Is it possible? (Page 5)

Comrade_: You confront lies with truth but if you want to be the annoying, ranting guy who want to throw insults instead of addressing a topic then be my guess. It's called harassing. People form their own opinions, you think that they'll suddenly be persuaded by your bs flag or by a meaningful rebuttal?
You seem edgy for some reason.

lori100: LOL Thank You Jack , nailed it!!

davidk14: .

I sort of am a little edgy tonight. Thanks for noticing. Tonight, just not in the mood for Lori's theories that she cuts and pastes from God knows where where the stuff she posts has been tested and proven to be lies. I realize she has every right to post it and usually I go along with it and just occasionally. Perhaps I will just go watch something on Netflicks. Maybe a good zombie flick.

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Comrade_: Yes, maybe you should find something to relax. Not worth getting so worked up about anything online tbh.

lori100: I sort of am a little edgy tonight-------awww you didn't get to abuse anyone at work...? David has a long history of attacking people when he can't accept the truth.......

davidk14: .

You have no idea the can of worms you are opening up. If you decide to continue on this destructive path, you should re-consider the kind words Jack offered you earlier that you agreed with. The next words you type about this will be very illuminating, so be very, very careful. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything.

OCD_OCD: Jack, if Lori wants to "discuss" conspiracies and alien invasions on her own threads, then I am happy to post opposing views. When she attempts to hijack discussions on threads by others and ranting about unseen, unknown, unsubstantiated and unbelievable cabals on other threads, then she needs to man up.

When she brings an alien to dinner is when I stop laughing. Until then, the schemes and babbling of aliens is simply that. Fodder for extreme skepticism.

lori100: you attacked my 9 11 thread and any post of mine as usual......public forums are for all and do not need your approval.......

OCD_OCD: Again, Lori, dissent is dissent, not attack.

lori100: when you follow and abuse and ridicule every post of mine it is abuse and harassment-----------has been happening for several months, admins do NOTHING about it!!!

OCD_OCD: note to Lori: I do not believe that aliens are taking over the world. i do not believe in mythical cabals or the rantings of SALUSA or Sirius or any of the other myriad "channelers of truth".

GeraldTheGnome: How is all of this relevant to a very remote but possible civil war in the US ? Quite a number of people on this site should be very thankful that this is a far left site, where the far left and the far right are allowed to have a field day everyday where rarely there is anything done about it.

Comrade_: You all should just find some common ground.
If you don't believe in alien/conspiracy theories, good for you. But it can be seen that there are others who believe in it. The civil thing to do is either address what they placed forward and refrain from the attacks/taunts or be indifferent towards the whole thing. Not that difficult...

davidk14: .

Hummm......common ground....



hummm....common ground....

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GeraldTheGnome: I believe that some conspiracies do exist, I just find that most conspiracy theories are either debunked or that far fetched that there is no realistic chance of those theories ever have the possibility of being proven. Theories that Hitler was killed by the Russians is possible, conspiracy theories on JFK, Harold Holt, a possible US civil war by certain groups and various other things are all conspiracy theories that will either be proven to actually be the truth instead of just cases of more conspiracy theories with no basis to them. No one is going to be probed by Aliens here, I do believe that in one form or another there may be life already on other planets and/or that there will be in the future.

Yes we should all find common ground and leave every far fetched thing off this site.

Comrade_: Common ground don't necessarily mean believing what the other person believes. There'll be far fetching things and no need for restrictions on those, just how we approach someone who believes in something that we consider far-fetch.

GeraldTheGnome: Never claimed it did. Certain far fetched things should have restrictions on them, I have seen a lot of vile, hate filled, unfair far fetched things on this site, in the way of text, video, photos and pictures, this very remote yet possible civil war scenario is a place that isn't immune to it either. It's not what is far fetched but how it is far fetched.

Comrade_: The 'common ground' was an addition to davidk.
Lori's 'far-fetch things' are mainly on conspiracy theories as aliens etc, things that it seems there are others beyond herself who believe in them (since there are youtube videos etc dedicated to them).
You can't restrict something based on your own morals or what you deem it to be. The only thing that should be restricted is how we address someone who has a 'far-fetched' idea. We address their points and yes freely debate it, not harass the person.
There are a lot of post I disagree with and I might be aggressive but I still think that it's best to address the topic than the person, unless the person throws an insult..which means free-game to take a sarcastic dig or something back then hopefully leave it there.

GeraldTheGnome: All true, but it is not about morals and you don't always practice what you preach, aka the false assumption that I was a coward by deleting already read stuff, even though you read all that I had on that forum which no one else at the time was taking part in during most of that and you responded so I saw no need to keep it there. Someone's own morals don't factor into it, what should be restricted is that of certain far fetched ideas, ones like genocide etc being acted out by one group or a concentration camp existed, where it really doesn't, when all of that is instead shown as being nothing but slanderous and false.

Common ground is needed and that is what will most likely will be the reason that Civil War in the US will not happen, there is a remote possibility that it might happen but that is only if common ground is not reached. Let's leave the illuminati theories and likes out of it, even though a MINORITY of people in the world believe them, that is what youtube in particular caters for (and unfortunately this site).

Comrade_: It was a fair statement that you cowardly deleted your things and edited a few that you left behind. I don't think that your intent was 'deleting already read stuff' else you would've deleted every input you made. I don't like people who make comments and delete them after, it seems dishonest and a waste to engage in a conversation and then attempt to erase one's steps. There was no reason to delete your own comments unless it was to hide what you said (probably regretted the things you stated) if that was the case you should delete everything you said in forums. Save the bs..thanks

People who make claims should back it with evidence, if you find that what they say isn't to your liking or something you consider false then ask for proof. Simple.

The "common grounds" and "illuminat" was all a side-track discussion that happened away from the original topic.

GeraldTheGnome: No it wasn't, you read it, then you hit below the belt. It was unfair since even that you are taking out of context. By that time on that forum no one else gave a stuff what you or I had to put on there, me included. I don't like slander or dishonesty either, but I see it and saw it. It was text based, no conversation was ever carried out, it wasn't an attempt to erase anyone's steps, I've seen the BS it has never come from my end except when I've joked about it or a now and again honest slip up.

What is false is false, there are no excuses, it is that simple, this forum is about a remote chance of a civil war, not that of anyone's ego, there is a remote chance of it becoming real one day. Some group doing backroom deals, controlling all of the world's governments and everything else has never been proven, therefore the likes of an unproven to even exist right now group is better left for the tabloids. Not here. Therefore the illuminati or any other unproven to exist secret society is best left where that is they swallow that because the unproven to exist group won't factor into a civil war, believing so is BS. Thanks.

I can't delete comments, because I literally didn't make any comments on this text based site. I can back things up with evidence, you assume I never have evidence but never have none that for sure. Once again as 'evidence' from your entire last message, you never practice what you preach. You just assumed you know the reason for what I have done in one or more forums instead, by the way none of what you just mentioned has anything to do with a possible US civil war so it is you that has side tracked me from the topic, not a discussion, not the other way around. I only ask for proof when something is extremely unfair or I'm unsure of never if it is not to my liking or not. If it is extremely unfair then it is a lie and it is false. If this forum mentioned that a civil war has started in the US and it is continuing right now then that would be false (unless proven otherwise) and I'd ask for proof just in case I didn't notice that it was happening right now.

GeraldTheGnome: Edited ? Oh yes, I left out an s and things like that, I later added the s etc so it made sense, that was the only editing, it didn't change the structure of anything. Making something out of nothing. Tsk, tsk. Well if there is a US civil war ever going to happen in the future then I hope it doesn't last long.

Comrade_: Of course you will state that after deleting your comments. But I do recall you started with the insults after you called me a 'bastard' and a string of other insults. Unlike you my responses are still there and I support what I stated. If you feel butt-hurt it's not my prerogative. I'm not on this site to pet anyone or put up a façade and then try to erase my steps.
I don't really care to carry on a conversation with someone on your level.
At least the others around here have the balls to say what is on their minds and leave it up.

GeraldTheGnome: I did not start with the insults, it was the other way around, you didn't like the way your 'hero' was getting a bruising. Don't hijack David's forum and have respect for others. Your slander is still there, no one did anything to my butt (North American adopted term) so it's not hurt, only your ego was and is. I am up front I never put up a facade or erase my steps, I didn't erase anything because of you, I had other reasons that I'm not bringing up here but I'd hate to tell you this but it had nothing to do with you.

My level is higher than yours. If we were talking face to face then it would be a conversation but it is not. I have the balls, no one is saying anything literally on a text based site and I leave things up except for reasons that never actually had anything to do with you. This is about a possible US Civil War, how it could possibly start, what would prompt it to start and how it would end. This isn't just another golden opportunity for anyone with a fragile ego to be unfair to others that are and aren't on this site. I just want to be fair and want everyone else to be fair. I like David's forum, it's refreshing so go away and play with the other conspiracy theorists, hang out with those that like mentioning Africans getting forced birth control.

Comrade_: My comments are still there and shows no insults. I do know others read the conversation and knew what happened. I'll delete nothing. As for you Gerald, you can continue with your scum-behaviour. I liked that it bothered you so much that you had to delete your degrading comments and bring it back up here again. Meh join my fan-club, lots of room in there.