Christian The BEst Religion (Page 4) Transformed: Amanda, The whole point of the Gospel is to "wake up the neighbours" because all the neighbours are "asleep". Ney0: I'll not go detail in this issue but imo the vid is true (go study bible and Qu'ran.. but its not for weak minds) and atheist will claim to be the best of all. LMAO deuce916: That guy in the video talks shit. Imagine trying to make a distinction between two fairy-tale characters & believing it is true. I'll give you one reason why jesus isn't god - because there is no god!  WillowManChe: k, how do u think we are all alive today?, GOD is the creator., if there was no God then we wouldnt exist.. deuce916: Well just because you believe a bunch of false words written by humans, that's your problem. deuce916: You don't like to think, do you. You like your information spoon fed to you. Otherwise you would realise the things you say and believe are false. Yahweh: GOD isn't the creator ,that is a moronic statement ,there are over a BILLION GODS worshipped on this planet ,so you are saying they are all the creator ,there is but one creator ,His name is YAHWEH ,and His Glory will he NOT give unto another. the bible makes a clear distinction just who GOD is ,and it isn't the CREATOR ,one just need to look at 2nd Corinthians 4:4 ,the God of this world is Satan , so that would mean that GOD IS SATAN and Jesus is the centerpiece of Satan's masterpiece . WillowManChe: evolved? u know, i had a fellin that u was gonna say that, so u actully belivie that we evolved? hahaha no comment. as for satin being GOD? thats false as any other god's that ppl belivie, remember theres only one GOD. Yahweh: There are many 'GODS' ,but only one CREATOR and His NAME is YAHWEH ,almost every modern dictionary ,encyclopedia and many newr Bibles are stating so in their footnotes . Some say ,'" Adam worshipped His Creator whom He knew as Yahweh in 4003 B.C."  Mari_Blue: YOU SAID: Some say ,'" Adam worshipped His Creator whom He knew as Yahweh in 4003 B.C. I don't know who is "some said" because writing originated circa 3000 BC, and that was a crude form of numbers and signs. True Sumerian/Akkadian cuniform (wedge-shaped)writing in the form of actual hymns, prayers, poems, and writings came about circa 2400 BC. And the development of Yahweh (YHWH) came about as a transformation from the Canaanite pantheon of gods, El being the head god. The Ugaritic Myth of Ba'al copyright Lilinah biti-Anat, *******97 In the late 1920's a Syrian farmer plowing a field on a hill turned up a strange clay tablet. A French archaeological team went to investigate. In 1928, that hill, behind Ras Shamra, a sleepy north Syrian port town, was discovered to be a tel, a mound which was actually the site of an ancient city. Within it were the ruins of Ugarit, a major Bronze Age Canaanite city, including a large palace and two temples. Many clay tablets were found during the course of the dig, including a number within the Chief Priest's quarters. The tablets were in cuneiform, but examination quickly revealed that although the shapes of the characters were familiar, they were unrelated to the familiar cuneiforms of Sumer and Akkad. Rather than the usual thousands, there were only 28 characters. Here was evidence of the first alphabet! A relationship between this character set and Hebrew allowed the French team, led by Charles Virolleaud, to make early tentative translations between *******33. This discovery has had a major effect on the study of the Ancient Near East. Refinements have been in the translations during the succeeding 65 years, and current scholars involve linguistic knowledge of Arabic to augment their work. The information in the various tablets has spread beyond the field of archaeology, changing, among others, the face of history, religion, and mythology. Whereas previously knowledge of the Pagan religions of the region was limited to a few untrustworthy references in Greek and Roman writing, and moreso, the highly biased accounts in the Torah/ Bible and the negative writings of early religious writers of Judaism and Christianity. As Ancient Near Eastern scholar Cyrus Gordon says "...Ugaritic is the greatest literary discover from antiquity since the decipherment of the Egyptian hieroglyphs and Mesopotamian cuneiform..." (The Ancient Near East, p. 99) The important deities El, Athirat/ Asherah, Ba'al, and Anat emerge, assisted by other deities such as the sun goddess Shapash, the magician-craftsman Kothar-wa-Khasis, who were hitherto poorly known or unknown. Prior knowledge has been expanded and the influence of Canaanite religion and mythology on surrounding cultures, including the Egyptians, Hittites, and Greeks, and in Judaism, is much more apparent, as is the influence of these other cultures and those of Mesopotamia on the Canaanites. More information is available on El, Ba'al, Athirat/ Asherah, Anat and on Yahm, Shapash, Kothar-wa-Khasis, and Athtart/ Astarte. I present here the most important of the mythological stories uncovered, the Myth of Ba'al. Seven tablets, written on both sides, five columns per side, contain the story. Unfortunately several were badly damaged during their almost 3200 years in the ground, so parts of the story are unclear. The language, however, is quite vivid, and in some cases very beautiful. Scholars now see that the writing style of the Torah is a continuity of that of the Canaanites, and certain expressions and descriptions are virtually identical, while some Canaanite Pagan vignettes have been rewritten in the Bible to support the newer religion. The language describing the deity YHWH shows that many of his characterestics are a combination of the Canaanite El and Ba'al. Mari_Blue: Originally the Sumerians worshipped a primary deity they called "Nammu". They believed that this god split the heavens from the earth to create two offspring. The heavens became a son called "An" and the earth a daughter called "Ki". These two deities produced a son called "Enlil" who was the god of atmosphere, wind and storm. Enlil eventually became the primary deity of worship. This was around 2500B.C.E. The original story of creation came from the sumerians about two thousand years or so, before the Hebrew or Old testament version came about. They believed that man was formed out of clay and given the breath of life in order to serve the gods.( sound familiar?) A god called "Enki" became poisoned by the goddess Ninhursag, for eating eight sacred plants that had been grown by Ninhursag. As he was dying, the goddess relented and formed eight healing deities to heal each of the eight parts of Enki's body that had been poisoned. Enki's rib was healed by the goddess "Nin-ti. In sumerian this means "lady of the rib". Two thousand years later, she would be known as "Eve" by another religion. The sumerians also believed in "sin". They also have a tale of how the gods flooded the earth for seven days and nights in order to destroy mankind for his evil ways. A large ship piloted by the king Ziusudra, carried the seed of vegetation and of mankind. After the seven days and nights, the god "Utu" cast his rays of light on the heavens and earth and man again walked the earth. Again, this was some two thousand years before similar stories appeared in the old testament of the Hebrews. Yahweh: Sorry ,let me clarify : Some Newer progressive Bibles are stating in their opening footnotes ,that 'ADAM called upon His heavenly Father Whom He knew as YAHWEH ,in 4003 B.C.' Man walked the Earth some 2000 yrs before the Jesus millenia ,actually it was a little longer than that ,it was an EON ,man has been here many times ,no clear history because all was destroyed ,soon though ,proof will surface ,writing goes back much further than what you read in some book ,this also will be proven in the near future ,as scrolls predating all in existance will surface for all to read and it will be in plain ENGLISH Mari_Blue: I suggest you call Walt Disney, he deals in fantasies. You obviously have no scholarly knowledge of Biblical Archaeology, ancient texts, cultural studies, anthropology, etc. - therefore it is a waste of my time to continue this discussion. You are not open to learning. Yahweh: Mari -my knowledge goes outside the fringe of MAINSTREAM thinking such as all the fish stuck in the mainstream ,think outside the box ,Jesus is all BULL$HIT ,seek knowledge where it is hidden and you shall find , I'll leave you with this II CORINTHIANS [4:4} 'For the gods [elohim] of this world [led by Lucifer the Satan ]have blinded the minds of those who do not believe ,so that the light of the 'message of the glory of the Messiah ,Who is the image of Yahweh ,should not shine unto them'. !510 A.D. Pope Leo the 10th ,raised his silver chalise and proclaimed in front of Cardinal Bembo and Cardinal Jovius ,'"Ah! ,this Jesus fable ,what a moneymaker it has been for us and our predecessors ,it has served us well. [SOURCE :The Catholic Encyclopedia ] $Willow - FYI - Don't be a moron ,do you know what a title is ? obviously not ,a title is not a NAME ,a NAME is what separates you and makes you unique from everyone else , 'YAHWEH IS GOD!' ,Though He no longer answers to that 'Title' there are over 25000 gods[elohim] worshipped in India that are all called the Title of god. Everyone Praise Yahweh this Sabbath ,He is Your 'true' Father who art in the Heavens Whom is very much alive and in contact with His people ,for His plan for Humanity is truly Awesome Yahweh's Blessings to all truth seekers and free thinkers ,ah what the Hell ,Praise 'HALLELUYAH! EVERYONE! HalleluYah! means Praise Yahweh! Yahweh: ALSO - "In the book entitled ,'THE DEAD SEA SCRIPTURES IN ENGLISH TRANSLATION' by Theodore H. Gaster [ PAGE 336 ,Paul is called a 'Prophet of deceit or delusion and a false prophet , a lying and deceitful interpreter , a preacher of lies , a man scoffing , a man of BLASPHEMY and FRAUD . His followers were called the Children of Corruption and the Men of Corruption and the Men and Sons of Darkness.' The stories that the Messiah Yahoshua [which means Savior of YAHWEH - Son of YAHWEH so He truly Preached in His Father's NAME] and His disciples wrote about were 'The War of the Sons of LIGHT and the Sons of Darkness.' The Sons of LIGHT were led by the Master of Justice ,or Teacher of Righteousness . The scrolls assert that Yahweh made known to the Teacher of Righteousness all the secrets of the words of His servants ,the Prophets.' "This is another proof that Christianity was made up by Paul and the other Jews of Judism and Rome . On page 82 of the book 'SCROLLS FROM THE DEAD SEA' by Wilson ,the author says ,' There was nothing of Jesus in the morality of the Teacher of Righteousness [Yahoshua] ,for Jesus had taught people to love their enemies and the Teacher of Righteousness felt nothing but hatred for His enemies and expected Yahweh to avenge Him . Nor was there anything in the doctrine of the Teacher of Righteousness' followers of the Christain idea THAT SALVATION IS TO BE GAINED BY BELIEVING IN JESUS ,who will take all our sins away. 'PRAISE YAHWEH !' my friends , for these wonderful revelations from the Dead Sea Scrolls which substantiate the truth that the Kingdom of Yahweh is teaching today . Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction ,but none the less ,truth remains truth no matter what anyone say . Enjoy the Sabbath ,do as your Father ask of you ,if you do nothing at all this day ,that is what you are supposed to do 'RELAX' | Religion Chat Room 28 People Chatting Similar Conversations |