Our Dishonest President (USA) Web Weaver: It is impossible to know where his presidency will lead or how much damage he will do to our nation. [ http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-ed-our-dishonest-president/#nt=oft02a-2la1 ] Web Weaver: In the days ahead, The Times editorial board will look more closely at the new president, with a special attention to three troubling traits: Trump’s shocking lack of respect for those fundamental rules and institutions on which our government is based. Since Jan. 20, he has repeatedly disparaged and challenged those entities that have threatened his agenda, stoking public distrust of essential institutions in a way that undermines faith in American democracy. He has questioned the qualifications of judges and the integrity of their decisions, rather than acknowledging that even the president must submit to the rule of law. He has clashed with his own intelligence agencies, demeaned government workers and questioned the credibility of the electoral system and the Federal Reserve. He has lashed out at journalists, declaring them “enemies of the people,” rather than defending the importance of a critical, independent free press. His contempt for the rule of law and the norms of government are palpable. Web Weaver: His utter lack of regard for truth. Whether it is the easily disprovable boasts about the size of his inauguration crowd or his unsubstantiated assertion that Barack Obama bugged Trump Tower, the new president regularly muddies the waters of fact and fiction. It’s difficult to know whether he actually can’t distinguish the real from the unreal — or whether he intentionally conflates the two to befuddle voters, deflect criticism and undermine the very idea of objective truth. Whatever the explanation, he is encouraging Americans to reject facts, to disrespect science, documents, nonpartisanship and the mainstream media — and instead to simply take positions on the basis of ideology and preconceived notions. This is a recipe for a divided country in which differences grow deeper and rational compromise becomes impossible. Web Weaver: His scary willingness to repeat alt-right conspiracy theories, racist memes and crackpot, out-of-the-mainstream ideas. Again, it is not clear whether he believes them or merely uses them. But to cling to disproven “alternative” facts; to retweet racists; to make unverifiable or false statements about rigged elections and fraudulent voters; to buy into discredited conspiracy theories first floated on fringe websites and in supermarket tabloids — these are all of a piece with the Barack Obama birther claptrap that Trump was peddling years ago and which brought him to political prominence. It is deeply alarming that a president would lend the credibility of his office to ideas that have been rightly rejected by politicians from both major political parties.  lori100: the country has always been divided and the media is liberal and always for the democrat candidates.... they showed how ignorant and biased they are and deserve to be ignored and ridiculed... lori100: mind control of people, the govt plotting to kill citizens by flying planes into buildings and blame it on Cuba......these are actual conspiracies that happened....judges should be questioned on their qualifications...almost anyone can become a judge ...they all have their own agendas... (Edited by lori100) lori100: lie----to get support for another war..... ---Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com www.salon.com/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/ Salon exclusive: Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before ... Web Weaver: Part II- Why Trump Lies Donald Trump did not invent the lie and is not even its master. Lies have oozed out of the White House for more than two centuries and out of politicians’ mouths — out of all people’s mouths — likely as long as there has been human speech. This is the second in a series. [ http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-ed-why-trump-lies/ ]  S W l N E: It's not odd that Trump lies. What is odd is that even after the truth is outlined and rebuttals made his fervent supports make excuses on it and try to twist his direct lies "he meant this." It's up to Trump fanatics to be more critical and logical. He sees he's getting away with his tactics so why will he change? Leaders tend to be what they're allowed to be. Trump is a product of a lazy mentality. Web Weaver: It's only a question of time before he gets this country into trouble and I'm hoping that the country is prepared. lori100: like I said long before the election.,..it's not the smartest or most logical person who will be president...it is the one who connects with voters...Obama was charismatic, Hillary wasn't, Trump was charismatic, Hillary wasn't as usual... Bill Clinton was charismatic, Reagan was charismatic... lori100: The 7 Biggest Liars in Presidential History | Alternet www.alternet.org/culture/7-biggest-liars-presidential-history Lies are sometimes necessary evils when presidents want to get something accomplished. America is built on the myth of honesty. “I cannot tell ... Web Weaver: Lori, I don't even know how to respond to your posts. I do respect your right to post on my threads though. Just, please, don't expect a reply from me concerning anything you post. Web Weaver: I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't believe in conspiracy theories. I'm sure you mean well and I do respect you having a voice. lori100: np, most people don't know how many conspiracies have turned out to be true...a list -----33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every ... www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread531572/pg1 Web Weaver: Feel free to post on my threads though, I can overlook and choose to ignore anything posted that I don't agree with. You never know, you might meet someone like minded. briansmythe: Lori when did they fly a plane into a building and blame Cuba? Trump won cos he took advantage of not towing the Political correctness bull that any one with a brain was totally sick of Oh yeah still waiting for him to start WW3 (Edited by briansmythe) briansmythe: where did web weaver go prove that global warming isn't a conspiracy dreamed up by China lori100: wiki--------Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The plans detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration----------------To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated: The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere. Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington". The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. ----------------------------The memorandum outlines Operation Bingo, a plan to "create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba." It also includes Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying: "The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al. Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans." Even after General Lemnitzer lost his job as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs of Staff still planned false-flag pretext operations at least into 1963. A different U.S. Department of Defense policy paper created in 1963 discussed a plan to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States (OAS) so that the United States could retaliate. The U.S. Department of Defense document says of one of the scenarios, "A contrived 'Cuban' attack on an OAS member could be set up, and the attacked state could be urged to take measures of self-defense and request assistance from the U.S. and OAS." ---------------Included in the nations the Joint Chiefs suggested as targets for covert attacks were Jamaica and Trinidad-Tobago. Since both were members of the British Commonwealth, the Joint Chiefs hoped that by secretly attacking them and then falsely blaming Cuba, the United States could incite the people of the United Kingdom into supporting a war against Castro.[ lori100: northwoods^-------------Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs worked out a complex deception: An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CJA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft]. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency a "May Day" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MiG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft, which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO [International Civil Aviation Organization radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the U.S. what has happened to the aircraft instead of the U.S. trying to "sell" the incident. Finally, there was a plan to "make it appear that Communist Cuban MiGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack." It was a particularly believable operation given the decade of shoot downs that had just taken place. Lavdi1: Lori: you are full of shit. If it is okay with your conservative masters, could you bring out the community uterus that you advocate--we need the ashtray.
lori100: have no idea what that means....does it have something to do with the uterus hats worn at the women's /liberal march? | Politics Chat Room 30 People Chatting Similar Conversations |