History is a Guilt Trip? (Page 3) davidk14: . lori...your message over and over and over, post after post, thread after thread... government is bad and bad people are manipulating bad government, that a few people run the world. That all terrorism is about those bad people controlling all the money. We got it. We need not read your posts over and over and over. Your message is loud and clear. .  lori100: It takes a lot to wake people up....it's working little by little...........so....are you ok with the govt plotting and succeeding at killing citizens..?....does it bother you at all....? davidk14: . I also have problems with doctors aborting fetuses but I do not blame the government. I have a problem with people thinking that unborn fetuses are not human beings. Is there a conspiracy here? No...just stupidity. . lori100: Here are 2 more crazy conspiracy theorists....JFK...Woodrow Wilson.--------------.....-----------------This is a portion of the speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961. "The President and the Press" before the American Newspaper Publishers Association.-------- http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/BqXIEM9F4024ntFl7SVAjA.aspx?gclid=CKqf1Yj6yqkCFQQ7gwod1y0bLw--------------JFK----------"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. No President should fear public scrutinity of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed." ----------------------------------------Woodrow Wilson----------“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. "  Metaverseguy: History is a way for people to complain about something they don't know about, built off of lies passed around for centuries in a way of life so different that there is absolutely no comparison to today or the last 100 years. Up until about 1800 if you knew how to read you probably actually respected the bible and other holy books. Today, you can probably learn more useful stuff scrolling through the comments section on porn web sites or youtube.  PuppYofDoom: I like war and always look forward to it. We will always try to justify something so ppl get hired to say petty crap for those whose minds are easily sated. its like crowd control. War ='s new technology. New growth. War Breaks down the barriers between two cultures. War brings new advances in medicine everytime. War Will pay for Medschool for me. War is gracious War is kind. War loves those who love it. War is teaches us the humility and value of life because we cant pass on the experiences of the mind. - woof PuppYofDoom: thanks morning_glorie, we dont really have that... but uh.. i guess ill say what youre trying to tell me to YOU.. Kill yourself. You should only give advice youre willing to take. im going for medical. ur also one of those impeach Obama fox news loving southern people.. dont you like war too..  (Edited by PuppYofDoom) Metaverseguy: I saw an interesting video on the Americas before Columbus. 1000 - 1491. They focused mainly on agriculture, how the civilizations collapsed, different domesticated animals, crops, game that was used for food, and differences in landscape between Europe and America. Hardly a mention of war, and I admit it would have been difficult because the natives didn't keep any written records, but it was nice to hear all the other stuff.  duncan124: I don't think anyone ever lived that village under the rock. By anyone I mean like a community. Scientists have shown that all the things found there could have been made or put there naturally Metaverseguy: It seems like history is just a large clump of events. It defines something important as when large groups of people united by religion, borders, or language clash with opposers. Something important is also when an invention improve's everyone's life. But the idea that all events are connected and that we can learn from our mistakes I think is a misnomer. Some people mistakenly think history is like a narrative with a beginning, a middle, and an end. This would be the eschatological view of things, from a biblical perspective. That if we live good lives Jesus will return and fix all the imperfections and unfairness. Marx also looked at history this way in a secular fashion and sought to correct it for the poor people by Communism. However, this didn't really accomplish anything. The Utopias never amounted to anything and nations still preferred resolving conflicts militarily rather than with peaceful resolutions. If history is progress why has Jerusalem and Arabia been at war for centuries for the same reasons? In reality, we learn about history not from the idea that all has been settled, but rather that at any moment in time a giant Fascist empire could arise in a year. The freedom and liberty we (i.e. not us) earned through bloodshed basically gives us the freedom to work away our lives for small salaries. If I can look at the words of a writer from 2,000 years ago and see him talk about the same frustrations that people experience today what is the point of making an effort to do anything? lori100: Wars don't just happen ...they are planned....the powers that be make sure to keep wars going , to keep chaos around the world...the ruling banking family is the Rothschild family, they fund the wars.....Mrs. Rothschilds--"If my sons didn't want any wars there wouldn't be any" Metaverseguy: Yes, I've read an article online about them. Not only are they successful, but successful all the way back until the 1700's. I'd be surprised if one family could be blamed for all the events of 10 people let alone more than 300 million. First, the government was to blame for all the evil in the world, including somehow the DMV and department of education, now it is a small banking family. Would you please make up your mind? lori100: It is the Rothschilds, the govt---they are both illuminati and create all the wars funded by the banks the same way they funded the Nazis...------------------Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., quotes about Banking: When the President signs this act [Federal Reserve Act of 1913], the invisible government by the money power -- proven to exist by the Monetary Trust Investigation -- will be legalized. The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created. ----------------------------Louis McFadden, quotes about Banking: It was not accidental [the 1929 stock-market “crash”]. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. ... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all. (Edited by lori100) davidk14: . Lori....you started your last comment, "...It is the Rothschilds, the govt...". Lori, a few questions I have. What are the names of the people that were elected or hired into the government? And, from what years to what years are suggested? Show the evidence of meetings, e-mails and other documentation of the meetings between the ' Rothschild's and the government' and the other communications with the other illuminate. There is always one individual that would come forward and roll on them. Right. Otherwise no one would know. Right? Who is the investigators reporting on this? . lori100: David, have you read my posts on the Illuminati Lorry thread in Science?....lots of info there---all the Presidents, most Senators and congressmen are illum, the ones who belong to the same organizations, go to the same secret meetings such as the current Bilderberg meeting . Fritz Springmeier has done many years of research on the illum....see his info, website, videos.... davidk14: . Lori...Secret Meetings? If they are secret, how do you know they are secret if being secret means know one knows so if it is secret how would anyone know because it is secret and know one knows.  . lori100: The media has been banned from them , except recently some media has reported on the Bilder. meeting as well as others ---like when some of the former presidents and other illum met in Africa months ago... lori100: Bilderberg 2014 roundup: privacy, transparency and Birkin ... The Guardian - 8 hours ago As the Scandinavian sun almost but not quite sets on Bilderberg 2014, we can finally take a breath and look back at a significant year. So what ... davidk14: . The media is banded from meetings in most companies. Does this make them secret meetings? . lori100: Could be...what are they hiding from the public? ...They are supposed to serve the public...
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