What is Donald Trump's Greatest Failure? (Page 340)

KeithJ: Bruce Springsteen was right in telling Dumptard to STOP using his song at campaign rallys or he would SUE Dump ( Born in the USA )

KeithJ: Those who already complain about Biden ought to stop and think , John Kasich would have still been re elected a 2nd time AND now since anyone IS better than Dumptard ass .

Echolegacy:




Fractured Skull Posted This:




Never said I hated America you did and your woke crowd





Are you kidding? That's ALL we hear from you----that is, when we can decipher the garbled, incoherent, utterly incomprehensible TRASH that you crank out with such distressing alacrity. The reason why its so unpleasant is because you have NEVER visited the United States and your burning hatred for the country and its people are almost legendary to the people who post here regularly by now, so don't play dumb---although, its anybody's guess as to whether or not you're really "playing," you twerp. My point is that its incredibly IDIOTIC to keep on lambasting a country about which you know absolutely NOTHING because it makes you look even stupider than you really are.



You HATE the United States and the people who live here and its as plain as day to anybody with a working brain. If you don't like what you're clearly provoking with your brainless and idiotic posts, then nobody's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to endure our loathsome presence.




So why don't you do us ALL a favor and simply shut the hell up, you blithering IDIOT.




If that's not clear enough then try THIS on for size: FUCK OFF, ASSHOLE.




That ought to be clear even to a congenital IDIOT like you.




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MJ59: Well put!

kittybobo34: I hope he isn't typical of Canadian attitudes toward the USA. Before the Covid crisis I got to spend a month on a science cruise to Alaska, and the Channel Islands with about 160 scientists from all over the world. The only apologizing I had to do was about our president. Other than that they seemed to like us.

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kittybobo Posted This:




The only apologizing I had to do was about our president.





It seems that the United States will have to keep apologizing for this terrible mistake for many years to come. Even so, the curse of Trumpism is that it has engulfed the entire Republican Party and was well on its way to becoming the part of a neo-fascist oligarchy anyway when Trump was finally deposed---or, voted out of office, if that's the way you wish to regard it.




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rmclark: Its come out by a study made by The Cleveland Clinic ( I think there are some smart people that work there) That people who have already had Covid-19, gain no benefits from getting the shot. They studied over 52,000 people. I'm thinking some on hear might rethink their feelings on having people fired if they "Don't get the shot" I guess I don't really care what you think. But for me....Just like my spinach when I was a kid. I'd rather let some poor kid in India have my shot
Also, I know this vaccine ( or what ever you want to call it) has a shelf life. I'm wondering how many doses have gone bad here in the US under Biden's great plan.

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Its funny how we hear NOTHING from the folks around here who thought that the sun rose and set on Trump and maybe its because it would be very hard to put a positive spin on his presidency at this point, after the failed INSURRECTION of January 6. There doesn't seem to be any chance at all of these people acknowledging the destructive influence that he had on our country....they stay silent when the topic of insurrection, and the phony "voter fraud" issue comes to the fore. They blather on about how Trump was SO WONDERFUL because he talked like the average Joe and wasn't a career politician, unlike so many who are now so universally despised. His crudeness, his greed, his sexism, his bigotry, his staggering ignorance, his vulgarity and his inherent dishonesty seemed not to matter to these people and even now, as he likes to see himself, he is widely regarded as a "kingmaker" in the old fashioned sense of the word. All the rest of it---the lies, the corruption, the breathtaking incompetence as well as the overweening arrogance that came from his abuse of power over the four years that he desecrated the Oval Office with his detested presence, are meaningless to them.




Yet, the people who post here still like to depict him as the "victim" of a vicious and vindictive free press, candy-ass Liberals and Democrats, whose only error was assuming that Trump would play by the rules, as people generally expect any President to do. That is their privilege, of course, but even as I write this, there are scores of new laws being crafted by Republican dominated state legislatures whose ONLY purpose is to limit the right to vote or to make it largely inaccessible to the people who would most profit by it. Where will it end?




The people who HATE Joe Biden have tried in vain to ensnare him in allegations of corruption, nepotism, double dealing, and all kinds of chicanery which never worked at all. Consequently, they are SO convulsed with HATRED that all other considerations no longer matter and that hatred has been transformed by Trump and manipulated by him so as to do the most damage possible. It will all be in vain, of course, and even the more sane members of the Republican Party who worry about his long term influence have good reason to be frightened.




In the end, if I were a Republican (God forbid), I would certainly have second thoughts about remaining in a Party that has disgraced itself by its supine and degrading behavior before its master, Donald Trump, a man who never met a crook and corrupt politician who didn't warm his heart....loyalty to Trump is EVERYTHING to these people, and all other considerations---decency, legality, common sense and reason---mean nothing by comparison.




I understand that Hitler placed the same premium on personal loyalty and as reluctant as I am to draw comparisons between Hitler and Trump, well....the facts speak for themselves and maybe it time to hold the people who elevated this monster to semi-divine status have to be held accountable as well. People like, say, rmclark, who really SHOULD know better but who, sadly, has not only drunk the Kool-Aid but has eagerly lined up for a second dose. So be it.




Like I said earlier, if I were a Republican, I'd have some very serious doubts about my commitment to the Party which has made a joke out of representative democracy but then again, I DO have respect for the law and a strong belief in the efficacy of a well governed republic.




People like rmclark and other Trump troglodytes should know better but they don't and they probably never will.




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Echolegacy:


rmclark Posted This:




I guess I don't really care what you think.




Ditto, because now we're even. The instrument has yet to be invented that could measure my supreme indifference to your idiotic statement.





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Wordy and Fun: "Fact check: Donald Trump wore pants properly, images and videos show"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/07/fact-check-trump-didnt-wear-pants-backwards-north-carolina-speech/7584172002/

Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, and Jimmy Kimmel laugh at Trump's apocryphal backward-pants 'wardrobe malfunction'


Yes the press and the Biden leg humpers are so infatuated with him that they resort to saying his pants were on backwards and USA Today and Snopes actually has to write a story on how it was untrue

But hey the Press gives Joe a hard time too - They threw a curveball at him a few weeks back when they asked him what flavored ice cream he eats

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Wordy and Fun Posted This:



They threw a curveball at him a few weeks back when they asked him what flavored ice cream he eats




I suppose that a Trump worshipper would prefer to see the press abused, insulted and physically assaulted just for doing their jobs?



Yes, I suppose they would. After all, it was Trump himself who called the press "The Enemy of the People."



Or was that somebody else?




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Wordy and Fun: "A Trump worshipper" - Good one ECHO

"I suppose that a Trump worshipper would prefer to see the press abused, insulted and physically assaulted just for doing their jobs?"

No id prefer to see them do their jobs and not act as an arm of the Dem party


Obama may never have called Fox News “enemies of the people,” but he did say that its “point of view” was “ultimately destructive” to the U.S.

In a Rolling Stone magazine interview in 2010, Obama compared Fox News to William Randolph Hearst and his style of so-called “yellow journalism.” He called its point of view “ultimately destructive for the long-term growth” of the U.S.

Obama Justice Department Labels Fox News Reporter ‘Co-conspirator’


“With the decision to label a Fox News television reporter a possible ‘co-conspirator’ in a criminal investigation of a news leak, the Obama administration has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news,” the New York Times editorial board wrote.

The Post report on the Justice Department’s investigation involving Rosen came not long after the Justice Department seized two months of telephone records of reporters and editors at the Associated Press. Gary Pruitt, the AP’s chief executive officer, called the action “unconstitutional.”

The actions taken in the cases involving Fox News and the AP went to a larger issue of the Obama administration’s aggressive prosecutions of leaks.

“Under the Obama administration, charges were brought against at least eight government employees or contractors accused of leaking information to the media, and several journalists were snared in the process through subpoenas to testify or surveillance of their records,” the Committee to Protect Journalists wrote last year. “After public outcry, the Department of Justice released revised standards for subpoenaing reporters.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/09/obama-fox-news-and-the-free-press/

But hey atleast he didnt call them the "enemy of the people" right -

Echolegacy:


Wordy and Fun Posted This:



Obama may never have called Fox News “enemies of the people,” but he did say that its “point of view” was “ultimately destructive” to the U.S.



I'd say that as long as Fox News insists on promoting the LIE that the election was somehow "corrupt," Obama's assessment still stands.



Sorry, Wordy....on this one, you don't get a free pass. Its still a "lie," even if Fox News is trying to promote it.




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Wordy and Fun: "I'd say that as long as Fox News insists on promoting the LIE that the election was somehow "corrupt," Obama's assessment still stands."

Obama said it in 2010 - Well before the election and as i posted above about his Justice Department going after after the Associated Press - They are not Fox are they ?

"The Post report on the Justice Department’s investigation involving Rosen came not long after the Justice Department seized two months of telephone records of reporters and editors at the Associated Press. Gary Pruitt, the AP’s chief executive officer, called the action “unconstitutional.”


"Sorry, Wordy....on this one, you don't get a free pass. Its still a "lie," even if Fox News is trying to promote it."

Who exactly on Fox News is still saying that ?

Echolegacy:



Wordy and Fun Posted This Question:




Who exactly on Fox News is still saying that ?




Here's your answer:




This is an excerpt from an opinion piece that appeared on media-ite, and even though its an op-ed piece, the facts about the Fox News personalities who promoted the big lie can be easily verified. My advice to you, Wordy, is to verify it for yourself. Once you have, you can admit you were wrong.



"Some of the conspiracy coverage was more oblique (you could also call it cowardly). Tucker Carlson flatly said that the election was stolen, but he clarified that it wasn’t through fraud: it was rigged by a cabal of media conglomerates and “Big Tech” platforms that stacked the deck against the common man. Less nuanced arguments came from Trump toadies like Jeanine Pirro, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. Bartiromo won the award for most shameful coverage, by giving a platform to nutjobs Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, and Rudy Giuliani to falsely spread disinformation. And she is a news anchor, allegedly."



There you have it, Wordy: Jeanine Pirro, Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfield, Jesse Watters and Maria Bartiromo all stated that they thought the election was STOLEN as a result of an alleged CONSPIRACY that never took place.




Can you deny that these people work for Fox News? No.....you can't.





NOW, what do you have to say about it?







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KeithJ: Faux news

rmclark: Ok Keith how about this story MSNBC News Millions of doses of Covid vaccine will soon become outdated. Stating that the lack of National plan on distributing the vaccine many doses will go bad soon. There is no excuse for this to happen. Joe and Kammi said they have this thing. Well it doesn't appear that they do.

KeithJ: Isn't their fault just like this state is the worst for people getting vaccinated and why ? well it is because of breathless republican conspiracy theorist who think that Bill Gates is putting id chips in it LOL fucking unbelievable or whatever damn conspiracy Qanon bull shit .
The fault IS people not Biden's administration when it is a free shot ,,You got to be stupid .

KeithJ: You must have dementia not to look around even in your OWN neighborhood .

Echolegacy:

Keith Posted This:




The fault IS people not Biden's administration when it is a free shot ,



Keith, you've got to take what rmclark posts with a VERY large grain of salt. You're talking about somebody with no regard for fairness, truth, objectivity or logic. In other words, a Trump supporter, which renders such people worthless in a discussion like this.




You're wasting your time because Trump supporters are barely cognizant of what the rest of us call "reality." With respect to the world of "reality," these cretins are little better than tourists.




Still, its worth asking a Trump supporter their opinion of the human race. It might be interesting to have an outsider's opinion!




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KeithJ: Echo yep LOL

KeithJ: Echo the Sulk vaccine of the past must have affected his brain because Qanon told me so right ?

Echolegacy:




Keith, think about it for a minute. These people are so deranged and credulous that one guy turned up at a Washington DC pizza parlor with an automatic weapon because he thought that was where Hillary Clinton was running a ring of cannibalistic pedophiles who were supported by Liberals and Hollywood "elites." That speaks volumes about the intellectual and moral degradation of the Republican Party, especially when you realize that most QANON lunatics are also Trump supporters.



If THAT is the logic of so many Trump supporters, then they are inclined to believe ANYTHING, no matter how illogical, unlikely or absurd it is. Or, as H.L. Mencken has famously observed, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."




I rest my case.




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Campion: ECHO --- The fact that so many people are so uncritical and so credulous both amazes and scares me. As a teacher I always encouraged my students to think objectively but I see so little of that displayed, especially on the US political scene particularly on the right. Joseph Goebbles was right “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."

KeithJ: Hopefully the "Big Slam" is coming soon BUT the brainwashed idiots whom worships Dumpty Trumpty's twisted ideological con job will even try to blame his conviction of his OWN doing on others so that the "Big Cry" will continue .