final words; 'Vote Obama'.

StuckInTheSixties: You're apparently not paying close attention. The guy that's making the most noise these days is Trump. He's tied in the polls with Romney as a Republican frontrunner.

chronology: Interesting SITS, but what are you doing still awake, you naughty Old Boy. It is milk and cookies time for you in California. And don't think about Sarah too much as you lie in bed.

StuckInTheSixties: Oh Grand Champion Lying Liar of Wireclub, have you any good lies for us today?

Don't deny the holocaust again as you lie in bed.

franklin1950: wensday morning .
in a few minutes obama is going to speak adressing his birth certificate .

why the delay in producing " official " document .?

gotta luv american politics
so entertaining

Malobear: G.O.P. has no one that can run and to many Trump doesn't stand a serious chance. Could it be in this country,the first time a Independent might stand a real chance for election? Way too early to tell.
I doubt Obama will get reelected. Too many things still going on with him and his cronies. The birth place ordeal,His sending american lives to war in Libya,which by the way Chrono back when Mr Obama was running for president his running partner Joe Biden said he was going to impeach Bush if Bush went to war with Iran without congress approval. lol it seems only democrats are allowed to do that. And the list can go on Chrono about Obama,change you can step in.
I know SITS doesn't really care for this radio talk show host Michael Savage. But riding home from work last night Mr. Savage brought up a article he had found claiming the Feds had printed more money in the last two years than it had in the last 200 years.
Scary stuff Chrono when my dad of over 90 years of age tells me over the phone that things are looking like they did right before the big crash and great depression.
Anyways good to see you posting on a recent thread Chrono. I really started worrying about you posting to dead threads and non existent users Chrono. It started looking like you had gone Coo-Coo.

chronology: Malo. Never knew Mr Flashes Threads were 'dead' and had become a 'none person'. Strange, he was a dedicated Conspiracy Theorist. Usual BS from you about Economics, like David, it never fails to amaze people how you two miscomprehended Money. Am not even going to waist my time any more on addressing the Kindergarten level you and David live on in Economics. I tried to explain to David one time that the U.S. could actually make huge profits off these 'debts' like it did with the Chrysler Bail Out.

The complaint I hear most often about Sarah is that she is not interested in being President, she sees the White House as just a background for her personal 'Celebrity Brand'.

I do hope Old SITS never dreamt about her too much. The Naughty Old Boy.

Malobear: I hope your right Chrono about "miscomprehended money". But coming from my father who was brought up in the great depression and might be around to see another, I have a tendency to listen to someone that really has seen it happen.
You want to bring up threads that have been dead for almost a year and half,by people that are no longer here fine, talk to the ghosts of the past if it makes you feel better.
BTW Chrono,While your talking to ghosts,talk to those ghosts of the holocaust. But dont be surprised if they are not that friendly about your take on their situation.

stephinrazin: Ron Paul 2012. Every other candidate still treats us like retarded children. They will spoon feed us the same bs that they do every year. Do you really want Donald Trump or Sarah Palin in charge as the dollar collapses, or the third world war opens into another front?

StuckInTheSixties: The best shot chronology can take at me is to pull an insinuation out of the air that I have the hots for Sarah Palin. (She's not bad looking, really ...)

Pretty weak ammunition, chronology.

Of course, the best shot I can take at him is that every time he makes some shit up out of thin air, I document and provide evidence that he's a liar ... a lying liar that tells lies.

Not to mention other things like his denial of the holocaust, his professed respect for the Westboro Baptist Church, etc. etc.

chronology: Malo. I don't know why you are bringing up 'The Holocaust' (which Holocaust by the way? Rwanda? Uganda?).

Presumably you mean the alleged 'Holocaust in Germany during the second world war. Well yes Malo, I would ask the ghosts how people could be killed in the way you claim. According to people like you, hundreds of people were herded into 'gassing chambers' where they were poisoned with Zyklon D. Orderlies then went into the chambers and pulled the bodies outside (without wearing any protective clothing or respirators, that is impossible, they would be as dead as the people they were killing from Toxins still lingering in the chamber). And then these hundreds of bodies were piled up outside the 'Gas Chambers', and this must have been a crime that would astonish J Edgar Hoover at the time, because after examining hundreds of corpses, American Doctors never found a single dead body killed by any 'Gas' of any kind, and were never photographed once by American Spy Planes that flew hundreds of missions over places like Auschwitz. People like you say these 'Gassing Sessions' went on at least 6 times a day (they would have to to come anywhere near the insane numbers of people you say were killed). And the Red Cross visitors to Auschwitz, (yes the Red Cross visited that Camp and others once a week), either were so incompetent, or corrupt, they missed all this killing and never reported it.

So what are we left with Malo? A method of killing we know was impossible. American Spy Plane Photographs that show nothing. Red Cross visitors to Concentration Camps who never reported one single case of mass killing. But Malo, you will tell me we have photographs of heaps of dead Prisoners being bulldozed into mass graves. Yes Malo, those people died when Britain was running Belson, they 'all' died after the SS stopped administering the Camp. Would anyone seriously condemn Britain for the deaths of those poor people? no of course not, and all I am saying is you cannot condemn Germany for most of the deaths in those Camps either.

Like I said to a Guy on the web last week. Japanese Americans placed in Concentration Camps were well treated and released by American Authorities after the war. What would have have happened to those Japanese Americans if America had been carpet bombed with millions of tons of bombs, America ripped apart in Railroads and Roads so food could not be delivered to those Camps? Would America be an 'Evil Country'? No, neither was Germany.

Wampum6: Chrono. As usual, you are full of s#@t like a baby robin!

StuckInTheSixties: "Japanese Americans placed in Concentration Camps were well treated and released by American Authorities after the war. What would have have happened to those Japanese Americans if America had been carpet bombed with millions of tons of bombs, America ripped apart in Railroads and Roads so food could not be delivered to those Camps? Would America be an 'Evil Country'? No, neither was Germany."

You're a holocaust denier and a history revisionist.

It's absurd to compare the interned Japanese with the Jews and other ethnic, political, and social prisoners of the Nazis. They were used as slave laborers, medical experiment guinea pigs, etc. for years before the USA entered the war. They were rounded up, robbed of all possessions solely for the enrichment of Nazi party leaders, and stuffed into slave labor camps.

While the internment of Japanese was certainly a low point in American history, trying to make that comparison is revolting. You're excusing the Nazi crimes against humanity because they were "carpet bombed" while ignoring that their country was destroyed because they started those wars and were attempting to enslave their half of the world,

Man, you're one disgusting, sick, perverted a#z&%zy.

davidk14: .

Chrono amazingly said:

Malo. Never knew Mr Flashes Threads were 'dead' and had become a 'none person'. Strange, he was a dedicated Conspiracy Theorist. Usual BS from you about Economics, like David, it never fails to amaze people how you two miscomprehended Money. Am not even going to waist my time any more on addressing the Kindergarten level you and David live on in Economics. I tried to explain to David one time that the U.S. could actually make huge profits off these 'debts' like it did with the Chrysler Bail Out.

And then Chrono said:
Presumably you mean the alleged 'Holocaust in Germany during the second world war.


David responds:

First, regarding economics you stupid moron, do you realize that if you completely confiscated the entire wealth of the so called wealthy of the US ($250k and over), it would equal approximately 780 billion dollars. That is less than the over spending deficit for 2011. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when posting your thoughts about the US economy much less any other economy.

Second, you said ‘alleged holocaust in Germany’? Nobody in their sane and right mind thinks or believes that the holocaust was “alleged”. Therefore anything that you might say here on this thread or any other thread about any subject will not be taken seriously, not by me.

I hope nobody falls for your insanity.

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Malobear: Chrono, I am going to point to you to a thread about a man that was in Auschwitz concentration camp.
http://www.wireclub.com/Forums/ViewTopic.aspx?ForumId=647371&ParentId=1227763
I really do not expect you to see this thread as I do not expect that you would even spend the time to read these things. But here is one of his stories. A jewish lady standing in the processing line also has a baby in her arms. The baby starts to cry and one of the SS soilders tells her to shut the baby up. The woman can not quite the baby,so the SS guy comes over and crushs the babys skull in the womans arms. Real nice guy huh Chrono. A guy you would love to have living next door,huh Chrono.
As far as your gas chamber theory,first Chrono, the Nazis never went into those chambers to empty bodies,the prisoners did. But hey, if a couple fell out doing their chores,too bad. To the Nazis they were either Jews or Jew lovers or freaks who did not deserve to live,right Chrono.
But your sorry ass will try to make any excuse rather than face the truth.

chronology: Malo. You have done what you always do. Neatly sidestepped the points I raised. Normally I let you off the hook, but this time I am going to repeat those points and require you answer them.

Why, if all these people were stood in long lines outside Gas Houses were they never once photographed by American Pilots flying reconnaissance flights over Auschwitz?

Why did the Red Cross Inspectors never once see any such activities as Mass Gassing's when they visited those Camps on their weekly Inspections?

Your comment about Gas Chambers is as uninformed as everyone else's; 'who cares if a few prisoner helpers die'. Malo those Buildings, (according to you) were filled with Toxic Gas that would take days to clear, the people gassed would also be impregnated with Toxic Gas and would have to be handled with Protective clothing for days after being killed in such a manner. 'Everyone' who went even near those Gas Buildings would killed within minutes, and everyone who even stood amongst a heap of such dead bodies outside would be killed.

Your statement about the woman and her child can be matched with statements made by Jewish survivors of the Camps. A leading Propagandist of the Holocaust was nursed back to health by SS Guards in a Camp Hospital. He is alive today thanks to the care he received.

I again ask you. What would have happened to the tens of thousands of Japanese Americans held in Camps if Americas Infra Structure had been obliterated like Germany's was.

Malo. The State of Israel recently placed on trial a man called 'Ivan The Terrible'. Witness after witness came forth in Court to testify that the man was definitely Ivan. They wept, they cried as they described his cruelty and desperate acts of malice. However, the Israeli's had to accept that the man was not Ivan after they had established he was somewhere else at the time of the alleged crimes. Witnesses are often mistaken.

American Servicemen say they saw scenes of they will never forget when they entered the Camps in 1945. But New York Firefighters and Police Officers also say they saw incidents during 911 which 'proove' (to them) that the U.S. Government was involved in the atrocity. We know the Fire Fighters and Police Officers are mistaken, who can blame them? were not the American Service men also mistaken in what they interprited in the events they witnessed?. Come on Malo, no side stepping.

StuckInTheSixties: Don't you feel all slimy and filthy when you post pathetic gutter sewage like this?

The inside of your head must be a scary place.

Malobear: Chrono says:"Why, if all these people were stood in long lines outside Gas Houses were they never once photographed by American Pilots flying reconnaissance flights over Auschwitz?"
gotcha on this ol boy. My father flew missions on B-17s based out of England Chrono Missions were done or not all based on weather conditions. Whole missions were scraped all because of cloud cover. You think for one second the Nazis Luftwaffe would let any level reconnaissance flights over Auschwitz? You obvisously dont know what the hell your talking about.

Chrono says:"Why did the Red Cross Inspectors never once see any such activities as Mass Gassing's when they visited those Camps on their weekly Inspections?
WTF,you think the Nazis are going to send out a f***king invitation to the Red Cross. Come see our concentration camp in full action? If you really believe this,then you would also believe Iran would come totally clean about their Nuclear program to inspectors.You are Coo-Coo.
Edit: I had to edit this because of being at work.
You are one sick man Chrono.

davidk14: .

The following youtube.com video is very rough and minors need to be monitored if watching it. This is a film from the FDR presidential library regarding the holocaust. It is one hour long.





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chronology: Malo. Typical, always the 'attack mode' when you realise you cannot answer a question. B17s well there is a strange air craft to use for Spy Runs, they were not used in Spy Flights, and yes American Recon Pilots flew hundreds of flights over Auschwitz and photographed? not one single dead body, despite American Spy Cameras being so sharp and clear, people can actually be identified standing up.

And you obviously do not want to discuss the Red Cross visits to Auschwitz, yes they did visit, every week and found no mass killings at all.

And you say nothing about the fantastic method of Gassing inmates at Auschwitz? why is that Malo? because you know it is Bull, 100pc Bull. When you try and fit the lying reports of Gassing into practical reality it is impossible because you could never carry out such a system. Everyone, including the people working the 'Gas Chambers' would be dead. In fact, the Camp would look like Jones Town with people lieing everywhere, higgly piggdly.

Admit it Malo. You are wrong.

And David, save us the Movies hur? The Germans made a Movie just as real as yours about how they invaded Britain. Actually, they never got around to invading Britain, but why spoil a good story hur?

A big thank you to Rod for allowing this subject to be discussed here on Wire.

davidk14: .

Chrono, you are a very, very disturbed mentally ill person. I would use the word man, but you are not. The eye witness survivors of the camps, the documentation by the SS, the hard physical facts, and the visual documentation are undisputable. You obviously did not watch the video or any other of the video’s documenting the slaughter of millions, 10’s of millions of human beings by the Nazi’s. Your sense of reality is compromised and anything you say about anything is also compromised. You are delusional.

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Malobear: I never said B-17s were used for "Spy runs" They were high altitude bombers. For your information Chrono,most of their intel for bombing came from the ground genus,not these supposed reconnaissance flights you like to fantasize about. And as far as using American Pilots flying reconnaissance flights over Auschwitz or any part of Germany. Do you seriously think a plane in broad daylight was going to fly above Germany and the Nazis Luftwaffe not know it Chrono? And how do you think these pictures were going to be taken from a plane in the air with fighters dead on their ass Chrono. your Coo-Coo.

davidk14: .

Malo,

Chrono is delusional. The nazi death machine was impeccable. Dead bodies stacked like cordwood didn't happen until the end of the war. Even if pictures were taken from 30,000 feet with the technology of the day they would not show what was going on at the over 300 death camps. The military was trying to win a war and not concerned at the time with the so called "labor camps". That's why Eisenhower and his generals were so disturbed at what he saw once the military entered the camps. Again, it is not worth your time responding to him. Chrono is mentally ill and delusional and should be treated as such.

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Malobear: David remember,Chrono is a big David Duke Fanboy. If you ever been to his site,you can see where the ill-mind gets some of his info from. But even David Duke does not claim its the gospel truth. Its just the normal add-ons by you know who.

StuckInTheSixties: Jeezus ...

Besides the obvious perverted holocaust denying, chronology demonstrates a total lack of understanding of just what was going on in Central Europe in World War II, and a breathtaking lack of knowledge of the Allied air war. The very idea of "recon flights" deep into Central Germany is just idiocy.

The only "recon flights" ever conducted in the European theatre came very late in the war, only during that last few months, and those were conducted by Piper Cubs spotting targets for artillery directly over the front lines. Right up to the day that Germany capitualated, any Allied aircraft flying deep into Germany, where the slave labor and death camps were located, were being savaged by German anti-aircraft batteries. The only way an Allied plane could get anywhere close to one of those camps would be if the ground troops below were overunning the area and the German AAA had been pulled back deeper into Germany, and the area abandoned by retreating German troops. Nothing like that happened until the very last stages of the war. The Siegfried Line wasn't even crossed until February of 1945, and for the next month and a half, the Germans fought tenaciously for their homeland, making the American soldiers pay a horribly expensive price for every foot gained. Not until March were they able to get across the Rhine, and not until April was the Army able to begin the final push into the heart of Germany where those camps were located. The idea of "recon flights" is purely fantasy, the same sort of bullshit you constantly invent.

Not only that, but the photographic technology of the times were very crude, and no way could produce the kind of photos in the circumstances you describe.

If, as you say, "hundreds" of recon flights were made over Auschwitz, resulting in "sharp and clear" photos where "people can actually be identified standing up," then let's see them. Tell us where you saw these fictional photographs. Give us the title of a book, or a website, or any other place you care to mention where we can see these "recon flight" photographs. Or just provide any sort of reference to anything whatsoever that provides descriptions of what you describe.

Dude, you constantly just make shit up. And you deny the holocaust. Now you're combining those two things.

StuckInTheSixties: Hmmm ... I revisited this thread ... cough cough ... "conversation" ... because it was listed as a "Featured Conversation," I vaguely remembered it, and wondered why it was featured. I notice now that on this thread I referred to chronology as a "sick fuck" (which he is). But I also notice that after the shift over to New Wireclub, profanities like "fuck" have been censored by converting them into something like !@#$% or whatever. But I'm pretty sure that my use of the word "fuck" here will probably remain uncensored. Let's click "Post" and find out ...