TERMINATOR DRONES: Rise of the New World Order. Him_over_there: The United States Campaign of Terror continues to spread across Islamic regions of the World; now in Pakistan, where high-tech killer flying drones, carrying a lethal array of Hellfire missiles are creating havoc amidst the civilian population. Upwards of 350 Terminator style missions have resulted in over 3,378 Pakistani deaths (of which 176 are known to be children) with more than 1,500 injuries and, according to the recent joint Stanford and New York University study, an horrific 98% of those slaughtered in the Attacks being innocent Civilians. Figures for Yemen reveal an estimated 285 U.S. operations leaving 1,055 dead, including 34 children. Somalia, 32 strikes with 170 adults and 3 children. him over there's Picture Yet in the face of these outrageous figures America's Imperialist leadership unflinchingly continue on their bloody mission to dominate and control Islamic nations, no matter the price in human carnage and misery, and with complete and utter contempt for every U.N. Charter, Human Rights Declaration, Military Convention, International Criminal Court Statute, and even the United States Constitution itself. (Edited by Him_over_there) Him_over_there: him over there's Picture A weekly 'kill list'; composed of dozens of Afghani, Pakistani. Somalian and Yemenite militants which the U.S. President and his associates feel are a threat to American interests are summarily given the thumbs down on what has been euphemistically coined in the Whitehouse 'Terrorist Tuesday'. Like Global Emperors, these agents of Corporate Capitalism arbitrarily decree life or death for Muslims, forgoing even the indignity of troublesome rendition and injudicial captivity in its notorious Guantanamo Bay prison camp. From secret C.I.A bases in Nevada, drone operators and their 2000 strong support network control a vast fleet of remotely piloted 'Terminator aircraft'. Permanently available, for any aerial assassination mission America's ruling class see fit to undertake, regardless of rule of law and national sovereignty, The New World Order has arrived and it is without Mercy. him over there's Picture (Edited by Him_over_there)  Eastern_Phoenix: kids are not harbored terrorists ! I also noticed your flag representing an ally of Israel who's pushing hard to attack Iran in pretext its nuclear program while Israel originated by occupation & built on thousands of innocent bodies not to mentions numbers of tortured and killed children through past 54 years. So,not surprising,ignoring deaths of innocent people in Pakistan and defending the criminal who's following his "created enemy" cowardly enough from a far away distance of its own territory. You have ignored the main point that: (( According to the most recent joint Stanford and New York University study, which indicates as high as 98% collateral death rates:including many children )) http://livingunderdrones.org/living-under-drones/ http://livingunderdrones.org/)) Only thing took your attention was Iranian Press TV- changing main subject written on this thread , Please don't be offended for your avatar took my attention too ! (Edited by Eastern_Phoenix)  alpossmar82: Briton still hasn't made apology for nuclear testing in the remote states of Australia for aboriginal fatalities post WW2.  dave3974: the solution is simple respect the borders of afganistan , stop the terorrists crosing the borders , arraest the criminals and terrorists in pakistan and the usa will have no reason to have drones [ which are far more effective than bombing larege areas ]. shadowline: Allow me to repeat davidk14's all too easily ignored but entirely to the point remark: Notice the source...Iran Press TV alpossmar82: Downunder more recently particularly Nz is also under dronesurveillence. Is this in response to a particular tribal indiginious terroist training camp (more IRA tactical opposed to Taliban)? In whch the milititary involvement was minimal not to the extent of martial law like as faliures suggest in military involvement concerning martial law in Parkistan in easing tribal differences and civil problems like terrorism. The real trouble makers for example professor Z---(a man who liked to party) who was only excilled in the 90 s from Pakistan for selling centrifugal technology to Nth Korea which was then sold to Iran, indirectly responsible to current drone attacks. Prince Charles and Camila know they are under good protection with drone activity when they visit NZ this coming weekend. Him_over_there: Here: Same story different journalists. But of course if a truth is too uncomfortable to swallow, it is ignored accordingly. And as Eastern Phoenix iterated above, the sources are not 'foreign liars' from yonder, where there be dragons and strange bearded men who cannot be trusted, but ironically from wholesome, apple-pie-eating American researchers at N.Y.U. School of Law and Stanford University Law School. From tea-sipping academics at the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in the City of London University. Each conducting objective investigations in the face of Government lies, official obstruction and furtive avoidance of press scrutiny. These are hidden atrocities, which Western Corporate Capitalist, monolithic, monopolised, privately owned media dutifully turns its face away from. Each institution working hand in hand with the other towards the same nefarious ends. Censorship by omission is a most effective tool employed by the New World Order to shape the vision of the uninformed masses. him over there's Picture shadowline: The original source is about as trustworthy as would be the opinion of Heinrich Himmler on whether Israel has a right to exist. I'm afraid that cannot be made to go away by indulging in childish rhetoric about "capitalists" and "imperialists" and "monopolies". The alternate source, Democracy Now, makes the first one look as safe as a Swiss bank. It is partisan to the point of bigotry, and its professionalism has been questioned far more than it has been respected. Maintaining that the "facts" in the story are being "hidden" because NBC and the New York Times don't report them leaves you wide open to the same charge regarding Iran Press TV and Democracy Now, both of which are jokes minus the punchline as sources of information. Not to mention that the United States has deadly enemies in Pakistan. So does the rest of humanity. Malala Jusufzai, for example. Find a real source, and we will listen. Him_over_there: shadowline - You fail to read and fail to understand that which is already before your eyes on the flickering screen. Sources that have first been supplied by Eastern Phoenix, who even re-pasted quotes to Davidk14, from my original post, referring to "the recent joint Stanford and New York University study" still remain unnoticed to your myopic gaze. Further to this I restate the sources in my second post: "American researchers at N.Y.U. School of Law and Stanford University Law School" along with "academics at the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in the City of London University". This too you ignore. And both Videos commence with reference to the joint Stanford and N.Y.U. study, with 'Democracy Now' also reporting the New York Times as an originating source for revelations regarding Obama's 'kill list'. This information is well covered and undisputed. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism is again cited by Amy Goodman in her interview with award winning London based journalist Chris Woods. So not only have you not bothered to read the thread, you didn't bother to watch the Videos! Now unfortunately, as a dog returns to its vomit. I suspect you'll continue to respond in this blinkered fashion, condemning every report not emanating from C.I.A. vetted sources as a work of fiction, and this simply because you genuinely don't want to know about the truth. And because you really don't care about the victims. (Post deleted by alpossmar82 ) shadowline: You're a nasty guy, Him. Or else you just can't stand being answered back, which is pretty retrograde for a man your age. I am not a dog returning to his vomit, and my gaze is not myopic. I suggest you keep the personal attacks for people in your own life, if there are any. When you post nefarious trash from Iran Press TV you demonstrate that you are willing to take such stuff seriously simply because it underscores your prejudices. When you try to back yourself up with another questionable source you simply compound the problem, and your questionable source's referring to the law schools of N.Y.U. and Stanford, or the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, is no more trustworthy than their "reporting" of unconfirmed "facts" from Pakistan or anywhere else. That the United States uses drones against its enemies in Pakistan is neither doubted nor news. The fact has been widely reported, as has the fact that civilians have suffered in the process, as they do in all wars. The overwhelming majority of victims have been militants, and if you don't believe that when the New America Foundation reports it http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones then pay attention when the Pakistani military concurs http://dawn.com/2011/03/09/most-of-those-killed-in-drone-attacks-were-terrorists-military/ Pakistan is well aware that it shares enemies with the United States, and has cooperated accordingly http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/world/asia/12drone.html?_r=0 even if they do play the usual game of complaining when civilians get hurt. Neither Pakistan nor the United States of America asked for the war they are engaged in, but there are things they value, like the lives of their people, enough, to not back away when war is made on them. And if you have anything in your bones other than bigoted hatred of the United States, then try demonstrating some sympathy for the victims of Syria's civil war, about which you are, of course, as silent as the grave. Their numbers outpace those of American drone attacks by a considerable margin. They bled too, sir. They died too. http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/10/09/242644.html alpossmar82: Sahrif Nawazs 90 s biography In the Line of Fire however political bias, to what a possible fascist military control over police? Often lead historically as with Iran under Zia Ul-haq to civil conflict and insight to genetic coding idealised by segments of the upperclass(particularly with Pakistan). In the film' Black Hawk Down' Pakistan U.N were far more prominent in the rescue of American troops, having superior experience with recent experience against the Muharajaden(excuse my Urdu) 'freedom fighters'. Maybe this biography is banned in States, possibly out of publication in the Commonwealth. (Edited by alpossmar82) alpossmar82: Blackhawk Down greatest War movie is often well appreciated amongst refugees from East Africa, transcending escape of war to the liberated lifestyle in the Western states, DVD's and HD screening of such epics(and the free porn). Under what propaganda agenda was the Pakistani effort made to be so minimal? (Edited by alpossmar82) (Post deleted by alpossmar82 )  lori100: great video^^^^^^^ shows how christianity was replay of the pagan myth of 'Sun' god and virgin birth, great evidence of 9 11 govt crime, how the public is manipulated to accept ongoing wars........ Him_over_there: Everything I said about shadowline is seen to be true, and every response he delivered is exactly as I predicted. Not only are Iranian 'Press TV' and American 'Democracy now' "unreliable, untrustworthy and trash", according to shadowline, but so are the prestigious New York School of Law and Stanford University! Who is the bigot here I wonder? And according to shadowline the U.S. "didn't ask" for a battle with those imposing village dwelling folk they are now blowing up on a regular basis. Perhaps the Northern Tribes people of Waziristan have inadvertently precipitated a war with the United States, thereby creating a scenario where retaliation is necessary? But I missed that news report I'm afraid. And when the Government of Pakistan calls for a halt to American drone strikes on the salient basis of civilian carnage and a breaching of national sovereignty; and when the Lahore High Court petitioned against, and a Parliamentary resolution was overwhelmingly passed to stop U.S. incursions they don't really mean it, nor do the thousands of protestors on the streets, because as shadowline puts it they're all just "playing the usual game of complaining"! Well, I didn't realise it was all just a game! And maybe I shouldn't bother raising any criticism at all, because the Pakistanis are obviously having a jolly good time of it; playing their usual games of moaning, and pretending not to like dying and having their limbs blown off by those funny old American drones. But it is so reassuring to hear that American Imperialist military might in the form of Hellfire missiles and toxic 500 pound laser-guided bombs are only raining down on Pakistan's tribal communities because America cares about them, and "value their lives", as shadowline claims. Or perhaps better put in that old phrase: 'with friends like these who needs enemies?' It seems that mere opposition to U.S. Imperial goals can be enough to warrant an assassination go-ahead, with the Presidential and personal seal of approval from Emperor Barack Obama. And this New World Order message of absolute control is reflected also in today's Assassination of Hamas military leader, Ahmed Said Khalil al-Jabari by U.S. Zionist Client Israel; also followed up with a plethora of random aerial and naval bombings in Gaza, leaving scores of civilian deaths, including children. Him_over_there: As for the ridiculous remark about Syrian deaths, one only need peruse my previous threads regarding this issue to realise I am the single main, and most vocal critic over the past 2 years on Wireclub of the terrorist Assad dynasty. Not that a bureaucratic bean-counting of violent deaths should be the deciding factor for engaging in any debate. Syria's Torture Machine Topic: Politics In Defence of the Syrian Revolution: the Marxist Position Topic: Politics Syrian Cartoonist has hands broken for drawing satirical depiction of President Basher Assad Topic: Politics Senior Syrian official flees Assad's sinking regime as protest Topic: Politics Don't remember seeing any input from shadowline in this period though! Perhaps Syrian misery is only being employed as an insincere bludgeon here? dave3974: i have yet to haer of the taliban caring about civilian deaths and now they are in syria , assad is looking moderate | Politics Chat Room 89 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
