When religion meets politics? (Page 3)

MJ59
MJ59:
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: The health care system birth to death has much influence of religion too. Though many ideas on how things should be done vary per hospital.
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MJ59
MJ59: Yeah thats why I like public hospitals, just care...no BS
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Some feel there should be those that pull up boot straps with no boots or straps. Logic is not the best with some.
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MJ59
MJ59: Yeah, the world's becoming a weird place lol
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MJ59
MJ59: Catch ya later, good chat .... bed time here
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Have a good rest. Morning here. Got to get going myself.
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The giant midget
The giant midget: Politicians in past 150 years have adopted and copied the way religious leaders have recruited its followers to a very high degree of success
Good personality is a must even when it's fake , be a good listener ( it helps in finding your followers wishes and weaknesses ), blame the evils and curses on the opposition , reenforce multiple times your directives ,induce fear and crises to reaffirm your objectives it is your best arsenal , demand that your followers recruit others , always speak in big crowds ,


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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Some do not even need to say truth or listen to be followed. However if followers belief is strong enough in any leader they can sway such crowds easily.
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MJ59
MJ59: Sheeps
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theHating
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Lol I remember that South Park episode.
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DIAMONDfire
DIAMONDfire: there's no line the issue is taboo. breaking it making it is all the same. the critical question is does law work? because in that climate will is shattered and mob rule takes more of a centre stage.
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theHating
theHating: Evangelicals: "states rights! States rights!"

States: *votes for joe biden*

Also Evangelicals: "let's the scotus overturns this"
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Actually on the pulpit when I went to church it was majority right leaning. People think all are for abortions for fun that lean left and all the stereotypes. I didn't vote Obama but I didn't vote Bush second time either with that.

Yes churches influence votes and so does ALEC. Though when it comes to churches thinking alike they really don't denominations verses each other to keep churches open with members.
" Biden" place any candidate right or left but not third party there.
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: Swamp and Hating true
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DIAMONDfire
DIAMONDfire: maybe you could say religion is concerned with a heavenly kingdom while politics is concerned with an earthly civilisation. it would be good not to mix the two because that creates dissonance. i reckon that in any golden age there would have been one presiding law or way. so technically understanding the difference would be advantageous. but i guess thats what they call pluralism. not sure what to make of it? third eye!
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Dimjim55
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DIAMONDfire
DIAMONDfire: give us our daily bread. means its about forgiveness not eternal life. ? there's a blending of earthly and heavenly worlds. i suppose that if god is love that would make sense. i think thats spirituality though.
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DIAMONDfire
DIAMONDfire: there's revelations throughout the bible (Daniel especially). but surely that is not the goal? of Christianity. ?
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The giant midget
The giant midget: Church and state should not be allowed to mix
The houses of Gods and Goddess should only practice or preach religion not influence of political power or ideologies
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DIAMONDfire
DIAMONDfire: I think I have an existential view of the bible. jesus was a man who died for the law of god. i think its about heaven and being something of a lawyer on earth. i don't think thats political.
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: In story he tipped tables ...so even if so ...people still use religion and then people do not question so much as part of laws. Not only one sort of religion but there are statues of all sorts from crosses to ancient gods used as ideology on government buildings. In the end however besides this and people creating things in stone ...even building towers ...there are those that use the masses to sway into such whatever denomination.
It maybe a thing of interpretation and translation...though this is not about blaming gods and goddesses even though all holy books and texts are written by humans.

Also did Jesus really die or did he come back? Is he like the Mormons say or like other religions say else where? Is he an alien like some believe or look like any of the paintings really? Are people really forgiven or still sent to whatever version of a hell or purgatory that many religions have whatever way differently, or reincarnated? There are so many creation stories and many ideas of gods that really seems all the same chance to me.
Though I digress I guess as stated it is not just about particular religions and interpretation of laws or rules how ever many variations and even subjective views of individuals of such excuses in beliefs.

The thing about laws is one can make such with out a god and claim whatever from slavery to how to deal with child marriage. The way people deal with such to kill in war to whatever excuses even trail of tears in history leads. Even if people rather not all the facts and choose whatever views they rather of such things of history at present in many countries whatever cultures have still interpretation what people do through such laws religiously in traditions, how people eat, how they sit with others, how they are walking with opposite sex, how they interact with the same sex, how they get punished, and so on. Some may whip and stone, and what death penalty in such punishments even though there in the same is said " thou shall not kill".
Even if contradictions humans create besides the interpretations is it even possible from art to music ...from how people interact by manners to deal with conflict to entirely separate religion from such long history humans have with such in various competition?
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AretoNyx
AretoNyx: So many heavens or beliefs of types...whatever you wish to feel. Some think there is a caste system but other in the same places influenced by history of such religious views of reincarnation say nothing of caste system exists , but some ways of poverty lasted through generations of such differences is still what some may call systemic. Some say karama but is everything really that?
Some say such as poverty and problem with evil philosophy is cause of thoughts really just the cause of what a " lawyer of earth" has given? Some may even call such " the secret" as well.
Any how the thing people seem to think is often they have the more righteous way that is the most correct arrogantly or just from whatever others tell them whatever land taken or having others fight over even endlessly. Many would say divine rights and such are not political as leadership to groups in the past , and groups and leadership of people even now. It is not gods or goddesses that made human laws we have at present , and who can really say without interpretation what really any deities ever actually given in clarity of such laws we have now morals or not? This is more than issue of problem with evil but humans deciding who gets choices and who does not on matters...among other things.
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