AYATOLLAH: Kill all Jews, Annihilate Israel (Page 5)

Great2012: actually it is not about the Nuke any more it is who is having nuke is the main idea , if the nuke is with radicals the world has to united and get ride of them as of today like iran is just not qualified to have them because of the eratic head they have

LiptonCambell: >>>you need to agree that the jews are far better than any one

If you guys were truly interested in resolving this issue, you'd be crying against prejudice statements such as those. "The Jews are far better"??! This is what this is really about? That is incredibly racist and self-righteous- I agree chimp's statements were anti-Semitic- but you're actually going to shout down his bigoted comments, but find nothing wrong with Great2012's bigotry? That it's okay to kill Muslims, because Jews are "far better"??!

franklin1950: if and or when iran tries to hit isreal with a nuclear bomb launched by a rocket will they care even a small bit about the collateral damage to the palistinians .
posibly dirrect damage if their aim is a little off the mark .
i think not .

Great2012: Lipton,, i did not say it is ok to kill muslims i totally disagree with that idea. what i said was it is ok to kill these radicals and i do make comparison between the arabs and jews and i just take sides with jews because they contribute a lot to this earth

davidk14: .

David said: Israel does a limited assault on Iran and takes out all the nuclear sites before the Iranians have a chance to have a viable nuke to launch.


Lipton responded:

And if Iran retaliates? What if Iran simply re-builds their nukes? Does Israel attack again?

This all seems rather similar to the Palestine-Israel issue- and there doesn't seem to be positive results there.....this would be far worse, I'd wager....



David responds:

Lipton, Israel destroyed Iraq’s nuclear capabilities and they did not respond. They did not seriously rebuild their nuke program. Why? It was too damned expensive. You are concerned that Iran will / might respond. They might through Hamas or Hezbollah but that’s about it. If and when Israel destroys the nuke capabilities of Iran, it would be too expensive to rebuild and who would pay for it?

You seem more concerned about Iran’s response than Israel’s right to exist.



David said: None of the other Arab countries are considering nukes unless....Iran gets one.

Lipton said: Plu-eeze. You're saying no other nations in that region are considering arming themselves?



David said:

That’s absolutely correct. Other Arab countries might decide to build nuclear energy generating facilities but arming themselves with nuclear weapons is not in the cards…unless Iran gets nukes. You got to understand that most of the Arab countries HATE Iran. They actually prefer to live side by side with Israel than Iran.

Iran is a destabilizing force in the Arab world. But then you knew that…right?



Lipton said:

Clearly the lesson sent out again and again by the west is, if you are developing nukes, you will be attacked- but if you HAVE nukes, like North Korea, and India, and Pakistan? It turns into a cold war, where you are only attacked if the other side is content with being nuked.

The lesson is to get nukes- but not get caught developing them. So the fact that other nations don't seem to be developing nuclear weapons isn't evidence that they aren't.



David responds:

India and Pakistan have made no threats to Israel or anyone else. Their nukes are cold war against themselves. No one else.

And N. Korea, the US was blindsided by their program but they too are not threatening anyone except if attacked.

Iran is controlled by religious zealots who believe that their 12th imam will return when the world is in complete chaos. It’s is a fundamentalist, extremist, radical view of Islam. They invite death, not life. They have not only threatened Israel with destruction, but the West as well and do not care if ofther Muslims are killed.

If Tel Aviv, Israel’s lagest city is nuked, the West Bank which is 25 miles from Tel Aviv has about 1.5 million Palestinians who would be murdered as well.

Iran doesn’t care.

So in reality, Israel doing a pre-emtive attack to destroy the Iranian nuke weapons program is protecting every Palestinian man, woman and child. A good deed, don’t you think?

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StuckInTheSixties:

Way back on page 2 ...

david says to the chimp:
"you need to read the US Constitution. It does not include being antisemitic as you certainly are."

With that wording, I'm not quite sure what that was supposed to mean.

But the First Amendment certainly makes an allowance for being anti-Semitic or harboring any other sort of hateful beliefs, and it allows for hateful speech, as well.

The chimp's comments are a constitutionally guaranteed right.

As are yours. And mine.

chimp0ut: This David guy is out of his mind. He also said:

"And FYI, Jewish people in history have been pacifists at heart and had allowed themselves to be taken advantage of. "

This is the standard Zionist, victim, theology propaganda. It goes along well with the lie/mythology statement of being "God's chosen people". Using the lie of being "chosen by God", they try to rationalize all of their bad behavior and if someone ever retaliates against them for it, well, it's never the Zionist's fault, they're not capable of doing wrong, they're the victim no matter what they do!

StuckInTheSixties:

For the record:

I don't want my above comment to, in any way, be interpreted as any sort of support for or agreement with anything that the chimp has to say.

davidk14: .

Chimp has the right under the constitution to 'vocalize' his beliefs. However, the belief of being antisemitic is not in the constitution. Chimp being a KKK David Duke supporter, wanting him to be the Vice President is also not in the constitution either. And Chimp being a racist is also not in the constitution.

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davidk14: .

Chimp needs to open a book once in awhile and read about history. His ignorance is quite appalling.

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chimp0ut: Lol @ that.

We all know the definition of anti-semitic is no longer someone that dislikes Jews. It has now evolved into meaning "something Jews don't like".

davidk14: .

Another ignorant comment.

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chimp0ut: Don't want to go to war with Iran for Israel even though it has only negative consequences for America? Well, that makes you an anti-semite.

StuckInTheSixties:

david says:
"... the belief of being antisemitic is not in the constitution. Chimp being a KKK David Duke supporter, wanting him to be the Vice President is also not in the constitution either. And Chimp being a racist is also not in the constitution."

All true. But it's kind of pointless to start listing what's "not in the constitution." And it's awfully easy for that to be misinterpreted as a suggestion that the First Amendment doesn't allow for his (fucked up) views.

chimp0ut: What "fucked up" views? Even Harvard liberals write books about how the Zionists completely control ALL of US foreign policy and media now. AIPAC is in fact, the most powerful lobby in all of Washington, undisputed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy

davidk14: .

Never suggest that. Yes, he's ignorant and even the ignorant person's point of view is protected by the 1st Amendment.

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StuckInTheSixties:

Rabbit says:
"Are you saying that support for Israel and your views are ok but if your views show support for the oppressed Palestinian people, then your views are Fkd up?"

I said no such thing.

I've only expressed an opinion on two things:
~ david's semi-confusing comment, and the futility of listing "what's not in the constitution
~ that chimp's commentaries are "fucked up"

chimp0ut: Have fun reading the link of the New York Times best selling book describing how the Zionists have subverted our democratic process for their own twisted goals, backed up by facts and footnotes. Then you claim my "view" is "fucked up", when it is in fact, objective reality.

StuckInTheSixties:

That's not a repetition. That's a new question.

davidk14: .

Um..Harvard? Good choice for you to reference since it is a ultra liberal, left leaning institution. Of course you would align yourself to their views. Nice. Good job.

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