How Israel shattered Gaza truce leading to escalating death and tragedy: a timeline (Page 12)

SWlNE
SWlNE:
Once again you've failed to directly respond to clear statements made against your opinion on the letter.

I have no time to engage in one of your pointless, weak circular arguments. The type that you hide behind when you can't form a structured objection to direct statements.

Yes, I am placing you as a weak coward. Weak for using weak, pathetic argument tactics instead of showing a level of seriousness and a coward for dodging direct responses. Don't bullshit me with 'lets keep this friendly', you crossed that line the moment you undermined this discussion and turned it into one of your immature clownish jabs. If you can't address direct statements and form arguments against that statement then keep silent.

Seeing that you're incapable of directly addressing a matter and opt instead to yap about more unrelated bullshit. We can conclude this here that you have nothing to add or related to say on my last post and that post stands there until you can directly quote my words on that post and present your case against it.



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yawaar: davidk14 called me a phony jew.. this is a problem with davidk14.. he feels he is the authority to rule on religion..I was searching for this guy, i think he is a brother of davidk14 or he is davidk14.. davidk14 son is not allowed to learn history and science.. he is pure jew, i am phony jew because i went to university.. one of the best university..davidk14 is teaching his kids only torah. he believe we are in 5th exile..

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SWlNE
SWlNE: Yawaar, he usually does that to stray it away from the topic when he can't address your points.

He can't function in a proper discussion so he turns it into what he knows: spewing unrelated bullshit and accusations. It's a waste because it means there'll hardly be reasonable discussions on the forums. Very lazy and weak tactics.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

So now you folks are physiologists. Brilliant!

Not.

Once again, you have come to the end of this experience. You have forgotten what facts and reality represent. Saying I have not explained myself...seriously?

It is you that I give one more chance to answer this question...again...

The deal does not stop them in Iranian Military installations. It just doesn't.

You believe you can trust Iran? Can you?

Just say you trust Iran based on their track record.

I stated these questions before and you refuse to answer and the only reason I can ascertain is that you can not answer because it would show your support for Jewish murderers and the death to infidels. It would be like you supporting Nazi's and what fool would do that.



Oh...and yawaar, you said, "...davidk14 called me a phony Jew.. this is a problem with davidk14.. he feels he is the authority to rule on religion...."

I did call you a phony Jew because you previously stated that you are a Jew using statement as a debating point and then also said you are an atheist not believing in God or religion. Those two statements do not work together therefore anything you say is disingenuous.

In other words.....you lack integrity.

Seriously.


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SWlNE
SWlNE:
I addressed each of your questions on the post I previously posted, you response was: "I stopped reading your nonsense when you said, "The deal is not to stop Iran's uranium-enrichment programme.:"

I showed you directly that the deal had aspects to limit Iran's Uranium enrichment programme and not geared towards stopping it. (It is directly stated in the Iran deal on page 6. The links were provided.)

I gave you several chances to go back and respond to my posts directly as an adult and you didn't, you opted to throw a fit like pússy.

No need for me to continue. I don't entertain fools. If you can't handle an adult conversation then carry on kicking and screaming like a kid. I'll speak to you as one.
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yawaar
yawaar: davidk14, don't you know judaism is race and religion? i don't believe in god but by race i'm a jew..
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Filth said:

[Post #354) Yes, I am placing you as a weak coward. Weak for using weak, pathetic argument tactics instead of showing a level of seriousness and a coward for dodging direct responses. Don't bullshit me with 'lets keep this friendly', you crossed that line the moment you undermined this discussion and turned it into one of your immature clownish jabs. If you can't address direct statements and form arguments against that statement then keep silent.

Seeing that you're incapable of directly addressing a matter and opt instead to yap about more unrelated bullshit. We can conclude this here that you have nothing to add or related to say on my last post and that post stands there until you can directly quote my words on that post and present your case against it.

David responds:

I must assume the above was not written by a 10 year old having a temper tantrum, but then, I may be wrong. There is nothing in that personal tirade which is based in fact or truth and nowhere close to the subject of this thread. Your comments are based on personal lack which shows the lack of integrity on your part, which I have stated before which reinforces the my statement.

David continues:

I will ask you one more time and please respond to the question or don't respond at all.

A) The deal does not stop them in Iranian Military installations. It just doesn't.

You believe you can trust Iran? Can you?

Your personal answer is?

B) The deal does not address Iranian missiles which would deliver a nuke 1100 miles to Israel. You believe Iran can be trusted to not have missiles to deliver a nuke? Why would the Iranians not let the UN inspect their Military Installations to make sure that their are no ICBM's nor nukes?

C) The deal did not include the release of illegally held American hostages? This administration traded 5 Taliban operatives from Gitmo for one American traitor Bergdahl. Now why is that the deal did not include the American hostages?

Like I stated before, if you choose not to answer these questions, so be it. Just do not make personal attacks because if would show your lack of integrity....again.

Thanks.

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SWlNE
SWlNE:
Let's look at integrity and a bit of hypocrisy:

Davidk14: "I can not understand why morons like you ..."

Davidk14: "Like I said before, low information folks like you are like....lemmings."

Davidk14: " Lemmings. No facts. Just lemmings. You know what that feels like....being a lemming....right?"

Davidk14: "I stopped reading your nonsense.."

Davidk14: "Are you having a temper tantrum because I called you out because you are in support of a terrorist regime?"

This was all before I called you a weak coward (which backs itself).

Go back to my long response to your statement and quote just as you're quoting and respond to them. I addressed every thing. Want me to repaste it?
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SWlNE
SWlNE:
Stop being a whiny victim and get back to the conversation. You were to respond directly to the 11th post:

Topic: Politics

Let me see if you can do a 'Filth says' on it and respond to the statements.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

What childishness.

davidk14 said:

I will ask you one more time and please respond to the question or don't respond at all.

A) The deal does not stop them in Iranian Military installations. It just doesn't.

You believe you can trust Iran? Can you?

Your personal answer is?

B) The deal does not address Iranian missiles which would deliver a nuke 1100 miles to Israel. You believe Iran can be trusted to not have missiles to deliver a nuke? Why would the Iranians not let the UN inspect their Military Installations to make sure that their are no ICBM's nor nukes?

C) The deal did not include the release of illegally held American hostages? This administration traded 5 Taliban operatives from Gitmo for one American traitor Bergdahl. Now why is that the deal did not include the American hostages?

Like I stated before, if you choose not to answer these questions, so be it. Just do not make personal attacks because if would show your lack of integrity....again.

Thanks.


filth responded:

Stop being a whiny victim and get back to the conversation.

davidk responds:

I rest my case or as I have said on numerous occations folks...


Check


and


Mate.

Nothing else to see here folks.

(Note: For those of you that do not know what I meant by check and mate...it's a chess term when you have cornered your opponent into a corner, and there is no moves left...mate refers to loosing. In this case, filth is the looser. Yawaar is a looser too.)

End of transmittion.

Thanks for playing and now back to your regular broadcast.







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SWlNE
SWlNE:
Seeing that you can't pose any objections to what was stated supporting the letter and the deal, we'll conclude that you agree with everything that was stated.


Now for your new questions:

1) "The deal does not stop them in Iranian Military installations."

Answer:
The deal sets restrictions that will both monitor and keep Iran from building a nuclear weapon, instead, they'll be allowed to continue that programme and use it for peaceful means, which can be done under the restrictions.

This was already covered in my previous post (the one that you said you can't read)

As a further source reread the deal and the restrictions outlined.
As an additional source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/foreign-policy/iran-deal

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2) "You believe you can trust Iran?"

As stated before, I do not 'trust' any government (Israel and US included). As I aforementioned:
Lies have been told by the US government, so too the Israeli government. It is a human aspect of politics. There is no means of eradicating lies in politics or governments. This is on accountability. It is on safeguarding a peaceful means of dealing with the situation and giving Iran this responsibility that if they do slip up that it is on their own heads.
If you wish to speak on global warming, there is a global warming thread, I'm sure you can express your concerns there.
I do not support any government but I am contented with any attempt towards a peaceful reasoning. You support the US and I can list myriads of disgusting things done in the name of that country and under the use of that flag. But then what will that have to do with the topic at hand.

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3) "The deal does not address Iranian missiles which would deliver a nuke 1100 miles to Israel."


Even without sources, common senses states that in order to 'deliver a nuke' one must be able to create a 'nuke', the deal restricts Iran's capabilities of producing one. Pay attention.
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4) "The deal did not include the release of illegally held American hostages?"

It also doesn't cover my car insurance. A nuclear deal will not cover prisoners. That is something that can be negotiated and settled outside of it. The focus is on one thing thing only.
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5) "In this case, filth is the looser. Yawaar is a looser too."

HAaha "looser" : Not fastened, restrained, or contained:

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/looser


God, too bad you'd not get the joke. You're probably smug thinking you were insulting but instead insulted yourself. That my friend is what we call in football a nutmeg. Got you tripping all over yourself HAaha Go take a nap clown. I'm in a perfect mood Barca is ahead with 3 goals and going strong. Superb match. Half time down.



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SWlNE
SWlNE:
6) "End of transmittion"

"transmittion" you got a lisp? thanschmittan. HAahaha! Ah Davidk14, only you can make me laugh this loud.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Silly Filth. You have got to be kidding. Lets examine your responses.

David said:

1) "The deal does not stop them in Iranian Military installations."

Filth’s response:

Answer:

The deal sets restrictions that will both monitor and keep Iran from building a nuclear weapon, instead, they'll be allowed to continue that programme and use it for peaceful means, which can be done under the restrictions.

David responds:

You did not respond to the statement regarding no access by UN inspectors into any Iranian Military Nuclear facilities. This is the game changer. They can hide nuclear bomb development and everyone knows this.

So to this…you earned and ‘F’

David asked:

2) "You believe you can trust Iran?"


Filth responded:

As stated before, I do not 'trust' any government (Israel and US included). As I aforementioned:

Lies have been told by the US government, so too the Israeli government. It is a human aspect of politics. There is no means of eradicating lies in politics or governments.

David responds:

Since you do not trust any government, you accept that you cannot trust Iran not to build nukes or the systems to deliver them. And you then must accept that the Iranians will continue to build nukes at their Military Sites since they will not be overseen by the UN nuclear inspectors. To believe otherwise is naive and frankly stupid.

Now Filth says:

This is on accountability. It is on safeguarding a peaceful means of dealing with the situation and giving Iran this responsibility that if they do slip up that it is on their own heads.

David responds:

Giving Iran this responsibility? Seriously?

All the mullahs want is for the sanctions to be removed to get frickin billions of dollars to continue their Jihad against the infidels. They, according to you, can not be trusted. Right? You said that. You do not trust any government so why would you trust them to do be responsible when in the past they have not done so?

Hello??? Anyone home? They can build nukes at their military facilities without anyone being able to hold them accountable for "this responsibility".

Filth said:

If you wish to speak on global warming, there is a global warming thread, I'm sure you can express your concerns there.

I do not support any government but I am contented with any attempt towards a peaceful reasoning. You support the US and I can list myriads of disgusting things done in the name of that country and under the use of that flag. But then what will that have to do with the topic at hand.

David responds:

You have come to a conclusion that I support the US regarding foreign policy under the current administration. You are 100% wrong. This administration has an abysmal record.

You say you are contented with any attempts towards a peaceful reasoning. As long as what? The US and Israel bend over and take it up the ass? Sorry dude. That is not how it works.

This is how it is supposed to work.

You first negotiate and if the talks do not stop the mass murderers such as ISIS and Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran and NKorea, you do not just sit back and whine like a bitch in a room full of bitches like so many as you do. Thank goodness you and those like you did not make the same decisions about the Nazi's. Ooops...sorry...many did....trust the Nazi's.



Stupid morons.



Filth responded to this:

3) "The deal does not address Iranian missiles which would deliver a nuke 1100 miles to Israel."


Filth actually said:

Even without sources, common senses states that in order to 'deliver a nuke' one must be able to create a 'nuke', the deal restricts Iran's capabilities of producing one. Pay attention.

David responds:

How about the nukes being built in the Iran Military Nuclear complexes? Hello??? Anyone home??? No UN inspectors are going to visit these complexes…hello…lights are burning but nobody home????

There you go trusting the Iranians to do what is right and since 1979, they have done the opposite. They held 52 US hostages for 444 days and released them the day Reagan was sworn into office because Carter was a pussy and the current administration is much worse than Carters.

Just a tidbit...today an Obama adviser was arrested for shooting at her husband. Nice people advising the president. Right?

Filth responded to this:

4) "The deal did not include the release of illegally held American hostages?"
Filth said:

It also doesn't cover my car insurance. A nuclear deal will not cover prisoners. That is something that can be negotiated and settled outside of it. The focus is on one thing thing only.

David responds:

So Israel should not have released Hamas convicted murderers for peace? I agree with you their. They murdered innocent human beings and should have never been released for any reason.


David did say:

5) "In this case, filth is the looser. Yawaar is a looser too."

Filth tried to respond:

HAaha "looser" : Not fastened, restrained, or contained:

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/looser


God, too bad you'd not get the joke. You're probably smug thinking you were insulting but instead insulted yourself. That my friend is what we call in football a nutmeg. Got you tripping all over yourself HAaha Go take a nap clown. I'm in a perfect mood Barca is ahead with 3 goals and going strong. Superb match. Half time down.

David responds:

Seriously? That’s the best you got?

Was I Insulting? Perhaps.

Was I being truthful? Absolutely

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SWlNE
SWlNE:

You agree with my answer to A (seeing as you have no rebuttal for it)

Concerning your statement:
"You did not respond to the statement regarding no access by UN inspectors into any Iranian Military Nuclear facilities. This is the game changer. They can hide nuclear bomb development and everyone knows this.
So to this…you earned and ‘F’"


You previously asked that question and I answered it in the long post that I told you to read (if you had read it you'd see it)
The response was: Regulating procedures are covered within the NPT as well.
It also goes back to what was already stated and covered in the deal, the limitations imposed on Iran will make them incapable of creating a nuclear bomb. Can't hide what you don't have.

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Concerning your statement:
"Since you do not trust any government, you accept that you cannot trust Iran not to build nukes or the systems to deliver them. And you then must accept that the Iranians will continue to build nukes at their Military Sites since they will not be overseen by the UN nuclear inspectors. To believe otherwise is naive and frankly stupid."


Think before you type. Rules do not need 'trust'. To 'trust' Iran will mean to leave them without a deal. Setting a deal with rules and procedures, etc it means that 'TRUST' is unnecessary. No one has trust in politics (if you do, then I've got news for you). I know you 'trust' the Israel government and the US government but blindly accepting the words of a group adds to biasness and what's that word you like to use 'lemming'? Within the NPT and other things stipulated in the deal, Iran is made accountable and it puts them in spot light. Transparency > Blind trust.

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Concerning your statement:
"Giving Iran this responsibility? Seriously? "


Yes. Every country that signs the NPT has a responsibility and are accountable. What should be looked at are the countries that do not, that is Israel. I prefer to have each country open and transparent about their nuclear activity and this is one thing that Israel has refused to do and which is very dangerous. I don't work with 'blind trust'

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Concerning your statement:
"Hello??? Anyone home? They can build nukes at their military facilities without anyone being able to hold them accountable for "this responsibility"."


Read the fúcking deal or there'll be no point to this conversation, it is right there.

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Concerning your statement:
"You first negotiate and if the talks do not stop the mass murderers such as ISIS and Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran and NKorea, you do not just sit back and whine like a bitch in a room full of bitches like so many as you do. Thank goodness you and those like you did not make the same decisions about the Nazi's. Ooops...sorry...many did....trust the Nazi's.
Stupid morons."


You're a negotiation expert now? A few posts up you couldn't spell 'occasions'. Your brief opinionated rant is noted. Keep it to a minimum and try to focus on the topic.

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Concerning your statement:
"How about the nukes being built in the Iran Military Nuclear complexes? Hello??? Anyone home??? No UN inspectors are going to visit these complexes…hello…lights are burning but nobody home????"


Again as stated many times, 'nukes' can't be built with the limitations imposed.

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Concerning your statement:
"So Israel should not have released Hamas convicted murderers for peace? I agree with you their. They murdered innocent human beings and should have never been released for any reason."


If that's your view on that situation, good for you. However, I'm not making a comment on it as it's unrelated to the topic and I'm not interested in it.

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Concerning your statement:
"Seriously? That’s the best you got?
Was I Insulting? Perhaps.
Was I being truthful? Absolutely "


Take a moment and look at the link and the meaning of the word 'loose' and 'looser'. It'd come to you. You'd realise that you've only managed to insult yourself. Trust me. Do it.

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SWlNE
SWlNE:
Seeing that you disagree with everything that is in the deal (or what you think is in the deal), what was your solution to Iran having a peaceful use of nuclear power for its economy? Bomb them? Or reimposed sanctions (saw that one was ridiculous but there's no telling with you)?

hmm Edit that. nvm. I don't want to know. Must be some nonsense or clown response.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

OMG.

I'm sorry. You have a skewed idea of the world and trust Iran.

I will not be responding any longer on this thread to you or yawaar since there is no discussing this topic. You support Iran.

I do not.

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SWlNE
SWlNE:
hmm strange since I've made it clear twice that I don't blindly trust any government (US, Israeli, Iranian, Pakistani, German and others). There is no need to, hence why agreements and deals are made (with the exception of Israel, North Korea and a few others who refuse to be transparent and accountable).

Whatever excuse you want to make to run away from confronting the discussion is fine with me. I'll not pressure you.

I understand that you're unable to rebut any of the points and you've given up. Can't say you'll be missed.

ps. I don't type on behalf of anyone else, Yaawar is an adult with his own views. If you want to find out his views you should ask him.
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yawaar
yawaar: guys support Bernie! get out to vote if you are in NY

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Evelyn99
Evelyn99: Well Jews should be a little humble to. In the 40s it wasn’t so cool to be a Jew in Europe.
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