Its only S*xist when men do it (Page 4)

FogofWar
FogofWar: So Caramel lady; since you clearly misread; and/or misunderstood my initial post; I will reiterate the message I was getting across.

Yes; the man in the video does make valid points about sexism being a double standard; as is ALL discrimination. Whether it is racial, religious, ethnic, cultural, sexist, sexual orientation, or what not; the fact is that human beings have an instinct to protect themselves. This instinct leads us to be more concerned with ourselves than others. This instinct also leads us to be more apt to demand treatment over others. It is in our nature to expect better treatment than others; and that is what ALL, yes ALL; even the "equity acts" aimed at protecting "White people" caramel lady; seek to achieve.

As I initially said; I don't think it's just a case of it being sexist if men do it. I think it's a case of humans have a tendency to put their 'liberties' before everyone else. Every single equity movement on the planet serves one purpose; to separate their group from others in an attempt to gain equal treatment. However; isn't this still separating them?

In order to achieve a world in which no one is discriminative; we must remove all attempts to achieve 'equity'; as it serves only to separate us more.

As Martin Luther King Jr. said: "I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood."

...together.

You will never get rid of discrimination entirely; but we sure can do away with policies that create it.

How much tension do these equity acts create? How much jealousy is produced in one person who doesn't get a job he is more qualified for; because the other person is deemed more of a minority? How does this prevent that person from treating this 'more of a minority' as less? It doesn't.

Why the hatred amongst many Canadians to the Native American population? Because of the special treatment they get...it IS that simple.
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Kaiya_
Kaiya_: Your right and its not cool. I think we all haf to ask ourselfs what kind of company do we want to keep and turn off the mindlesnes. People just want to be intertained so yah and i have been in circles talking about men in this way but when you think about it its just kind of lame and those who seek this conversation are just weak minded people.
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: True that Kaiyas. Hopefully one day we can reach a level of equal respect- clearly, today is not that day
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Eric_Le_Rouge
Eric_Le_Rouge: This guy is right.
We should be treated as Human, not sex. The things thats make the difference between us and i think its the only thing, its the sex we have for sex purpose. All others things and subject concern both male and female. Brain doesn't have sex, it think about it but doesnt have one. Last things,
Its not because it is written thats it is real. News on Tv and Newspaper, they want you to be capture by them so you will return listening to them again and again. You always see a man killed on first page because its sell more. But woman also can be a killer but it sell less and its not acceptable kind of. Then they put commercial that make you want to buy things etc.... Its all about money. More watcher = more money.
Anyway lets not change the subject. Men's are not Superheros, we have feelings and emotions, they are some idiot and some brillant same things for woman. we are all egual, all colours and all sex. We are Human.
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Bumpa
Bumpa: This guy is not excessive at all. He is 100% correct, those female things laughing about a man being emasculated like that is sickening! I hesitate to even call those females human because it implies they are the same species as myself.
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Lucid
Lucid: OMG the guy in the vid is a pig and so is the OP for thinking its okay to talk about another human being like that
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LiptonCambell
LiptonCambell: Huh? He's outraged that some bitches are making fun of a guy being mutilated because he's male and they're female! Its sexism! Theres no two ways about it!

I admited he was very angry and excessive....but damnit, he IS justified.....what those women did is completely unacceptable
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Bumpa
Bumpa: Caramel Lady, you spout out the bullshit that has been expounded by feminists for decades. "Most domestic violence is man on woman".... Crap!
The World Health Organisation of UN recently (2009) published figures collected from all OECD countries and this stated clearly that domestic violence was the other way round. Female offenders outnumber male by almost 6 (5.87) to 1.

I agree with you that a small woman hitting a large man is unlikely to do a lot of harm but there are many other ways for a woman to hurt a man; weapons, poisons harming his kids etc.

Of course, there is still a reluctance on the part of some police to prosecute women for violence against males, it is usually treated as a bit of a joke. There is also a reluctance on the part of many men to report it due to embarrassment, shame and fear of further harm. So the UN figure is probably only the tip of the iceberg.
Much of what you say Caramel is good stuff and I agree with you but please get your facts right.
Cheers
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kathy_cool
kathy_cool: The line is hard to draw at times. But its true that certain things are not sexist when done by women as opposed to men.
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Philigirl20
Philigirl20: Y can't we all just get along??
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spiritualmaster
spiritualmaster: We cannot all get along because we do not live in a perfect world,
and never will .Yes their is women sexists and male chauvanists .

But most the majority of males and females do get along ,men love women and women love men on a large percentage

.As for the racist stuff in the thread Caramel Lady needs to get over the past .It seems racism seems to be a problem with her and she has clouded views but did like Caramel ladys views when she stuck to sexists the topic of the thread .

I actually thought it wasa very good point and liked her thoughts on the subject matter
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memberX
memberX: feminists are ugly and unsuccessful females.

Real lady would never argue with us, one will find the way to stay on top and at the same time remain under man.
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Bumpa
Bumpa: Not ALL feminists are fat and ugly, some are middle sized and ugly
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memberX
memberX: ...or divorced and failed.
(cause they want to be males in the house...loooooots of male miss balanced hormones there...mhm)
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Bumpa
Bumpa: that's quite possible X, whatever.... I think we've made the point they shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Iloveyou4evr
Iloveyou4evr: You can have sex in lots of different positions, but one of the most common and intimate ways is for the man to lie on top of the woman, so that they can kiss and cuddle while having sex
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memberX
memberX: ...bravo maestro.
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yjenny
yjenny: the guy although eccentric does have a valid point
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scifilover
scifilover: Woah I thought this was a sexist convo, guess it turned into something more
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xapim
xapim: its only sexiest when men do it ??? i give up what, fart,scratch and spit? rush into a burning building to carry out a six pack of bud light. or to cut there carot at the base in a quick hard powerfull force shoving completely through the carot into the cutting board with 100% slicing of the caort to where the rest fall off the edge of the cutting board into a bowl , and at the same time saying ta-dah,???
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the worst ever
the worst ever: One must be blamed, for both sides...thatstha way it is.
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valleypixie
valleypixie: I think franklin1950 makes a good point. Oppression may be likened to stretching a rubber band,when it is let go, it does not return immediately to it's relaxed state, rather it flings the opposite way first. Hopefully it will settle when men and women stop seeing each other as being on opposite sides.

Forgive us boys - there is still a lot of sexual inequality in the world, democracy may have been invented in 300BC, but women only got the vote 100(ish) years ago,and the UN only recognised women's suffrage in 1979!
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the worst ever
the worst ever: Yes, girls...and we can see "today" the results of your voting !

The world has never been so sick violent and egoistic.
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valleypixie
valleypixie: And still run by men.
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