Is the United States a Police State?

XFixYourBrainX: The United States is always involved with world affairs concerning conflict and order among themasses. The United States is so involved with politics, government, corruption, intelligence, support, etc. It seems the US offers its helping hand in many affairs, while most countries choose to ignore other countries affairs if its a dictator murdering their people to the liberation of peoples, the US is there to aid. Sometimes people end up hating the US for interfering, but the bullies will always know the United States is there to defend the ones that can't defend themselves.

chronology:

Outbackjack: What a pile of shit!

"It seems the US offers its helping hand in many affairs"

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

XFixYourBrainX: Why do you think its a pile of shit dirty mouth level zero

davidk14: .

Outback must be aware of the $Billions$ of US taxpayers dollars that are spent around the world through the US Department of State, the programs of the USAID.

For example regarding agriculture:

USAID’s approach (From the USAID website)

USAID has a long history of technical leadership in international agricultural development by drawing upon the expertise of U.S. universities, industry, non-governmental and private voluntary organizations, multilateral development partners, and its own technical staff. USAID supports country-driven strategies and invests in strengthening both public and private institutions that underpin growth of the agricultural sector. The Agency works throughout the sector, from developing improved seeds and management practices to strengthening the industries along the agricultural value chain. USAID is scaling-up a comprehensive approach to agriculture by:

• Developing agricultural markets, trade, and finance
• Promoting food and nutritional security
• Funding collaborative science and technology research efforts
• Organizing volunteer technical assistance and extension services
• Fostering support for biotechnology-related decisions and access
• Developing and supporting sound programs for livestock and sustainable agriculture


This is just one of the many programs the US invests taxpayer money to better the lives of million if not billions of people around the world.



For more information, which Outback should read so as to be aware of these programs which aid millions of people around the world, go to

Usaid.gov

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XFixYourBrainX: Can I assume outbackjack is an enormous ass, by what state of mind he is in. Especially callng the US a pile of shit.

oooREDEYEooo:

'BLOOD MONEY'

"Just think how the figures would be if America did not host and initiate fake wars...40 trillion in debt...it's AAA rating in question as like it's credibility these days...so much freedom...not to mention the Holy Defence Budget...

'Budget for 2010' - Wikipedia !

For the 2010 fiscal year, the president's base budget of the Department of spending on "overseas contingency operations" brings the sum to $663.8 billion.[1][2]

When the budget was signed into law on October 28, 2009, the final size of the Department of Defense's budget was $680 billion, $16 billion more than President Obama had requested.[3] An additional $37 billion supplemental bill to support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was expected to pass in the spring of 2010, but has been delayed by the House of Representatives after passing the Senate.[4][5]

...now that is one deadly big pile of excrement and/or colloquially...SHIT"...!...

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XFixYourBrainX: We really do need to lay off the wars for awhile. I can see the same thing happening in Libya where as we liberated part of korea and now there is a north and south korea. Something similar will happen in Libya I assume.

We are currently working on our debt crisis. Things will be under way soon in the US.

Comrade_: Pokerman I understand you are a young man and proud of your country. I'm not bashing your country but the Government of the US has done some very hateful things for the sake of carrying out their own interest, both in the past and I'm sure it'll extend into the future.
Whether American or not, these are the truths of that Government, as all politicians. There is good & bad.

XFixYourBrainX: I can only assume the US has done a few unjustifiable political campaigns, for the sake of what I may never know. I have no proof if they ever do anything wrong in the world, but I can't be naive to think the US is completely good. Ha, that's hilarious to think the US is completely good. I myself understand that we do our best for what is right, but for political purposes to make gain for the US. I cannot entirely pick one political party over the other, because both sides have negatives to them. I guess pick the political party with less narcissistic selfish power grabbers.

IamEggman: For a start you could read up on U.S involvement in central and south America.

chronology: Egg. Just interested in your views on this. You say 'American involvement' in Latin America. Do you mean this entirely, or in terms of the Cold War period? or American policy historically towards Latin America? Both the U.S.S.R and United States were not fussy how they dealt with problems in their own back yards during the Cold War. The Soviets crushed the Czech Spring, the Americans Drop Kicked away Governments they saw as hostile in Latin America. But that was the 'Cold War Culture' not 'America'. Just interested in how you see this.

oooREDEYEooo: 'MADE IN CHINA'






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Sarcastic Dots: It's an empire. "Police state" seems to dance around the issue of imperialism, as if it's a bad word... It's not.

XFixYourBrainX: Chronology you make a good point, but in reference to what you said is this happening today with America in Latin America?

The United States is a true machiavellian state.

devilsAdvocate2: Poker man there is a big difference between being nationalistic (proud of where you are from ) and blind. this argument is allays full of people throwing accusations and insults towards a wide group such as the Americans or the Communists etc. this leads to anger and division which is the aim of not governments or the vast majority of the people within ANY country. You have to admit that in most country's now the governments are just puppets to the wants and needs of the big banking families with a specific ajenda.real truth and not truth learned from a starting point of ignorance and bigotry is what we all need. I personaly love America and the multicultural people who make it up, BUT and it is a BIG BUT right now you are permitting a few very bad apple blind you to the truth of what they are doing (where are all your real heros gone)

XFixYourBrainX: devilsAdvocate2 what is the point your making?

devilsAdvocate2: the US is there to aid. Sometimes people end up hating the US for interfering, but the bullies will always know the United States is there to defend the ones that can't defend themselves.


Honestly if you are capable of making a statement like this, i don't think you will ever get the point i am will always try to make.

XFixYourBrainX: I would like to hear your point.

FogofWar: Hey David; is that the same USAID that has been cooperating with Israel to provide water and electricity to the people of Palestine that outbackjack whines about being oppressed by the US and Israel?

Redeye said: "Just think how the figures would be if America did not host and initiate fake wars."

You mean the figures like the over 3000 innocent lives killed during 9/11; or figures like the school children being used as bombs to stop girls from going to school in Afghanistan?


"I'm not bashing your country but the Government of the US has done some very hateful things for the sake of carrying out their own interest, both in the past and I'm sure it'll extend into the future.
Whether American or not, these are the truths of that Government, as all politicians. There is good & bad."

It is ironic that you choose to focus entirely on the negative caveman. For all your whining of how terrible the US is for what they do in other countries; one cannot help but wonder how much you have invested into feeding starving African children; setting up refugee camps for Palestinians; providing security forces for innocent people against radical religious extremists that you deny? One cannot help but wonder.

devilsAdvocate2 said:"You have to admit that in most country's now the governments are just puppets to the wants and needs of the big banking families with a specific agenda."

Now? As opposed to the pure governments of; say…Rome????


I cannot; for the life of me understand why people have this conception that modern politics is corrupt; and that in the old world it was pure. It always makes me laugh. Having been educated in history; let me tell you it doesn't take a lot of in depth research to realize the reality of political history: Politicians have ALWAYS; I cannot stress this enough; ALWAYS been influenced by the wealthy (aristocrats if you will). In fact; in older societies that didn't have free elections; this can be seen even more. All-in-all; if one studies into the history of politics; he can not only see a trend of this always occurring; but he can also see that there is far less today than in most times in history. Our democratic cultures afford the common people far more input into society than ever before.

Comrade_: and the dancing ballerina has arrived to demand her usual attention.
I say things as I see it, if a Government has done wrong I don't sweep it under the carpet or try to make excuses like your good-self. It's good to be aware of politics. And concerning what I said, if you disagree then fine go ahead, but I see you could come up with nothing but a personal attack rather than to find fault in what I typed to Pokerman.

Carry on Fog...this is probably the most attention you get in your life.

chronology: Pokerman. The U.S. today seems not so much 'Machievelian' as simply partisan in it's relationship with Latin America. Look at the vitriolic attacks on Mr Obama and the Dem's by the Right in the States, identical to the abuse they hurl at Liberal Governments in Latin America. The most common misconception with most folks today who chriticise America in it's dealings with Latin America is that they are failing to remember that the American Policies they condemn were Policies enacted against a Cold War with the U.S.S.R. If you look at American Policy towards Latin America dispashionately, you see Washington was no more reprehensible than the U.S.S.R. during the Cold War. Today, as said Washington, (or Right Wingers like David14k) spew just as much hatred at 'Commies' in Venezueler as they do in the White House.

XFixYourBrainX: devilsAdvocate2 says, "Poker man there is a big difference between being nationalistic (proud of where you are from ) and blind."

Tell me the difference between being nationalistic and blindness.

devilaAdvocate2 says, "this argument is allays full of people throwing accusations and insults towards a wide group such as the Americans or the Communists etc. this leads to anger and division which is the aim of not governments or the vast majority of the people within ANY country."

America is the greatest country in the world, as a matter of fact I live in the USA, but don't be so naive to think the United States is purely good. Yes there are good and bad politician's, I guess only choose the less narcissistic power grabbers, but there are bad sides to every good politician so no matter who you choose they are technically bad in some way.

"The aim of not governments?" Uhhh what?

devilsAdvocate2 says, "You have to admit that in most country's now the governments are just puppets to the wants and needs of the big banking families with a specific ajenda."

You don't know what your talking about exactly, so ill point you in the right direction.
You probably mean many of the world's most economically rich and powerful countries are controlled by continued influenced propaganda on the politicians.

XFixYourBrainX: devilsAdvocate2 says, "real truth and not truth learned from a starting point of ignorance and bigotry is what we all need. I personaly love America and the multicultural people who make it up, BUT and it is a BIG BUT right now you are permitting a few very bad apple blind you to the truth of what they are doing (where are all your real heros gone)"

Don't you mean learning factual knowledge from a young age can prepare us all in the world to have better discernment of a lie. I would assume most people can judge for themselves what the difference is between a lie and the truth. If not then we go seeking after knowledge to find our way to the truth, and discussing topics like this will drive us to investigate into information and knowledge to gain a better understanding into the world of politics.

FogofWar: Caveman said: "I say things as I see it, if a Government has done wrong I don't sweep it under the carpet or try to make excuses like your good-self."

"The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything." -Theodore Roosevelt.

The Canadian Forces have contributed to the reconstruction of over 10,000 schools across Afghanistan; and have aided in training and equipping hundreds of thousands of medical staff for the public. What have you done for these people caveman? If you are too scared to get your hands dirty; then you have no right to criticize those who do.

Caveman said: "And concerning what I said, if you disagree then fine go ahead, but I see you could come up with nothing but a personal attack rather than to find fault in what I typed to Pokerman."


Caveman said two sentences prior: "and the dancing ballerina has arrived to demand her usual attention."

I see you are back to making hypocritical statements.



Caveman said: "And concerning what I said, if you disagree then fine go ahead, but I see you could come up with nothing but a personal attack rather than to find fault in what I typed to Pokerman.

Carry on Fog...this is probably the most attention you get in your life."

I rest my case.

XFixYourBrainX: TheCaveman says, "Pokerman I understand you are a young man and proud of your country. I'm not bashing your country but the Government of the US has done some very hateful things for the sake of carrying out their own interest, both in the past and I'm sure it'll extend into the future. Whether American or not, these are the truths of that Government, as all politicians. There is good & bad."

I understand what your saying, because we all know there are good and bad politicians. I'm not taking offense, because there is nothing to take offense against by what you say. The United States government offers much help to many countries in need of it, and sometimes negative consequences happen. But the odds have to be weighed in every situation. Sometimes a situation will be decided upon right or wrong.