The Robots are coming (Page 44) ghostgeek: Had to check: Self-driving trucks have begun to hit the roads in the United States, but they’re already hard at work in Australia. British mining company Rio Tinto has 73 autonomous behemoths transporting iron ore 24 hours a day in West Angelas, Australia, across four job sites, according to MIT Tech Review. The autonomous fleet is roughly 15% cheaper than one with human drivers. The trucks, made by Japanese manufacturer Komatsu, weigh 416 tons and use a mix of GPS, radar, and laser sensors to navigate a site. Their job is simple: go to a load site, wait to be filled with iron ore, and then drive to another location. Komatsu estimates that their autonomous trucks have already hauled 1 billion tons of material, mainly in Australia and Chile. The human team overseeing the robots work 750 miles away, according to MIT Tech Review, far from being able to physically take action should something go wrong. [ https://qz.com/874589/rio-tinto-is-using-self-driving-416-ton-trucks-to-haul-raw-materials-around-australia/ ] Does seem there is some human oversight but it's a long way away. ghostgeek: Caterpillar, an American Komatsu competitor, says its autonomous trucks provide the same work as a skilled truck driver no matter where the site is located, meaning mining companies don’t need to worry about the quality of local labor in remote mines. The company also points to the trucks’ ability to alert mine staff the second it notices any abnormalities on the site. However, the fact remains that these machines are replacing well-paying jobs. And mining certainly isn’t the end. While the work sites can be more complex, construction is also fertile ground for automation. Construction inspection might be a first step towards automation in the field, like automatically assessing railway tracks or using drones for building inspections. [ https://qz.com/874589/rio-tinto-is-using-self-driving-416-ton-trucks-to-haul-raw-materials-around-australia/ ] ghostgeek: Bye bye more jobs: The Syama mine in Mali was originally developed by BHP as an open cast gold mine in the 1980s, but since being taken over by Resolute Mining in 2015, it has undergone some extraordinary changes as it prepares to become the first purpose-built automated mine in the world. “Most automation journeys start with existing underground operations and then retrofit automation into them, whereas we’ve designed the mine, we’re the first mine to put all the different pieces together,” says Resolute managing director John Welborn. “That means that right from the bolting or the clearing of the drill point, to the extraction of the ore and the loading of the ore into the haul trucks to the operational haul trucks, all of those activities will be performed by automated machinery.” [ https://www.mining-technology.com/features/sizing-syama-worlds-first-fully-automated-mine/ ]  Fractured fairy tale: Yeah defently on the Way . They want to build a New Mine that will be Fully Autonomous from Scratch . But what Id call fully Automated arnt here yet . Don't mean there not Expermenting with it ATM Fractured fairy tale: Thing with the New mine there been going on about for ages . The "experts" say oh it will create 1400 new Jobs .
What the "experts" arnt telling everyone them jobs will only be in the Constitution of it . Once its built they will hardly need anyone to run it  chronology: Ghost, wait until Australia begins automating those gigantic wheat fields they have over there. Australian farmers can plant, harvest and transport vast amounts of wheat with practically no workers at all. Even the huge freight ships that carry the wheat do not need sailor's anymore. Fractured fairy tale: Oh did educated Americans trll you that too . Americans will tell you . Blah blah Go suck up to your corperations ghostgeek: One in four Europeans want artificial intelligence — not politicians — to be making important decisions about how their country is run. In the UK and Germany, the proportion is even higher: one in three. In the Netherlands, fully 43 percent want AI to decide policy. These striking findings come from a new survey conducted by the Center for the Governance of Change at IE University in Spain, which polled people in eight European countries. The questions explored how citizens feel about the way technology is transforming the world, from the workplace (40 percent think their company will disappear in a decade if it doesn’t make big changes) to the public square (68 percent fear that people will socialize more digitally than in person). [ https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/27/18283992/ai-replace-politicians-europe-survey ] I wonder why? Fractured fairy tale: Yep That will be on the way no Doubt The Nerve Centres of the Countries will be hooked up To the Hive Brain A HAL 3000 or Something  (Edited by Fractured fairy tale) Fractured fairy tale: So get your Computer chip Implant if you want to be part of the Brave New World chronology: Ghost. Don't think that AI can handle the none stop crazy situations people get themselves into that they call politicians to try and get them out of. Everything from their daughter's running away to live in an Amazon jungle commune to take mind altering drugs, to having their parrot stolen by a neighbor, to people saying that they are abducted by Aliens. Politicians face totally new and out of the ordinary situations every day, and even at night when they are at social functions. AI can never be programmed to deal with that never ending flow of unpredictability. Speaking of never ending flows, fairy don't respond to my post's. I can make no sense of your gibberish and distorted views other than you have an infantile compulsion to engage American's in harangues. Fractured fairy tale: Im Im sorry I was under the Impression it was a free world . Despite your Mark Zuckerber Complex . When you Refeered to Educated Americans a page back I assume you were Referring to yourself . Bit Patronizing ant it Bit hard Not to Engage Americans around here Seeing as tho everything is about America or an American point of view Patronize away you seem to be good at it ghostgeek: There is a tried and tested method of dealing with human unpredictability. Outlaw it! Get everybody marching in step and shouting the same slogans. If the North Koreans can do it, I don't think it will prove impossible for A.I. Fractured fairy tale: Huge Wheet Farms  Educated Americans gushing praise oh AI  (Edited by Fractured fairy tale) ghostgeek: I've found out the hard way that A.I. is anything but intelligent. Tried making a computer at the end of a phone line understand which department I wanted to speak to and failed. ghostgeek: Nasa is hoping to build a nuclear propulsion system which would allow a spacecraft to travel to the nearest star. While humanity has explored large parts of our own Solar System, the distances to another star system are, literally, astronomical. Nasa's Voyager 1 became the first spacecraft to venture into interstellar space in 2012. But even if the 10-miles-per-second probe were heading in the right direction, it would take it 70,000 years to reach our closest star Alpha Centauri, which is 4.37 light years away, or 25 trillion miles. However, Dr Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator at Nasa's Science Mission Directorate, believes that it might be possible. [ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2020/02/16/nasa-reaches-stars-nuclear-propelled-spacecraft/ ] I wonder how much a one-way ticket will cost? chronology: Sorry ghost, but even plane's today don't carry air tanks, they make their own oxygen. NASA is said to prefer a natural base for air supply using plants. The long distance flight would have it's own eco system. Folks who go for those morning walks in the vast Forrest's of Oregon or Washington State insist they feel more refreshed after walking the paths in the forests due to the high levels of fresh oxygen produced by the millions of trees around them. Don't know if this is folklore or fact. Must be refreshing, but who knows why. Walking along gives you a buzz because of all those billions of ions produced by waves which people breath in. chronology: Never. To remove the forest from the snow peaked mountains of Oregon and end the exhilaration of walking in those aromatic surrounding of uplifting high oxygen stimulation would be a crime against nature. ghostgeek: Maybe our illustrious Big Brains are being a little timid. If matter and energy are just different aspects of the same thing, whatever that is, then surely the best way to get to the stars is to convert ourselves to energy and beam over to our stellar neighbours. | Politics Chat Room 78 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
