Comparing Roe v. Wade to Alabama's heart beat abortion law (Page 8) kittybobo34: The rights of the woman with her body, the rights of the unborn, these two clash, there has to be a middle ground that works. For me its when the fetus has a thinking mind, which is somewhere around 5 months. Prior to that its human tissue without a mind or soul.  Blackshoes: According to almost religous thought ', It's wrong and sinful to even take ones own life ! According most eveyone ( other than those who agree with eugenics ) also feel that suicide is wrong ! Many doctors consider it a form of mental illness ! "Is murder ever justifiable? I have to agree that some circumstances will set the justification of murder. Why? We are taught right from wrong at a very young age and we are taught that murder is something that is wrong. I do agree with that statement, BUT what if ... You were put into a situation that meant life or death for you? What if your life depended upon murdering the person who had kidnapped you and was raping you or physically abusing you? I think that certain circumstances can justify murder, but I also know that it is wrong. I also believe that even though someone may be forced to murder someone for their own safety , they would live for that forever. I can see both sides of the debate here. However, I do have agree that it is acceptable under certain circumstances. No one never really knows how they will react in certain situations when it is based on life or death." "It is always immoral to kill another human being It can be justified in very few instances, such as: killing the leader of a genocidal movement, but it is still an immoral act. Being less of an immoral act than the the immoral act it ends still does not make it a moral act, or rather, not immoral. The moral thing to do is to utilize our critical thinking abilities to apply currently available, and develope new, techniques and technology necessary to resolve immoral acts morally. " by: ShaneW https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-murder-ever-morally-justifiable (Edited by Blackshoes) kittybobo34:
This is where your religion should not be making laws for the rest of us. I feel you are responsible for your own life, to end it or not. We can see about helping that person if its a mental situation , what is the point of making it illegal with punishment.
Blackshoes: " You "should be making laws that affect me and others not knowing the judgement that you will sooner or later face without the fear of God ? Should those that know better stand by and say nothing wile other kill babies ? You can never sperate the laws from religious and moral thought ! Because laws are made by peoples that have all types of different beliefs and opinions ! Often laws are made by evil and unrighteous men .. Just look at the history books (Edited by Blackshoes)  Angry Beaver: No male has the right to dictate to a woman what she can or cannot do with her own body.. And that you think you have, says a lot about your arrogance (Edited by Angry Beaver)  Super Esquire: Before that. Basically, I said it is an overbroad argument that both men and women could use. Just scroll back, copy, paste, and comment on it, if you wish. Blackshoes: A woman carries the baby . She has autonomy over the child whether within her womb or outside . She has no right to take the life of a individual . Whether within her womb or outside . Anyone that promotes such unbelievable wrong of killing the innocent' is himself guilty of such horrors ! . Righteous and honest societies always have autonomy over the public freedom and bodies . No civilized society allows unlimited freedom without controls to protect the innocent ! (Edited by Blackshoes) Angry Beaver:  As kitty stated, before 5 months it's just another piece of body tissue and her choice whether to excise it or not, just like her tonsils (Edited by Angry Beaver) Angry Beaver: So, some filthy old paedo father rapes his 12 year old daughter and impregnates her,,,you're all for her carrying it to term and birthing it are you? Sick af (Edited by Angry Beaver) Blackshoes: "Abortion is wrong. I think everyone knows that, which is why abortion activists are so angry all the time. It's a bit like when you catch someone out in a lie, and they get really mad at you really quickly, and you can't work out why until later. It's guilt. " Milo Yiannopoulos Angry Beaver: Try using your own words occasionally... Just like arrogant god botherers get really angry and resort to insult when you dare to question their god? (Edited by Angry Beaver) Blackshoes: Try opening you're eyes first ! Abortion is not a right. It is a violent act against the defenseless. It violates every principle of morality and should be barred by American law. Until that day, I fully support bans on partial-birth abortion, third-trimester abortion, and indeed every limit that can receive public support . Josh Hawley (Edited by Blackshoes) Blackshoes: And you support and promote the killing of innocent baby girls n' boys . No it's not OK ! (Edited by Blackshoes) Angry Beaver: I respect the right of a woman to make her own choices. You never answered my Q,so I'm assuming you say yes to that scenario.... sick And like all the patriarchial religious zealots you use the emotive" Murder of innocents" bullshit to push your agenda (Edited by Angry Beaver) Angry Beaver: Who is BO? Mate, yer god says it's wrong, you can't qualify in which context you think it's wrong or right, that's preempting your messiah's word! Blackshoes: "Abortion is wrong. I think everyone knows that" Blackshoes: "And you support and promote the killing of innocent baby girls n' boys . No it's not OK !" You either think it is or isn't, you can't cherry pick...have the courage of your convictions or stow it. (Edited by Angry Beaver) Blackshoes: What are you going on about ? I've made my position crystal clear .. "Nothing will ever justify the killing of inocents " " Let's not pretend that abortion isn't about the mass slaughter of innocents. " Michael Aston (Edited by Blackshoes) |
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