Yet another god doesnt exist thread. (Page 3) MJ59: Like celibate catholic priests, that was always gunna work!! Where in yer bible does it say "thou shalt not shag if a priest" rofl zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: I have faith in my own ability to know right from wrong and empathy and compassion to know how to display it correctly" Wow...that ^^ is just plain screwed up. lol What is your source of morality & ethics?? compassion is what you feel & how you respond to others--not a knowledge of how to display it correctly. zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Like celibate catholic priests, that was always gunna work!! Where in yer bible does it say "thou shalt not shag if a priest" rofl " There are some people who can & do devote themselves to a cause (e.g. eunuchs, monks, etc). The problem isn't the concept--the problem is that some people are corrupt & weak & like the bad apple in the barrel. Honestly, I've been acquainted with a few priest that were amazing human beings--no corruption whatsoever from all that I ever knew & they were very kind, intelligent, compassionate, etc. One bad cop doesn't make the whole police squad bad--nor does 1 or more bad priests--you can't judge the innocent from the misdeeds of the bad--that isn't reasonable or fair. (Edited by zeffur) zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: I need no book to give me insight into morality" Undoubtedly Stalin & Mao told themselves the same thing. Remember what happened to their fellow citizens when their leaders had power over them? MJ59: Hey I got no probs with catholics, love my aunty (catholic) because of the peace and calm she radiates and if religion does that for her, best of british to her, I just don;t require outside help zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Dude if you can't have innate compassion or empathy for others, a book ain;t gunna help u at all. I know what's moral and what isnt...and I didn't get it from any book...my parents (not religious) taught me abd my own decency enforces it" You keep telling youself that, sunshine. If it was taught to you by your relatives, it is very likely that they got it from a religion -- not the mind of self-assured egocentric people who believe they have the innate ability to know moraity on their own. (Edited by zeffur) zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: Please explain why I can't know what morality is without being a blind god botherer??" Because life is riddled with atheists who pretended the same thing & whenever they gain sufficient power massive amounts of people suffer from their lack of wisdom & cruelty because they revert to their survival of the fittest (or strongest) mentality during times of trouble. zeffur: re: "Angry Beaver: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"." Karl Marx isn't anyone I would recommend anyone else believe in or follow. MJ59: Never happen motati, they think they're better than atheists but really....they aint So a couple dozen bads eggs are indicative of the millions of others of the same persuasion....pretty damned judgey bro, you don;t know every single atheist in the world so have no right to make that kind of judgement. (Edited by MJ59) Motati: Because honestly all these attacks are not doing us any good. Let us see the kindness in you so that we can follow your good deeds. zeffur: re: "Motati: I am wondering if religion is so good why can't we agree, and move forward and do good." Who is stopping you from doing good? MJ59: I didn't type all--but those that have a noteable world record have quite a bad one. What so 20 or 30 are bad, so we all get tarred the same? | Politics Chat Room 84 People Chatting Similar Conversations |