is Israel seeing the next prophecy in the next few months-years? (Page 5)

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shadowline: The Quran, as I mentioned, postdates Jesus by about six centuries. The matter is as simple as that. Jesus was of course able to be literate with the Hebrew Scriptures because they didn't postdate him. They were all there for him to study while he was growing up. The Quran wouldn't be around for anyone to read until the middle of the seventh century.

The Quran contradicts the New Testament on more than one point, so, both texts cannot be supportive of the same revelation. As to the Kitab-i-Iqan, I said that Muslims regard it as a product of the imagination, not that I do. I can assure you they think the same thing about the Kitab-i-Aqdas.
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Zanjan: Countless people have said the Bible is full of contradictions but there are none. Those are only in the eye of the warped beholder and don't stand up to deep inspection and proof.

God sent every Prophet to clarify misunderstandings among the people, to get rid of their prejudices, superstitions, and strange notions arising from ignorance. That's what a Mediator does - He's God's own authority, Who settles disputes between humans.

If ever there was a Book in the ancient past one can't argue over, it's the Quran - it was dictated and approved by the Prophet, Himself - no third party stories. Straight Revelation and only Revelation.

The Kitab-i-Iqan and Kitab-i-Aqdas were expressly written in the Prophet's own handwriting, in modern language (not antiquated Arabic), and the originals still exist - even less reason to find flaws. These were delivered in the midst of a Muslim world.

By the way, Muslims don't read those Books so, not sure where you've heard their opinion of them. Whereas, a few rare and brave Christians have read the Quran. I've never seen them attempt to refute anything in it except the explanation of the station of Jesus.

Think: how can a Holy Book be all truth but one sentence a lie?
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shadowline: If you've never tried it, ask a Muslim for an opinion on the Kitab-i-Iqan or the Kitab-i-Aqdas. If he doesn't know what they are, tell him. I can guarantee you he will call them false scriptures.

There is no revelation after the Quran to a Muslim, there is no revelation after the New Testament to a Christian, and there is no revelation after the Hebrew Scriptures to a Jew.
Faiths are strictly defined, they have their boundaries.
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Zanjan: "If he doesn't know what they are, tell him. I can guarantee you he will call them false scriptures."

Agreed. The voice of ignorance is really silly, isn't it? Why would anyone be influenced by that?

I also agree that most deny any Prophet after their own Founder. I say "most" because some denominations have their internal prophets...so, not really a leap of faith.

It's not the religion that has boundaries, since their scriptures ALL contain prophecies and promises of a future Prophet. They all describe a 'day of Judgement' yet it seems its always the people doing the judging.

What you've described is a consistent pattern of human limitations. I wonder when people will wake up to that.
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: I seen a thing ,The World Zionist Council back in the late 1800"S had a Place in Africa and some where else forget where it was I will see if I can find it again , Picked out as a Homeland for the Jews But it ended up Being where Isreal is now
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: Strait Revelation for Revelation. Pitty he was listening to a demonic sprit . The Devil
I don't know why your not a Muslim Zanjan
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Zanjan: You've reminded me of the difference between Christians and Muslims.

When I tell a Christian I'm a Baha'i, some ask "What's that?', some don't, but they all look very disappointed that I'm not Christian. When I tell a Muslim, they just say "OK" and don't look disappointed.

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shadowline: Some in the Zionist movement in its earlier stages thought that East Africa might be a possible site for a Jewish country, and that Great Britain might be agreeable to helping them settle there. But the idea was rejected fairly quickly. The majority were for Palestine.
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The flying Squirrel: Yeah that was prolly it East Africa , I reckon this bloke has some good Points , Isreal is the Bigger Power , They could do more there, both got to, Instead of all the Propaganda we Hear and It Is Instutianlized , In both Governments
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: Must say I like this comment tho LOL
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee ( AIPAC ) needs to be dissolved, outlawed, or told to pack their bags and setup shop elsewhere outside the U.S. . They are not helping America. On the contrary they are hurting America so they need to inflict their damage elsewhere, like in their own home country of Israel where they really belong.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: I don't listen to people who protest. They're just a bunch of disruptive whiny babies, who have no solutions - they expect someone else (usually the government) to make them happy.

When will they learn they're after the wrong Messiah?
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Zanjan: Note: I'm not against "awareness" groups.........we should all be advised the mercury in the water is poisoning people, that we're down to the last 10 whales on earth and so forth. Lobbying through legislation is only a very small part of the solution and that doesn't happen on the street or in time to correct the damage.

Meanwhile, if you have PROBlems, especially one that's a thousand years old, it's time to shut the heck up. Realize, you don't deserve anything different than what you have. Resign yourself to the Will of God, be grateful for what you do have, and things will go better for you.
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Zanjan: Back to the topic, the OP said the "next Prophecy" was a war with Iran. He gave no source for this so called prophecy.

If this is a reference to the Ezekiel prophecy, that's a bit of a stretch, seeing as no modern day war would be launched with armies of horses and swords. You'd have to go back at least a couple hundred years to see that as the norm. (bayonets at the end of guns) However,the last success cavalry charge was at the battle of Poloj (October 17, 1942): The last charge of an Italian horse regiment during WWII.

Today, the SPCA would sweep in with the law and take your horses. (except for the Royal Canadian Mounties)

Five years ago, the OP wrote: " i dont know the future, i just know the outlines of it,
i guess somewhere from 4 to 10 years "

Last year, The Jerusalem Post had an article asserting this war is inevitable - that is, between Jerusalem and Tehran. Don't you think it's odd that two cities, belonging to different countries would be at war?

Obviously, Israel and Iran have never been friendly with each other but that's a far cry from direct, military combat and occupation.

The Ezekiel prophecy has "Elam" demoralized and debased, with their people being dispersed everywhere while the "Throne of God" is established in "Elam".

Most would agree that "Elam" was where Persia used to be (the region covering modern Iran and Iraq). There WAS a "war" between Israel and this region in the 80's - Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor and Saddam Hussein sent his cruise missals to fall on Israel. However, the event was called the Persian Gulf war. We know how that turned out.

The "Throne of God" is the seat of God's Revelation.........so, that's a high Prophet of God, a Revelator, according to Ezekiel, to be established in Elam. Now who could that be? Hmmmmmmm

Ezekiel lived around 600 B.C. Ring any bells?
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shadowline: Washington is swarming with advocacy groups. There is nothing unusual about that. AIPAC is one of the smaller ones. Israel has been virtually under siege the whole time it has existed, and is probably the most lied about country on earth, so, those who look out for it see good reason to be on the watch in its interest.

The United States is Israel's most valued ally, and the pressure is always mounting to try to separate the two countries. Witness the already notoriously anti-semitic Ilhan Omar. AIPAC has a perfectly legitimate role to play in supporting the only Jewish country there is. There are 22 Arab ones, their advocacy groups are just as active, and much, much, better funded.
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: , AIPIC is virtully the evolution of the World Zionist Council ,, there gone from the British to America , your Opion its a small rag tag group
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The flying Squirrel: Were got Jewish people living Here , Always has been , No one Advocating the Government tho but I suppose theres no need is there
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The flying Squirrel: Must be a prety Intolerant Bunch In America and Anti semetic is all I can say if that"s needed
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The flying Squirrel: Ok Let me Put It This way , World Zionist Council , Was because There wasn"t a Jewish State , Now there Is , IE Isreali Government takes over Role as World Zionist Council , There is an Isreali Embassy there , So I dont know what your Favouite group is for
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: Yeah I donno Zanjan , Not really a fan of all this Prophacy stuff latley
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The flying Squirrel: Don't know how you say theres better funded Advocacy groups for Arabs In the US unless your talking about Saudi Arabia
My personal option is they should mind there own buiness there both after weapons and Military support
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shadowline: Embassies are for diplomatic relations, not advocacy. Israel needs advocacy, just as it needs allies, because it has many enemies. It is in constant danger, and those who wish it harm, or non-existence, never sleep.
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: But how, There Adoctaing , Its about Critizim of Isreal, And Labling any one as anti Semetic
Whole lot of that Apac thing Was about that ,Congress woman who Critized Isreal , And Saying Like you Just did , Virtully Compairing Her to Some one Who Wants to Destroy it , Mike Pense Mike Pompao Where giving there Speechs How It Wont Be Tolarated , In any shape or Form

Since When Can"t Critisim Of Countries Even if there your Allies, Be done by a senator or congress what ever She Is , She Didn"t Critize Jews, Just Political policy

That Bloke Who Shot Up The Synaguag , That"s Anti Semitic , But turing it into Any one Who says any thing about Isreal Thats Craxy

Were copping It Here , Our Politions are to Blame for the New Zealand Attack
No It Was"t our Politions, It was all These people who Have Been around for Years Going if you say any thing about ISLAM and Its Maily Immagration, your a Racist Islamaphobic , Hate Speech Your a Discraseful person All this Stuff, Political Correctness The Media all the Rest

Like the Attacks In Europe If you Take away peoples Right to Talk about there Grevences , They act out in Other Ways Usually With Violence cos they cant see any other Way
The Bloke from here in NZ even said as Much , Before He Did it , IN FACT thats why he said he did it to Spark debate,


Now How Is this any Different , This is why these things Happen , And Its Politalsing Religion , Witch ever Side , Its only going to Cause More Harm in the Long Run, More Attacks More Pointless stuff

What Happened to Freedom of Speech in America What Are they Advocating For

Do you Think Isreal Is So Above the Law Of Anything That Not a word Can Be said About it , Or your a Racist Anti Semitic , No better than Hitler, Thats prolly having thoughts to destroy it, Whole worlds Gone Nuts , Dont need to be a Prophet to see that
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The flying Squirrel
The flying Squirrel: I thought Trump god Rid Of Political Correctness , Well he Better Tell Mike Pompos Mike Pence And Prolly Himself ,
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The flying Squirrel: What makes me Laugh about that New zealand thing , Is the Very people that have been going On With Islamaphobia Racism White Suppremists , All The rest , There Going Oh we told you So , NO people told YOU lot so , You want to Invent all these terms , Islamaphobic Anti Semtic and Use them at the Drop of a Hat , Well Next time it Happens BLAME YOURSELVES
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shadowline: The trouble is that Israel isn't just "criticized". It is demonized. Every gesture it makes is attacked and damned by standards that are not applied to any other country on earth. Misrepresenting it has become an art form and an obsession.

And what AIPAC is there to counteract is much worse than that. Every possible weapon is used to disadvantage Israel internationally and in its relations with the United States - from diplomatic manoeuvres to legal actions to threats. The task of defending Israel on that front is virtually never ending.
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