How Israel shattered Gaza truce leading to escalating death and tragedy: a timeline (Page 7)

Eagster
Eagster: I know you didn't say at all cost, i was saying that if a person believes a nation has a right to exist then they basically believe that nation must exist at all cost. Like how Zionist think Israel must and should exist without question.
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GeraldTheGnome
GeraldTheGnome: Okay, the saying bit is technically wrong. But I see where you are going with it. Some people believe in a nation's 'existence' but that isn't right anyway, mainly due to the reason that a nation is not alive. Some have the all cost belief, yes, that is why I hate what has happened there and elsewhere in the world, not just by governments but by terrorists, their political wings and by some others. Zionists believed that Israel should have been created without question by any means (by some of them), once they got it they wanted to secure that, they did. It doesn't mean that I agreed with their ways, after '49 though there was and is only ex Zionists around, not Zionists. Another mistake with far right and far left mythology.
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Eagster
Eagster: Very wise man you are Gerald. I guess it is impossible for a nation to exist becasue it's not alive lol, but then what term would one use to classify or describe a nation that is inhabited by living things such as Humans and Animals? I really do not know
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GeraldTheGnome
GeraldTheGnome: An official country, a official nation.
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Eagster
Eagster: Can't get more simple than that thanks I guess.
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dave3974
dave3974: doh
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ryan58581
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yawaar
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davidk14
davidk14: .

It's sad isn't it. Hamas has not helped the people at all. All they have done is bring death and misery to the Palestinian people.

Get rid of Hamas.

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yawaar
yawaar: you keep bringing hamas, many times i told you that hamas was formed in 1987. you tend to ignore the facts.

guys, i came to houston for some official work. i was pleased to see anti occupation rally. it made my day. lot of concern citizens chanting to stop tax dollars of US to israel which is used directly to fund the killing of innocents. i was thrilled, i parked on the side and joined the group. there was diversity in the group.

i feel occupation days are numbered. a young man told me that they have a project to show the texans the aid which US give to israel using our tax dollars. they are educating voters.. was pleased.. it made my day thought of sharing..

we support the president like president obama who can look into the eye of israel and say what they should do and what they should not..occupation will end soon. equal rights for palestinians , we will see it in our life time. i am not talking about you davidk14, you seems to be a senior citizen, it may take longer
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Being discriminatory for you is natural.

And I have been telling you, Hamas took over the Gaza after Israel evacuated Gaza in 2005. That is fact and you can't say anything to prove otherwise. Hamas took over violently too but you fail to acknowledge that fact or prove otherwise.

Obama is a failure not because I say it...because the American voter says it. He won the vote overwhelmingly and now...he just may go down in history as the worst president. He has lower numbers than Bush and that is remarkable. Your hero...with less support than Bush. Make sense though.



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Outbackjack
Outbackjack: Obama just needs to halt the billions of dollars his country sends to Israel in military aid and get behind a U.N resolution sending in peacekeepers to Palestine.

Forget all the bullshit.It is this simple.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Outback...You are right. Forget all the bullshit. Hamas needs to stop firing rockets and digging attack tunnels with relief money that is sent in specifically for the Palestinian people.

I do agree in principal to send in UN Peacekeepers however if they are going to do the same job they have done in Lebanon, they why even try. S

Send in US troops to be the peacekeepers and they should be locked and loaded.

As far as sending money to Israel....If the US stops sending in money to Israel, then the US must stop sending money to all Arab countries as well. Then it would be fair.

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yawaar
yawaar: i agree with you jack..

NO US troop for ISRAEL, STOP this nonsense. we are not going to send our men and women to get killed for the sake of israel. we have lost many in iraq, many came back with mental illness, the war started by zionist.

I fail to understand the privilege status of israel.. we should not send a dime to israel, the beggars should beg somewhere else.. not my tax dollars anymore.
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Anti-Israel this...anti-Israel that....

Same old from a racist. Tell us something new yawaar. Your bigotry is getting real old.

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yawaar
yawaar: being anti-israel is being racist?? being anti-president and anti-US is being patriotic??
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davidk14
davidk14: .

Nice try at the spin. If you were fair and balanced, that would be one thing. However you are not and support the destruction of Israel and the 5 million Jews. Your posts support this.

My posts support the right for Jews to exist in Israel and for the 'Palestinian People' to exist side by side with Israel.

My posts support the fact that for this to happen, Hamas must be destroyed.

However, you refuse to condemn Hamas and their murderous Charter.

You also refuse to support Israel's right to exist.

By not supporting Israels right to exist, you support genocide of the Jewish people which makes you the worst type of racist and bigot.

I believe I have made this clear a number of times.

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yawaar
yawaar: i have made it very clear many times. i support israeli's right to exist. I do not support israeli's aggression on innocent citizens. you have never condemned the actions of israel. you attack anyone who talks about the aggression of israel. be a constructive citizen, criticize what you see wrong. your stand to not criticize israel does not support peace and further risk the existence of israel
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davidk14
davidk14: .

I am glad to see that you finally stated that you support Israel's right to exist.

Aggression on innocent citizens. Hum. Let's see. Israel signs a peace treaty with Egypt. Israel signs a peace treaty with Jordan. Israel sits at the table with animals that have sent suicide bombers to slaughter women and children.

Aggression on citizens? Please.

Why not discuss human rights of Arab countries with Sharia Law where they stone women to death. Does Israel stone women to death?

How about the Islamist's that crucify children? Does Israel crucify children?

Does Israel mom's strap bombs on their children and send them into restaurants yelling god is great before blowing themselves up killing and maiming?

However, Israel does send into Gaza hundreds of trucks everyday of relief and humanitarian supplies even though Gaza is a refuge for Hamas and ISIS.

Yep. Your condemnation of Jews is obviously misguided just like the name of this thread.

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yawaar
yawaar: next holocaust will be Palestinian see this
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yawaar
yawaar: Iran deal is signed.. thumps down to bibi... coming to congress and offending the president did not help. this reminds new jon stewarts clip.
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yawaar
yawaar: Bibi, the liar of the century.. man with no credibility all fake

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yawaar
yawaar: beggars are on their way to Washington from israel.. be like a man, do it yourself... for how long you need help from us?? we have our own problems, we want our government to spend on education of minorities.. not to buy security umbrella for israel. when the common citizen of US will be awake?

"In a videotaped statement posted on his Facebook page, Mr Herzog said he had spoken with officials of pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC and other US groups, and would be headed to the United States “to ask that Israel gets a security umbrella and a series of steps to allow Israel to maintain its advantage in the region due to the new reality coming out of the deal”.
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SWlNE
SWlNE:
What's everyone's thoughts on the release of the convicted Israeli Spy Jonathan Pollard?

I've seen a lot of US citizens angered over it.
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