Syrian Conflict (2011-now) (Page 8)

SWlNE:

There's no direct public proof of that but Turkey is only getting verbal condemnation. I've not seen any attempts to control their impact. Maybe a sign that they're encouraged? But the US knows they need Turkey.
Can you imagine the antics that'd take place if it was Iran doing the same thing Turkey is doing? haa Messed up world this is.

gronchbove: Filth, you are making good points. Where are most Syrian and Iraqi refugees going? Turkiye.

Guardian story:

"Turkey deploys tanks on its borders to hold back human tide of Syrians fleeing ISIS"

Thus, Turkiye can claim to be using troops to create order due to all of the refugees.

I guess, there was an explosion in Ankara, Turkiye. I don't really trust these false flags, but Turkiye is blaming the Kurds.

Truly messed up world.

gronchbove: Here is a good video made by "Syrian gangs" in Aleppo. They are attacking the government and Kurdish forces. Notice how they are using United States "anti-tank" TOW missiles. You don't just find those laying on the ground.



Filth, I put this in the Trump forum by mistake.

Sorry.

dave3974: Good point , what on earth is the USA trying to achieve -- possibly the same as what they caused in libya

gronchbove: Dave, yes. I have listened to career American generals saying the same thing. Did you see the video with Wesley Clark?

He basically said that he was talking to an elite and the elite said the "US was gonna invade Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan ...." and this was like 2003 or so.

It is the sign of "horrible leadership." None of us can make any sense of US foreign policy. That is what happens before empires fall.

US does not even have an embassy in Libya, because the US messed it up so much.

davidk14: .

Wesley Clark is a left wing, liberal, progressive pussy and for you to mention him shows your ignorance.

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gronchbove: No, can you read, David?

I said "American generals are turning on the American foreign policy."

It does not matter their political bent, it shows that the entire world is turning on AmeriKKKa.

davidk14: .

American Generals that did not support this administration have been sacked by Obama.

If it is true that the entire world has turned on America, blame the commander is chief....Obama.

This is why Trump is doing so well. His motto is....I am going to make America great again.

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SWlNE:
The entire world has turned on America? You do realise that this type of meddling under the guise of 'foreign policy' in the ME has been occurring prior to the current administration right? And Trump has not shown that he will address the US' foreign policy.

Stop parroting and think.

gronchbove: David and Filth, can you name any American War that has been bundled this badly?

Not even Vietnam.

And remember that Russia had lost the Cold War.

Due to the ineptitude of Obama, Bush, Clinton and the present geopolitical fools, Russia has re-emerged as a Superpower and the entire Middle East may be turning against America.

Then what will Israel do?

SWlNE:
Answer to that is all the US-led wars.

There should've been a move to creating calm and not political chaos. There should've been direct talks with Assad and his opposition a structured arrangement not an undermining by arming and supporting these groups.

Not sure if this will turn Russia into the next superpower but it has certainly given Russia an upper hand.

gronchbove: Filth is right.

Think about war. When it all over, you have to sit down and talk, right? Well, why not do that BEFORE the war. Then you save all those lives.

The US has power, but even it must follow the Universal Law. When it does not, it will fail.

davidk14: .

You're both just throwin shit against the wall to see what sticks. And your gronch, to agree with the mentally ill....I'm surprised at you....or not

SWlNE:
Nothing to refute the statements, Davidk14? If you notice in this thread we're all about having discussions and if you have a point you have to make it. If you're not capable of adding then why comment to make yourself look like a child.

gronchbove: No, David, that is "projection." You described American foreign policy, right there.

They lie and lie and lie and lie.

To all criminal actions, there is a punishment.

SWlNE:
It was too much of an avoidable situation, Gronch.

gronchbove: Filth, by their "inability to be adults," they are proving our point:

"The World must look elsewheres to find real solutions to the future problems."

And the world IS doing so.

Children are not leaders.

davidk14: .

Filth you are right about America. You would love Obama. You would probably vote for him even though he is the cause of all the unrest in the world.

And....

You both have been asked to answer a question, does Israel have the right to exist....yes or no. Since neither of you have responded to many requests, the alternative is for everyone to believe you support the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews.

Since this is the case, you two being pathetic is an understatement.

SWlNE:
And there it is, the childish remark by Davidk14 begging to be ignored.

It's a shame though Gronch, there is no genuine 'elsewhere' to look.

davidk14: .
And....

You both have been asked to answer a question, does Israel have the right to exist....yes or no. Since neither of you have responded to many requests, the alternative is for everyone to believe you support the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews.

Since this is the case, you two being pathetic is an understatement.

SWlNE:
Topic: Politics

Spamming will be reported as it messes up the discussions. You got a response on another thread, see link above. Control yourself, don't throw a tantrum now.

gronchbove: Filth, if you notice David's continued technique:

Projection.

He tells you what you would do.
He tells you what you think.
He tries to put words in your mouth.

All tactics to try to hide their own lack of reason.

SWlNE:
It's mostly strawman fallacies and throwing insults when he loses a discussion. I saw others complaining about it in older threads.

davidk14: .

It's all about the truth boys and girls. If you live your life with truth, honor and dignity...here is a great saying I like...

All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is surrender. For it is all give and no take

Use truth as your anvil, nonviolence as your hammer and anything that does not stand the test when it is brought to the anvil of truth and hammered with nonviolence, reject it.

So, here is something for you two....when your kids are grown up, and they read these posts of yours. you really expect them to agree that Israel does not have the right to exist?

Think about it.

.Be honest if not for yourselves, but for your children.

SWlNE:
On more positive news regarding the topic:

The UN is planning to air drop food and other aid to a Syrian city besieged by the so-called Islamic State (IS), officials have said.

A "concrete plan" was in place for the operation over the eastern city of Deir al-Zour, said Jan Egeland, who chairs a humanitarian taskforce.

Convoys of UN trucks on Wednesday began delivering much-needed aid to 80,000 people in five other besieged areas.

The UN says 200,000 residents remain besieged in parts of Deir al-Zour.


Source:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35606769