How should the USA react to the beheading of journalist James Foley? (Page 5) davidk14: . The long term solution is for the US Government to uphold the current laws of the United States and not allow illegal aliens into this country. Period. We have got to stop illegals from entering the country, living off of welfare, getting medical attention at zero cost, sending their kids to school at zero cost, and then have taxpayers provide for them indefinitely. That is . (Edited by davidk14) echidnatas: Are you sure about those points,I thought(though not versed in systems withing the USA) that to get welfare one would need to be registered in some form,this would I imagine extend to medical care past basic assistance found at a hospital emergency room,and if they were working that would entail paying income tax,none of which they could claim back in the form of an annual return. I am sure if I am wrong someone will point it out,I welcome this and any other info. alpossmar82: The concept of a THC type of IS warrior is oldish 2000 political religous satire, make some good right wing propaganda for students getting into the hippie culture, I guess that's why some campus's promote hari ksna to cover bases. davidk14: . echidnatas... How do you think all the illegal aliens get food, clothing, shelter, medical and education? They walk across the border and they get it all. Why do you think they come here for? Sure they get the $7.90 per hour job, but they need to feed the family unit of 5. They become eligible for welfare because they earn minimum wage. They get housing, food stamps, free medical and there kids go to school. Of course they come by the millions. However, this free stuff has got to stop. We can not afford this expense any longer. . davidk14: . That's why the Governor of Texas is sending National Guard troops to his border. New Mexico, Arizona and California will soon follow. Those states will pay the bill and then send the bills to Washington, DC. It is their responsibility to secure the border. The border will get closed, or almost closed. ISIS is enough of a threat that the government will get real paranoid that ISIS will come up from Mexico. They know its coming all right. . echidnatas: ISIS is a small organisation with little real experience in international terrorism,the easiest answer is to encourage other groups to assist in their demise. Around the world economic migration is an ever growing problem,If the answer is to keep people out ? Then that wall will have to be serious,barbed wire,mines,shoot on sight.How will it feel to have a death zone as a border? davidk14: . They currently are not reading the sign and have no respect for American law. That is why it is necessary to place boots on the border. Everyone who wants to move to America, the land of opportunity, has the opportunity to apply for citizenship and get in line like the rest who want to live here in America. That is the law. . echidnatas: yes it is the law ....i see no point laboring that point...however there are other issues davidk14: . echi... Here is one of those issues. This is a sign in the Arizona desert..actually, not far from where I live.... . electrician25hr: @davidk14 Those illegal immigrants have more right to live in America than you do. America is a land of immigrants. What gives your ancestors more right to move to America than the Mexicans who were born on this continent. If anyone is an illegal Immigrant its your ancestors AND YOU. I bet your ancestors were not even born on this continent but in some shit hole european country. Do we people a favor and move back to the shit hole country your ancestors crawled out of. echidnatas: Have to say its sad the way the rules alter when the horse gets the reins...These people try to get into the USA because of the conditions they live under.Where is the compassion that was a foundation stone of the greatest nation on earth?
echidnatas: "Al men are created equal but some more equal than others"George Orwell.We all know it and it has lost nothing over time davidk14: . electrician said: Those illegal immigrants have more right to live in America than you do. David responds: My family waited in line and immigrated here legally by following the law, just like tens of millions in the past. . davidk14: . Back on topic...ISIS Here is an AP article. Please read it and make sure you have something soft under your jaw.. Kerry, Hagel press nations to lay plans for fight against Islamic State by late September Published September 05, 2014 Associated Press NEWPORT, Wales – America's top diplomatic and defense leaders are pressing a core coalition of 10 nations to summon the willpower to go after the Islamic State group in Iraq militarily and financially. They are calling for solid plans by the time the United Nations General Assembly meets in two weeks. Secretary of State John Kerry tells foreign and defense ministers from the United Kingdom, France, Australia and other nations that they need a clear strategy and plan for what each will contribute. He says he knows many won't want to do military strikes, but can provide intelligence, equipment or weapons. He and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel spoke Friday during a meeting of nearly two dozen leaders. Kerry says NATO allies have technology and know-how, but need willpower to stick with the fight. AP _________________________________ Is this administration taking us to war? Like Al Quida for the Bush administration, it is now ISIS for the Obama administration. However, we are weaker militarily and financially but above all, our moral is very low and we do not trust Washington, DC very much right now. This administration may be trying to use a war to help regain power. . . echidnatas: Hard to say whats being planned,Until recently Obama was reluctant to enter into a conflict as it appears he has a core belief that political means will resolve issues.Of late people close to him have been heard to say "he's got it" meaning his approach has become military ..there has been a amount of chatter about what went wrong in Iraq possible preparing the stage for more military intervention...it is a time to listen not jump to conclusions orkanen: It's funny that there's a debate on whether one should enter Iraq and fight the Muslims, but no debate on whether one should enter Ukraine and fight the incognito Russian soldiers. Why so? | Politics Chat Room 39 People Chatting
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