There is no God. Just Karma. (Page 3)

GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Errors were made. I’ve seen it as Kama and as Karma in relation to that. Karma relates to more than just something bad, that is true. There never was a god named God, even your Baha man never used the name God when he dreamt up your religion and that was in the nineteenth century about his imaginary concept about the imaginary god that you refer to as God. God itself is a name that most religious people and those who aren’t religious never use. Virtues come from the way people think and or how they were brought up, not by any imaginary god or goddess. In fact those of your religion usually prefer to use what seems like a very thick phone book full of titles rather than to refer to the main god by any actual name most of the time. It’s a very title obsessed religious movement.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome:

The name God, at the furthest stretch back, is a name that was dreamt up about a mythical god named God to The Middle Ages.

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Zanjan
Zanjan: Wishful thinking ->

you can have a good life if you set up your own moral system
you'll always follow the rules of your own moral design
you'll always practice the philosophies you claim to espouse.
you always know what is in your own best interest.

you're a good person as long as you don't break the law
your private thoughts have no bearing on your actions
your private thoughts can never affect others.
you have total control over the substance of your thoughts.

The piece de resistance of the atheist narrative is that there's nothing religion or religious folk can do that secular folks can't. I've never heard a bigger lie than that.

Atheists can certainly do a few good works, like helping the poor or injured, but what challenge is there in that? What motivates them? Is that all they know how to do? What have they left to posterity? How many have sung their praises, including posthumously?

I could make a list of the signs of excellent character and no atheist could tick all of the boxes. One doesn't have to be perfect to achieve that, only virtuously consistent.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: You made a lot of errors there. The first sentence was wrong and you used symbols as well. You then avoided using capitals, You then used return instead of finishing sentences and you didn’t use spaces before the question marks. People either have morals or they don’t, no one can just conveniently choose what is morally right and what is morally wrong. To see examples of where people think that their immoral behaviour is moral, not immoral, then look at what a lot of people have done and also look at the television show The Handmaid’s Tale where many immoral things are seen as being very moral, not immoral. Sure the show is about a very scary fictional future but it shows that the worst things can and will happen when someone conveniently decides what they claim is and isn’t moral.

People will either be moral all of the time or not all of the time or they will always be immoral, it’s not a case of each human will always be just this way or that way. Most people have always been moral and most will never be immoral, this has nothing to do with if someone is or isn’t religious. Everyone should do what is best for only those that it should be best for even when that means that it’s not best for themselves. Doing what is right sometimes does mean that it should be worse for yourself but not in an unfair way towards yourself by you or by anyone else. Sometimes to be a good person means that you have to go against an unfair law. Always try to be fair and hopefully always be fair no matter what. As long as your private thoughts don’t bring about anyone problems for yourself and/or for anyone you have anything to do with then you are fine. Your next sentence made no sense at all, for a start you are an Atheist, the next thing is that the word narrative should not have been used. The words posterity and virtuously should never have been used. The entire message should never have been made.

Your god named God is made up and there is such a thing as Karma.
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Albert617
Albert617: Who orchestrated the Law of Karma? Laws have lawgivers.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: There is no proof that any god or goddess is around anywhere right now or that one of them ever were any. Karma does not need and never did need a god or goddess for it to be present for those that have so far experienced it and for those who are experiencing it right now.
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Albert617
Albert617: That's why karma is irrational, because it's a metaphysical law, but lacks a lawgiver. Don't get me wrong, I believe in karma in a certain sense, as I have experienced it. I believe what we put out comes back. I know many people who were hit with karmic justice. But I don't believe in reincarnation karma.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Karma is not irrational, it is not a god or goddess or has any supernatural ability, the bit about it being metaphysical in nonsense. The word metaphysical doesn’t even anything, it’s just one of those words someone comes out with that is supposed to impress others. There is no reason to contribute all to any ‘lawgiver’. Karmic justice ? That didn’t make any sense, I don’t believe in reincarnation, neither does the chick in the Bizarre Love Triangle clip, I love that clip and I love that song. If there is even at least one god or goddess around somewhere right now then we don’t know that. Supernatural beliefs are guesses that things that are true about magic where everything is still unproven.

I can’t remember what it was or where I saw or heard it but it was about what karma is and what it isn’t, it was the exact opposite of what I thought was true at the time. So maybe we do have the wrong idea of what karma is and what it means.
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