US ambassador and 3 others killed at embassy in Libya by Islamists (Page 26)  Great2012: @ocd actually all religion are not supporter to free speech and we can look back all history and find all religious people do not like free speech , they do not understand how science can change our daily life and most people can see from the catholic church and also from muslims (Post deleted by Great2012 )  davidk14: . Was just layin back and this crossed my screen...It's for those that believe that the Muslim Brotherhood is...well....nice. Egypt's Islamists play to anti-Israel sentiment Published October 13, 2012 Associated Press CAIRO – A fiery tirade against Jews by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood's leader highlights one of the foremost diplomatic challenges facing the country's new Islamist President Mohammed Morsi as he balances popular sentiment with the need for security relations with Israel. The Brotherhood's supreme leader Mohammed Badie called on Muslims worldwide this week to defend Jerusalem, saying "Zionists only know the way of force." He said that Jews were spreading "corruption," had slaughtered Muslims and desecrated holy sites. Badie's condemnation went well beyond the harsh criticism of Israel and its policies that is common in Egypt, opening even greater friction between the country's most powerful political group and its Jewish neighbor. And it will likely put more pressure on Morsi, who ran for president as a Brotherhood candidate, to take a more assertive role than his predecessor had in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Morsi made no public comments about Badie's remarks, the strongest criticism against Israel since Morsi took office in June. His spokesman, Yasser Ali, did not immediately respond to phone calls seeking comment. Eli Shaked, a former Israeli ambassador to Egypt, said the Brotherhood's statement was aimed at deflecting attention from Morsi's troubles in his first 100 days in office, from fuel shortages to mounting piles of garbage on the streets. "Every time there is domestic tension in the new Egypt, Israel and the Jews will be targeted and every time the Egyptian street is tense or protests the Muslim Brotherhood will bring the anti-Semitic genie out of the bottle," he said Saturday. Israel has increasingly become worried about the ascendance of the formerly repressed Brotherhood to power after last year's ouster of Hosni Mubarak, who was often pictured warmly greeting Israeli officials in Cairo. The two nations share security concerns about their volatile border area, and both control entry and exit points for the Palestinian Gaza Strip. Islamic militants in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula have carried out attacks this past year against security forces from both countries. Tensions were stoked last year when the Israeli embassy was ransacked by Egyptian protesters after a cross-border shootout that killed six Egyptian policemen. This summer, 16 Egyptian soldiers were gunned down in Sinai by suspected Islamic militants during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. Israeli officials grumbled that Egypt had increased the number of troops there to battle the militants without coordinating the move first with Israeli officials, as the nations' 1979 peace accord stipulates. Morsi has avoided speaking of Israel in public, only making pledges to respect Egypt's international agreements and the peace accord. The treaty, the first between Israel and an Arab country, has been a foundation for regional stability for more than three decades. This summer, new tensions arose when Israel said Morsi wrote back to Israeli President Shimon Peres, who had sent the Egyptian president a letter wishing him well on the start of Ramadan. Morsi's office denied sending the message. The 69-year-old Badie, who served 15 years in prison in his 20s for his Islamist views and was elected to his post in 2010, is the Brotherhood's eighth supreme leader since its founding in 1928. His statement reflects the group's overall position toward Palestinian aspirations for statehood and control of East Jerusalem, a holy site for both Muslims and Jews. He does not have sole authority over group decisions, but presides over the group's top council that vets major issues. Badie's statement was published on the group's website and emailed to reporters on Thursday, coinciding with the annual Islamic Hajj pilgrimage. Muslims used to pray toward al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem before praying toward Mecca in Saudi Arabia. "It is time for the Muslim ... to unite for the sake of Jerusalem and Palestine after the Jews have increased the corruption in the world, and shed the blood of (Muslims)," Badie said. The comments were denounced as hate speech by organizations that track anti-Semitism. Peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians have stalled over Israel's refusal to stop Jewish settlements in the West Bank, which Palestinians claim as their future state. Gamal Soltan, a political science professor at the American university in Cairo, said the Brotherhood may be playing to a regional audience in evoking the Palestinian crisis. "Morsi as president, trying to act as a statesman, is responsible for running the country. Badie has more freedom to express views," Soltan said. Israeli lawmaker Danny Danon called on the United States and the European Union to take action, adding that such "incitement and anti-Semitism in Egypt" must stop before Washington sends more financial aid to Cairo. "The direction of the new Egyptian government is very worrying and we are following with great concern what is being said and done and what is not being done there against extremists," he said in a telephone interview Saturday. Brotherhood spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan said Israel's suspected possession of nuclear weapons coupled with wars in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon and "the slaughter of Palestinians and expansion of settlements" means that relations with Egypt cannot be "normal." Ghozlan insisted the Egyptians would adhere to the terms of the 1979 treaty, "but we are dealing with Israel at the limits of the treaty. "Improved relations were with the former regime ... against the will of the people, the will of Arab people and the will of Palestinians. Now relations are different." Beyond religious links to Jerusalem, the Brotherhood inspired the formation of Islamic militant groups around the Middle East, including the Palestinian Hamas. Badie, who was once part of a group of radical members charged with seeking to overthrow Egypt's government, has since renounced violence, but supports Hamas in its "resistance" against Israel and met with Hamas premier Ismail Haniyeh last year in Cairo. Soltan, the political science professor, warned that the Brotherhood and Morsi cannot continue this "duality" for long. "They continue to be torn apart between ideology on the one hand and politics on the other," he said. "To survive as a president for Egypt he has to pursue a moderate policy vis-a-vis Israel and there will definitely be people in the Brotherhood who don't like that." .  (Post deleted by southern77 ) (Post deleted by staff ) (Post deleted by Stassi SUR ) (Post deleted by staff ) Great2012: why are you people not able to see the big picture if noble prize ? while american , chines and russian politician are eagr to kill people every where the EU has been building and helping so many groups to come together and work in a peacefull way . (Post deleted by staff )  lavendar_star: lol the far left is causing problem in world, geez dont people read. France just had a conservative government, Spain has a Conservative government, so does Britain, Holland etc. I also didnt know bankers all had far left politics that's a new one.  Also all these Islamic governments like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan etc are on the right i.e they are ultra conservatives you guys should be all for them.  Where is the evidence that the EU hates America lol gosh dont people read proper informative information no more. (Edited by lavendar_star) davidk14: . Star, I believe many of the EU countries JUST recently voted in these conservative governments because the leftists screwed the pooch. . lavendar_star: No your wrong david, In the UK we had New Labour who were center, France had a conservative government, Italy has had a conservative government, Greece had a liberal conservative government and the EU countries who have had no problems like the Scandinavia ones have the most leftist government and they have had no problems on the level like other EU countries. I know some of you guys see things in strictly black and white but politics is far more complex then that so I understand your confusion and misinformation. davidk14: . Star, After just a real quick search, the facts I have located do not support your comment. Here is just one source and if I had time right now, I would post a few more. However, I need to go to work. Looking forward to reading your response later today once you read the attached... http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/08/12/europes_conservative_confusion . lavendar_star: Well interesting article. Well first it stated that some EU countries had center left which different to a left wing politics but the point I was making that some EU countries have had conservative governments i.e. Italy or center government in the EU like Britain who had conservative policies. Also despite what you may think the reason for the surge to the right in some EU countries is not because of the economy but because of social factors mainly immigration specifically Muslims immigration and also immigration from other countries. Also in the EU some countries have coalitions with other parties like we do now in the UK (unlike the US). Germany who hold all the cards in Europe and have had the most stable economy despite some issues have a center left party. The point I was making is that some of you guys may have right and left, black and white view of politics and of political parties but its far more complex then that, in the policies these countries governments have towards different policies and issues. The issue with some EU states that have failed is far more complex to say it was liberal policies and governments that caused it all which serves to fit your own political ideology. In each country there were different faults and different failures and in the UK (despite what the uneducated may think) we do not have a socialist government and haven't had one for 50 or so years. The unregulated and cowboy attitude of our financial sector was one of the reasons for our decline and also the credit crunch. If anyone knows who Margaret Thatcher was (she was bff with Bush snr and Reagan) was very Conservative Prime minster and many say PM Tony Blair picked up from what she did and some even trace the faults with our country back to her. Some liberal polices have caused some of these problems but so have conservative polices caused these problems as well as problems greater then political ideologies and for people to put it on one sided to fit their belief is not right and should be more informed on the issues. (Edited by lavendar_star) Great2012: @david14, despite the fact that the financial crises started in America with a crazy leader and irresponsible domestic and foreign policy , again you people find time to blame the EU, EU is far better to handle their problem than american grid lock law makers , and lets face it , you (USA) screwed the whole world and then ask all people to work hard for a very trash papers , well yes the EU supposed to slam the american policy and draft their own to knock down the dollar but they did not do that and the failer was due to a conservative government in European nations. @star , you know , most conservatives are really senseless to know why and how we are in a mess every where , imagine in america 1 in 7 is living below poverty lines (Post deleted by southern77 ) Great2012: the Europeans will get out of this with a strong way , so Southern what do you think is the problem ? do you think we have this because all eropean citizens are better in health care , social security and you can go on to mention so many points , by the way why do not you people pay your debt , it is a ship going to reck (Post deleted by southern77 ) Great2012: well lets take your words at face value and it means , you need to pay the debt ,then come up with a plan to get rid off the artificial Federal reserve accounting , We Europeans are tired of your lazy and crazy media like CNBC talking about making money in money motion which serves only the elite 1%. | Politics Chat Room 34 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
