Will Portugal Spark the Revolution? (Page 2)

duncan124:
LOL!... is that pew from Germany by any chance??

And you have to remember that the majority of people working in the UK govt or close to it or the media are ethnic Germans.

In Portugal they had special conscription for the large part of the population with an 'ethnic German' background, the same as the UK one is, with a special ' agreement ' from the EU which had made all forms of conscription illegal.

Compare that to what happened at the end of Germany. No news of the Germans reached the UK and everything collapsed in Germany. When you asked people how things had changed they denied all knowledge of how things worked in Germany before just as Germans in the UK deny all knowledge of anything put in place to stop their bad behaviour.

The actual Germans did not want to go to the UK because they did not like their old cousins.

At least Portugal freely admitted that there is a problem and set about solving it.

duncan124:
I don't think that the Portuguese chose to confront their problems but it was forced upon them by how their economy was balanced.

Counties which limit the length of unemployment benefits as Portugal does also require the people living there to be able to live there. You can't hire workers and then say well there is no work Goodbye! and expect them to live on what they earned.

Camerons changes to the benefits system seem based of the Portuguese system which after the unemployment benefit runs out pays an attendance payment which is far smaller then the unemployed get.

The problem was that also suited the ethnic Germans who would divide a job between many of their own kind , each getting very low pay but after a while they could get unemployment benefit again, but there was no ' job creation ' and it suited a ' cellular ' view of society.

duncan124:
The BBC makes weak joke about Gay Marriage not being the voters main concern after Camerons attacks on people who speak Polish at home.

But still the Supernatural beasts must think the BBC is going to do what they say!

duncan124:
The BBC says;-

"David Cameron's support for gay marriage has made winning the general election "virtually impossible", Conservative activists have said.

In a letter to the PM, more than 30 past and present local party chairmen warned his backing for a change of law had led to voters switching to UKIP."

The Polish media claimed the Camerons anti-Polish speeches were because the UKIP was winning elections.

Rather like Macbeth the BBC has waded in too far to turn around and its lies about the rest of the world are dark clouds closing in around it.

Clearly the BBC also thinks it can hand Labour the next election like Mrs Macbeth giving Duncans crown.

The one party state continues.

duncan124:
One interesting ' news ' item. The Fake Humans have surfaced as the owners of the east coast wind turbines. The Fake Humans are well known around the east coast after several accidents revealed them while at work. Now it seems their housing management system it being deployed on the engineering work for the electricity generators.

duncan124:


Cameron refuses to answer questions about phone tapping.

duncan124:
Portugals Avante Communist newspapers rather heavy opinion about culture,

" Democratization of culture, understood and practiced as a factor of emancipation. This understanding and this practice will make a difference. Social and individual emancipation implies the enrichment of collective relations, the balance between relations of belonging and adventure of creation, recognizing the singularity and dignity of each individual, a growing awareness of our position in society and in the world..."

"... It is necessary and urgent to break with this policy disclaimer and financial asphyxiation, emptying and sidelined culture.A long heritage and sustained study and reflection, living experience and proposal, provide a sound basis for proposing some guidelines of principle and policy measures..."

Members of the one party state all use FB,Twitter and everything they can on the internet to find out about people who are talking about them in private.

No wonder people preferred US styles.

duncan124:
Govt pays wind farms;-

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/400755/Millions-for-wind-power-we-can-t-use

...from UKIP website link.

So Fake Human Cameron pays Fake Human Ken Turner millions!

Intolerance: Being a bunch of people that will protest and vandilize but not actually go to war, I estimate that Portugual will do nothing more than protest a crap load, and vote a lot of governments out of their parliment, but still be forced to pay back the Germans who wisely have share cropped Portugual into being its slave effectivily.

Nasty smart Germans took advantage of Portuguals Greed when times where good with easy credit, this is a lesson to other nations not to think that good times will last forever, be a little frugal.

duncan124:
I agree and from what the internet says the Portuguese had worries about what was happening

The Portuguese had some wacky plans about ' new ' industries that would make the economy grow and the Communists score a good point about how agriculture suffers when big business tries to take control by buying with large amounts of capital.

Different concepts produce very strange effects.

What did the UK Govt mean when it said unemployed people must have their benefits stopped if they go on holiday abroad? On the UK passports its says without ' let or hindrance ' but saying you are going to stop someone benefits for what could be several weeks is a sever threat.

Wireclubbers have written about 'what should people be allowed to buy...' and passports in several threads and have come to very different conclusions.

If you go on holiday in the UK your benefits are not effected but travel abroad is being stopped. Orwellian Society indeed

duncan124:
" ALL TO BETHLEHEM! "

"This Saturday, for another policy with other Government

The CGTP-IN trust that many thousands of people will attend the event which called for this Saturday afternoon, at the residence of the President of the Republic, to require that the government resign and call early elections."

From todays Avante!

duncan124:
Looks like it might be a wet bank holiday weekend!

Do you fancy doing something to change the Govt??

"... hasten the resignation of the Government

The challenge that the Communists and the workers have ahead is to rush through the struggle of the people for the resignation of the Government.

Words of Jerónimo de Sousa, on Sunday in Baleizão, at the rally in honor of Catherine Euphemia, murdered 59 years ago."

Avante! also has a theme from Othello but his doubts have been turned in to apples. I don't know why the BBC and Cameron have faked the story of the machete man. It is so obviously stolen from the Portuguese Left and even the page lay out is the same. Perhaps Cameron has been listening to The Manic Street Preachers - A Design For Life.

duncan124:
A quick look at Othello;-

duncan124:
" Prime Minister Donald Tusk PO loses a major weapon - fear of Law and Justice.

Jaroslaw Kaczynski is no longer for Polish political scare - according to a survey conducted for "Newsweek" by Millward Brown on a representative sample of Poles (1004 people).
Moreover, the vast majority of Poles (58 percent). Believes that Donald Tusk fired as a political leader, and therefore it would be good if early elections were held now. This solution is 47 percent of the respondents, while the expedited election against 43 per cent.

What does it mean? That the Poles want to change that rule "of hot water at the tap" is bored, or maybe after just forgot that governments PiS a cold shower, or if you prefer a bath in boiling water."

http://polska.newsweek.pl/dzwonek-alarmowy-dla-platformy,104680,1,1.html

The Polish really did n't like the western policing methods forced upon them by the west and disliked G Bush and everything he did.

The ' law and order ' party is more a ' social justice ' platform rejecting things the Polish don't like and is moving in to position as ' the Govt '.

Donald Tusk not Trump!

duncan124:
Rt news reports on Portugal poverty. Too many people too few jobs.

duncan124:
The BBC and Rt news report riots in Sweden. Someones idea I guess.

duncan124:

Miguel Sousa Tavares faces three years for calling president ‘a clown’
From 'Argarve Resident'

Well-known author and journalist Miguel Sousa Tavares is being investigated for calling Portugal’s president Anibal Cavaco Silva "a clown."

Tavares said Portugal did not need someone like Beppe Grillo, the comedian turned politician in Italy, as it already had a clown as leader.

For ‘offending the honour of the President of the Republic’ Tavares faces up to three years in prison.

Tavares's books and TV work are hugely well liked and an in an interview with newspaper Jornal de Negocios he said "we already have a clown, his name is Cavaco Silva." The newspaper also used this quote on its front page.

Cavaco Silva has little or no public support, especially over the blind pursuit of his cabinet's austerity policies, and is widely viewed as having lost his independence instead of being seen as above party politics. Polls show that people see Cavaco Silva as being aligned with the centre-right Passos Coelho coalition and his honour, however defined, is already below the level needed to maintain control over warring political parties.

Meetings of the Council of Ministers which Cavaco Silva calls and chairs have produced little more than bland, catch-all statements on what the government will do for the economy, clearly designed by a tired committee after many hours of pointless deliberation.

When the country needs a leader, yet can not unearth one within its ranks of ministers, the role of president becomes an increasinly important one. When a president is seen to be involved in party politics the public has a right to criticise and call him a clown if need be.
The attorney-general's office, prompted by whom, we wonder? is under a duty to investigate. If the state also has an arcane law that can be wheeled out to lock up journalists for criticising and poking fun then the jails soon will be brimming with scribes as the office of the President starts to unravel.

The President is making more of an ass of himself by countenancing this foolish move to investigate and maybe prosecute Tavares.

The president’s job description should include an item on ‘being grown up enough to take criticism in his stride.’

It is not yet know where the newspaper that printed the quote stands. Jornal de Negocios is of sufficient stature to stand up in court on a platform for free speech and journalistic independence. It's not as if many disagree with the statement after all...

duncan124:
Avante reports;-

" Many thousands of people were in Bethlehem on Saturday to support the demand for resignation of the government and early elections. Responded with loud applause and shouted "the people united will never be defeated", when Armenian Carlos challenged those who deny the existence of alternatives to have no fear of the popular vote."

http://www.avante.pt/pt/2061/emfoco/125411/

duncan124:
Today is Portugal’s ‘Tax Liberation Day’
By Brendan De Beer

The point in the year in which the typical Portuguese taxpayer can keep his earnings and stop paying the state – his “tax liberation day” has moved one day further in 2013 is now ‘celebrated’ today, 4 June.


For the fourth consecutive year, an EU wide calendar of “Tax Liberation Days” for typical workers in each of the 27 EU member countries has been released.

The study is published by New Direction – The Foundation for the European Reform and Institut économique Molinari (IEM) with data provided by accountants Ernst & Young.

Despite having to work more than five months to pay their dues to the state, Portuguese workers are still amongst those who work ‘least’ for the state, with 20 other European Union member states subjecting their citizens to longer periods.

But Portugal comes nowhere close to Cyprus, where they only have to work until 14 March to finance their government.

http://www.institutmolinari.org/taxes-are-on-the-rise-across-the,1358.html

The UKs freedom from tax day was May12th they claim.

duncan124:
The OECD said that rising prices were depriving Britons of any spare cash they have been able to muster. Britain has fallen from fifth place to 12th on a global list of wealth based on disposable incomes since the credit crisis began.

Supermarket analysts believe that the high inflation at the end of last year on such items as wheat and meat was beginning to fall.

Both the OECD and the Office for National Statistics put the UK’s inflation rate at 2.4%. But the rate elsewhere in Europe dropped even more. For example, the rate was 1.2% in Germany, 1.1% in Italy, 0.7% in France and a refreshing 0.4% in Portugal.

duncan124:

Álvaro Cunhal and the struggle of workers
A theory and practice determinants

May is the month quintessential speaking workers and their struggle. A centuries-old struggle for fundamental rights, a society without exploitation and oppression - a socialist society. A fight that had - and still has some way - in Alvaro Cunhal not only an advocate but rather consistent and dedicated builder: your class party, the Portuguese Communist Party, the difficult path to tread for your unit and organization; many battles, large and small, but always locked. these pages, using various works of Álvaro Cunhal and speeches made in public session "Álvaro Cunhal, organization and struggle of the workers' meeting in Porto on May 4, seek highlight key aspects of the thought and action of the historical communist leader about the organization and the workers' struggle.

Avante

duncan124:

'The answer that is imposed

The National Council of the CGTP-IN has decided to call a general strike for next June 27. This is the "necessary response to the serious situation in which the country is plunged," assures the ACFTU, convinced that the journey will have the support of all those who are the victims of government policy, and the troika. The PCP immediately welcomed the decision.'

From Avante

duncan124:
The BBC continues as it has been doing.

Today it claims that Tim Yeo MP is doing something / has done something.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22830707

As he was replaced some years ago by another MP it is difficult to see what the BBC means.

Polish and Portuguese newspapers have hinted at the connection.

Cameron pays Ken Turner millions for 'wind power' electricity.

Perhaps they read it here on wireclub first.

davidk14: .

The BBC sucks.

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