Its only S*xist when men do it (Page 3)

XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: Martin Luther King Jr, King is a heroic leader in the history of modern
American liberalism. King delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech. There, he expanded American values to include the vision of a COLOR BLIND SOCIETY.

Caramel lady says, "Lol which Black people did Hitler talk to the parents of the mixed race children"

Racists acknowledge color and race difference. Fact!

Non-racists don't mention racism or color difference. Fact!

Discrimination is the cognitive and sensory capacity or ability to see fine distinctions and perceive differences between objects, subjects, and concepts.
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Pokerman but you ignored what fog of war had to say initially on race. U guys proper have a hard on for me figuratively speaking and please what's with the colour blindness BS the real world don't work like. That the idealist world we all wish to live in. I thought you were a right wing conservative like fog of war not a liberal. And yes you both where calling me stupid, angry and racist that abusive and bullying. Well proud of yourself. blessing to you both my brothers
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Please tell that to the some tea party members, the Republican party who where very disrespectful of Obama at first not like all the other president p.s im not a fan of his. . Please also tell employers, governments, people on y**** post, the media who always mention race when it involves crime, hollywood, the music industry i hate rappers of all races using the N word the list goes on. When you done all this please get back to me. love and peace
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: Martin Luther King Jr, King is a heroic leader in the history of modern American liberalism. King delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech. There, he expanded American values to include the vision of a COLOR BLIND SOCIETY.

Caramel lady says, "Lol which Black people did Hitler talk to the parents of the mixed race children"

Racists acknowledge color and race difference. Fact!

Non-racists don't mention racism or color difference. Fact!

Discrimination is the cognitive and sensory capacity or ability to see fine distinctions and perceive differences between objects, subjects, and concepts.

You can't ignore this.
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caramel lady
caramel lady: What you on about, if people of all races didn't acknowledged colour what's with sun tanning or bleaching. I look at my skin I can see brown i cant be blind to it, madness. Living in a colour blind world i think the ancient managed it. less focus on race but lets hope things are different for our children. blessings
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caramel lady
caramel lady: But you continue to ignore what points i make and what fog of war your sparring partner was saying. Everyone acknowledged race we are conditoned to do so from childhood. Especially people make you feel different some people don't consider me english or British even though im born here because of the colour of my skin. I dont agree with your statement.
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: Caramel lady says, "Lol which Black people did Hitler talk to the parents of the mixed race children"

Racists acknowledge color and race difference. Fact!

Non-racists don't mention racism or color difference. Fact!

You mentioned 'black' and 'race'

Its not my statement,

http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=discrimination+&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
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caramel lady
caramel lady: THIS IS WHAT RACISM MEANS: fact
n noun
1 the belief that each race or ethnic group possesses specific characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or superior to another such group.
2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups based on such a belief.


That the English Oxford dictionary on what the meaning of racism if your trying to be smart

Doesnt mentioned that it talk about race then your racist, is this from your own writings please tell the book shop to go to or do you have any university work you can send be thats be published on the subject.
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: dis·crim·i·na·tion

- noun
1. act or instance of discriminating
2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit
3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment

Source: Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2011.
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Well that what I just post lol, to mention race doesn't not make you racist but what you have posted is what makes a person racist. If someone uses against you or for you benefit. I mentioned race i did not favour or speak out against anyone. I'm not that ignorant to have experienced sexism and racism in my life to then do that to someone else. I even worked alongside a racist once and i actually got on with her professionally speaking inside the building of course. That stop outside and she wast overt either.

I have not said anything but mentioned race and fog of war who immediately got his knickers in a twist and then you got on the I Hate You bandwagon with him. Please can we leave on a good note. If i said i think i better i said I had a better perceptive through my experiences of discrimination but fog of war is blinded by some new found hatred of me.

This negative vibes not good for me considering i ve just graduated and still looking a job which can be a bit depressing especially with the bad economy all the over the EU thats the only thing messing with my emotions.

I hope we are all good sure we wont be friends. but cool yeah
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davidk14
davidk14: .

caramel lady...hope you find a job soon. Finding a good job is also hard here in the US.

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introspec
introspec: Negative on the 'hard on' for caramel...............lol..........
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Thank you David and the other guy I said figuratively speaking thanks Mr Brad Pitt anyway lol

This post is about sexism so let me say something on topic, do you believe that the physical and biological functions of women and men make us different but equal? Do men have periods, have pain in their stomach. spend over £100 a year on product for that, do they get PMT, Do men get pregnant( not that butch lesbian man person who gave birth) do men have menopause and is the women ability to give birth give women the true power in the world? your not seeing your kids im sure many a man has heard that and we have the choice if we want the baby or not.

The reason I would not say that I am not a feminist is that I believe women biology does govern our identity where as feminist think the opposite. For example if women have children and they are the main care giver they should know how to cook. Plus the fact that women still use their sexuality (possibly through socialisatation) for their own gain means we are not the victim we sometimes claim to be even though some men like that you know the knight in shine amour issue. How many female serial killers v male serial killers are there, even though men do kill both sexes but especially women.

Do you know the term de feminisation of men i.e new man stuff, metrosexual and man make up- is that equality???. Are men and women equal, the hate that fog of war had to me would mean if this was in the real world I would take myself away as physical I am a petite, short, slim women and let say he is 6 ft something and 13 stones, I would have no chance one on one unless i had something to defend myself with. Is this the problem do women want to be equal to men i.e (female on male domestic violence and the men don't hit women but we can hit you. But if I hit a large man as a small women it would be like I just tapped him versa verse I probably be dead. But still most domestic violence and sexual violence is still mainly man on woman even though it is changing ( we called it the ladette culture, drinking like the lads, shagging like the lads, fighting like the lads) Is it as simple as it is complex as it seems? Men are Mars and women from Venus i think lol
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: Caremel lady the shit you say may fly in Britain, but it sure as in hell won't fly here in the United States. People both black, white, Hispanic, religious, men and women, and even teenage children would laugh at the bigotry you spill out constantly. You would be ignored by many here in the United States by what you say. Because nobody cares about race, gender, ethnicity or anything of the sort, because great men like Martin Luther king Jr straightened these things out many years ago. And its just not mentioned by people. So you can drag others into your self interest in race, gender and equality shit that you have mentioned multiple times in not just this thread, but in several other threads. Only a person so obsessed with race, gender, etc is almost always known here in the United States as a trouble maker, as we call it. So I'm done with your total incompetent behavioral ignorance towards what you think is racial, sexist, and gender inequalities, its your opinion, and in the great United States of America I pronounce you caremel lady to be stupid beyond recognition, and its not what you as one person thinks, as far as I see it anything that you have put on this website has been bloody directly discriminatory in the manners and respect that you don't have of anyone else's opinions.

Now I say good day to you childish immature person you are!
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Pokeman why the hatred for me your comments are bulling and verbally abusive. In america nobody cares about race ok you believe what you want to believe. So why after Obama was elected president did the membership to white supremacy groups increased and can there be white supremacy groups in the first place according to your logic nobody cares about race in America (doh)so please find a member of the KKK and tell them that lol and see how far you go there.

Your purposely being ignorant to prove a invalid point. Furthermore, your the one who stupid as you have complete dismissed what I said and what to continue to abuse me and shout insults at me. I would guess that you have serious issues yourself, you talk about anybody who talk about race is a trouble maker in America I thought you had freedom of speech there. Anyway I have nothing to prove to you,

I saw a post where you seem to have issues with gay people, and seek to provoke distrusts of gays,>>>Pokerman taken from who spreads AIDS post Pokerman says>>>"Those gays don't care if they have hiv, nor do they care if they spread HIV to others. If they cared they wouldn't have s&* with HIV in their system. Gays think of themselves only and have no respect of others." Go and say that on the street of America and I bet you you would get arrested. Yet again showing that you are the one who who has issues. Why are you singling at one group of people? Are all gays the same, can you base the actions of your gay neighbour on all gays and why mentions gays like you said there's no distinction on race, gender and sexuality but there you are making distinction.

All the things you accuse me of your doing yourself. Think about it. Plus have you gone into the Forum games where I regularly post, or the Movie section, The music section, Tv shows section, general chat, the Religion section,Philosophy section (where you replied to my post about illunmanti where did i mention race there) self help section or the music section where do I mention race on any of does. I think there some reverse psychology going on. So stop lie on my name that libellous.

Please I will report you, if you continue with your threaten, bullying and hate filled post to me. Have a nice day
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introspec
introspec: Caramel, your postings parallel those of a bipolar personality with paranoid overlay....You need psychiatric help.........seriously....

Good luck..................
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caramel lady
caramel lady: The only thing i am is stressed from being a unemployed graduate.Thanks for your so called concern anyway
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introspec
introspec: Cara, thanks for IM, but I comment only in public........

Let's see: You whined bitterly about biology of female...are virulently hung up on racism (everywhere), inject self into objective discussion, insinuate lack of work as discrimination, ramble at length using questionable syntax, threaten 'to report' those who disagree..............And, you wonder why unemployed?

Why not check with psychologist or psychiatrist and see if body chemicals are influencing self? Wish you well........
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Whatever man. I don't need your negative thanks and your blind ignorance to others actions and that's saying alot. Plus where did I mention that being unemployed has anything to do with discrimination (its the u.k economy) I am stressed about being unemployed and being insulted and named called by people like you doesn't help. Take care and keep your so called concern for yourself.
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XFixYourBrainX
XFixYourBrainX: Caramel lady, you choose to appear in these threads. You choose to read in these threads and listen to what we have to say, and you can choose to not listen by not reading this thread.
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Comrade_
Comrade_: Can you all just drop that and go back to the topic of the original poster.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Thank you Caveman
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FogofWar
FogofWar: Caramel lady: "Pokerman but you ignored what fog of war had to say initially on race."

FogofWar initial post in this forum: "I don't think it's just a case of it being sexist if men do it. I think it's a case of humans have a tendency to put their 'liberties' before everyone else. Some of the most racist people I have ever met were members of ethnic minorities who hate all white people because they are 'racist'. We can see this in examples of almost all discrimination:

Black Panthers movement uses racism to hate 'racism'.

The Bloc Quebecois fights for French rights in Canada; while taking away the rights on English speaking people in Quebec. They demanded Ottawa pass a bill forcing all provinces in Canada to have French first on all road signs; then English; yet all the while they were fining people in Quebec for putting English on their signs.

Women's rights movements fight for equal rights by demanding that they get chosen over men in same job opportunities; and even are eligible to gain possessions from men in divorce; when men are not afforded the same opportunities.

Native American movements in Canada fight for equal treatment; while demanding treaty cheques; housing, cars; and not to have to follow the gaming and fisheries laws, and refuse to pay taxes; while demanding the services afforded to taxpayers at the expense of said taxes.

...It seems almost all 'equal rights' movements fight for 'equality' by expecting their side to have superior treatment. Ahh...we humans are a strange bunch hey?"

Nowhere in my post was the word "reverse" even used; let alone the terms 'Reverse racism' or 'Reverse discrimination', or anything of the sort. My initial post was in regard to sexism; and the comparison of ALL forms of discrimination; coming from human nature and our ultimate instinct to put the needs of ourselves before others. Perhaps you misunderstood something; or perhaps you were simply looking to start a debate on whose knowledge of racism is superior. Quite frankly; either way; I do not care. My initial statement demonstrates that it is NOT only a case of sexism if men do it; but a case of feminist movements not caring about equality; in the same sense as any 'equity' movement; be it sexism; race; religion; ethnicity; cultural; sexual orientation, or any other means of discrimination because their ultimate goal is the better treatment over the other side (be they the majority or the minority) to make them feel like they have made up for the hardships in which 'their people' had to endure.

Nowhere did I make mention of any term reserved specifically for white people; and no where did I make reference that such racism directed at the majority is different than the racism directed at a minority. I simply acknowledged that it exists; and is more often than not; in our attempt to make sure we do not offend anyone; overlooked. Our culture today here in Canada is one of 'we must treat the minority better; bend over backwards to make them happy; and sacrifice our rights; in order to not be seen as a racist.' It matters not what race you are. In my neighbourhood; people are predominantly Somali; so should they attempt to force their views upon me; it would be deemed as the majority discriminating against the minority. In such a case; I can play the minority role in our neighbourhood; and make people feel guilty for not bending over backwards to give me what I want.


Caramel Lady: "and please what's with the colour blindness BS the real world don't work like."
It was an idea of Martin Luther King's.

Caramel Lady: "I thought you were a right wing conservative like fog of war not a liberal."
Like I have said; if you wish to label me based on your opinion; then do take the time to form an opinion based on truth. You clearly know nothing of Canadian politics; and your ignorance does not make your points more valid.
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FogofWar
FogofWar: Caramel Lady: "and yes you both where calling me stupid, angry and racist that abusive and bullying."

And you in turn were calling me racist based on words that I never used; and are attempting to label me according to political affiliation; despite having not even a slight idea of what Canadian politics is; let alone my affiliation in regards to it. I may be a right wing conservative in Canada; but according to the political scale; I would sit more on the side of a socialist (not communist; socialist) on many subjects. Do take the time to educate yourself before making ridiculously foolish judgements on people.

Caramel Lady: "the Republican party who where very disrespectful of Obama at first not like all the other president p.s im not a fan of his."

The republicans were 'disrespectful' to Obama for the reasons he is showing now. Look what he has done. It had nothing to do with race; why would you make it out to be? US politics are disrespectful towards each other all the time; this was not an isolated case based on his race. There are members of the Republican party that are black as well.

"What you on about, if people of all races didn't acknowledged colour what's with sun tanning or bleaching."

Sun tanning covers blemishes in the skin. This is often why women tan. The bronze look that is sexually appealing has nothing to do with race; and everything to do with culture. In our past; men who worked would be in the sun; and thus would tan. The image of a bronzed man with rippling muscles; was the sign of an alpha male in society; and thus; one women would seek as a mate. For women; it depends on the culture. Often servants saw little sun; and as such; pale skin was a sign of underclass. Certain cultures were the opposite. For example; in China; pale skin is considered more beautiful. This is because it demonstrates nobility (in that they were not worn by the sun from work); and it also makes it harder to hide blemishes. Therefore if a woman had pale skin; and no blemishes; it was because she was naturally fair skinned and naturally beautiful. This concept has nothing to do with race; and everything to do with cultural perspective based on primal instincts.

Caramel lady: "But you continue to ignore what points i make and what fog of war your sparring partner was saying."

It is you that is ignoring.

Caramel lady said: "Well that what I just post lol, to mention race doesn't not make you racist but what you have posted is what makes a person racist."

For someone who gets upset that people are quick to call her a racist; you sure do it often to others.

Caramel Lady said: "All the things you accuse me of your doing yourself."
As have you been caramel lady. I suggest that you take a look back at what I initially posted; and rethink it. You will see what I was saying; not what you THINK I was saying.

Caramel lady said in response to introspec statement of her discussions with others: "Whatever man. I don't need your negative thanks and your blind ignorance to others actions and that's saying a lot."

I believe that is exactly what introspec was getting at.
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caramel lady
caramel lady: Whatever Ive done with you guys
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