Is The United Sates a Rouge Nation (Page 9)

CharlesIII
CharlesIII: and do not use a proxy
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CharlesIII: good job
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Fractured fairy tale: Oh its aaguy the hero from Mc Namares 1000 Been watching Hollywood movies again have ya
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aarguy2: Fractured? LOL... you have no clue what MacNamara's 100,000 (not,1,000) even is... your grandparents probably weren't born when it happened
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Fractured fairy tale: Obviously not they wernt named Rambo either
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Fractured fairy tale: That's the Problem aagirl guy whatever
When you keep Insisting everything is a repeat of Real or Imagined victorys .
Over and over again. Kinda gets a bit boring after awhile.
No use seeing the Move we know how its gonna end
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aarguy2
aarguy2: Fractured? you are funny when you talk of things military.... like a four year old talking about neurosurgery... ignorant and stupid but funny
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Fractured fairy tale: Oh. really So tell me aaguy how Taking out a General of a Forien Milaraty . Is Justifiable
Or even Remotely legal.
Not by the "Rules of War" Its not you know the Geneva Convention . International law
That you took an Oath to Uphold

The ",War on Terrorism" Was Supposed to be about Non "State actors" in other words "Terrorists"

What you just going to start Killing anyone the USA doesn't like or any one who wont do what there told .

You going to destroy Iran Because Saudi Arabia dont like them . Nice friends you keep .

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Fractured fairy tale: I ask again Who is acting like "Terrorists"
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Fractured fairy tale: Donno What God you reckon your Trusting on your Bank Notes
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Fractured fairy tale: What Did Iraq do Wrong in the First place
That your got to Install a new Military
Teach them how to "follow International law"

Every Reason they Used to Justify going in and Invading the Country. To the World
Was false didn't happen or Made up Everything

What was there KKrime wanting to move away from the Petro dollar . Start selling there Oil in Euroes . Or any other Currency
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theHating
theHating: Nail salons and amazon. com
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: Why America Loses Every War It Starts


Most Americans rightly believe that the U.S. military is the best and most formidable in the world. If that is correct, why, since the end of World War II, has the United States lost every war it started and failed every time it used force without just cause? Indeed, if the U.S. military was a sports team, it would land in the bottom divisions.

History makes this case. Fortunately, the United States prevailed in the Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation. George H.W. Bush was masterful in the first Gulf War in 1991 and managing the collapse of the Soviet Union. But his predecessors and successors were not as successful.

John F. Kennedy presided over the doomed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961 and set in motion the Vietnam War. While many believe the Cuban Missile Crisis was a great victory, in fact, the Kennedy administration precipitated it with a massive defense buildup in 1961 that forced Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev to abandon his military reductions and place short-range nuclear missiles in Cuba to bypass American nuclear superiority.

Lyndon Johnson followed Kennedy into the Vietnam quagmire that led to over 58,000 dead Americans and possibly millions of Vietnamese based on the fallacious view that communism was monolithic and had to stopped there so it did not spread here. Burdened with Vietnam and a plan so secret it did not exist, it took Richard Nixon nearly five years to end that war. While his outreach to China was brilliant as was détente with Russia, Watergate destroyed his presidency.

Jimmy Carter was weak. The failed Desert One raid in 1980 to free 54 Americans held hostage in Tehran compounded the Vietnam malaise. While Ronald Reagan was seen to be tough, he did not bankrupt the Soviet Union in an arms race as it was the irrationality of the system and its brittleness that caused it’s fracturing. But he did send Marines into Beirut in 1983 and 241 died in the barracks bombing. At the same time, Reagan invaded Grenada in part to prevent the Soviets from building an air base and rescue American students at St. Georges Medical School. However, the airfield was being constructed by a British firm and had been part of a decades old plan to increase tourism. And the American commander in the field had told the White House that the students were in no danger.

While George H.W. Bush was arguably one of the most qualified presidents to hold office, he never got a second term. Bill Clinton took 78 days to force Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic to end his murder of Kosovars. The conflict could have ended in hours had the use of ground forces been threatened.

After September 11th, George W. Bush believed that the world would be made much safer if democracy could be imposed on the Middle East. In Afghanistan, that turned into nation-building instead of hunting down and neutralizing Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. Sixteen years later, success is still elusive. It was, however, the objective of transforming the geostrategic landscape of the greater Middle East that induced the catastrophe that set the region ablaze.

Barack Obama wanted to end the bad war in Iraq and concentrate on the good one in Afghanistan. He wanted to threaten Syrian President Bashar al Assad and then do nothing. And he mistakenly thought bombing Libya to protect Benghazi from Muramar Qaddafi would end the violence. Instead, civil war consumed Libya after Qaddafi was overthrown and killed. And who knows what Donald Trump will do.

Three reasons that apply to presidents of both parties since Kennedy explain why our record in using force has been so poor. First, most new presidents are unprepared, unready, and not experienced enough for the rigors of their office. Second, each lacked good strategic judgment. Third, these deficiencies were exacerbated by profound lack of knowledge and understanding of the conditions in which force was to be used.

Both the Kennedy and Johnson administrations were hugely uninformed on Vietnam and the massive strains between the Soviet Union and communist China. Before September 11th, few Americans knew the differences between Sunnis and Shias. Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. And so it goes.

What to do about this is the subject of other columns. What is needed, however, is a brains-based approach to strategic thinking that recognizes that the 21st century cannot be engaged with 20th century concepts that are no longer relevant. For example, the Soviet Union could be deterred with nuclear and conventional weapons. Today, when Russia has no interest in invading Western Europe and al Qaeda and the Islamic State have no armies and navies, 20th century deterrence does not work.

Still, unless the public finally recognizes that experience and competence are vital in our presidents and leaders, do not expect the future to differ from the recent past.
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: The U.S. Has Been At War 222 Out of 239 Years
And never wins

This from an honest American:
Larry Moto GP rules
4 years ago
To the rest of the world I an American citizenI I apologize for the actions of my government. We are indoctrinated at birth to wave flags and hold bibles sacred. Anyone who breaks ranks gets ostracized by the flag wavers and bible carriers. Phil Donahue was fired for the inclination that the Iraq war was based on lies, he was the highest rated show on MSNBC. President Eisenhower warned the people about this in 61 and we did not listen. Our defense and media outlets are controlled by crazy zionists who want the end of times. Its geting better thanks to the internet and the flow of info. I am here and can tell whoever will listen we are trying to keep this MIC in check . There is a growing movement to break this war for profit entity and we will get better I hope, sorry to the world
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Sandra100257
Sandra100257: most of the ones were fought to protect others. WW2 we got
into because Japan bombed us
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Angry Beaver
Angry Beaver: Seems only ever get involved in other's wars..... no rogues here lol
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Fractured fairy tale: Protect othees The propaganda machine is good at Portrayung it that way .

But In reality there Not . Its about oil and recorces . Control of regions .
They even say it .

What happened I. Syria then for Example
Ir was made out the people had to be "set free" From a brutal dictator.
Half the Country fled from the fighting from Interferance . None of it would of Happened. If they had of left Iraq Alone No
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Fractured fairy tale: How Do they Protect others by killing millions of people and Kreating Social upheaval in Countries

No thats what its designed to do . Break there sprit keep them weak
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Fractured fairy tale:

Its all here all of it in the Middle East
Just cos it ant plastered all over the news dont mean it ant true
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Fractured fairy tale:

Zombies too true
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Fractured fairy tale:

I agree with this bloke . Zionism and Judaism Arnt Necessarily the Same thing

One More Time For the "Educated" people around here . In the Religion or Political Forums . Brain washed into responding with Antisemitism whenever Isreal is mentioned

Im a Cockcroach hey . Its easy to see whoes bee. Brainwashed into . Having prejudice and Hate
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Fractured fairy tale: All good God will end it all Once Devil worshipers Make Him enough
See where your Magic Incantations get you then
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Fractured fairy tale: Breaking News . Palestinian leaders Refuse to Take a Call from Donald Trump
Reguarding The So Called Middle East peace plan .
Whitch is rwally Just a Document for them to give up any form of Sovereignty. And Any Right Of return for the Palestinians who were Driven into Jordan .
Of Coarse Bibi Nyetahu just Happened to to visiting the White House .
Drooling over Trumps shoulder Whe. Can I get my hands on the Exta land
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Fractured fairy tale: I hope t hey hold out as long as they can . Like Iran .They can cut off all the funding to both of them .And twist it Around like there the Bad guys and Terrorists.
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Fractured fairy tale: This Craxyness has to Stop Immediately







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