Only the Torah is True, the Bible is Mixed with False (Page 5)

chayim: Zanjan, don't be fooled by moofy, because she is far from the Jewish cult and knowledge, her lifestyle is not Jewish

moofy: Chayi:

It's pretty obvious you're lying at this point. I posted the Yeshiva World News link literally calling them a cult.

Simply discussing the issue with Zanjan about what I read is in NO way trying to fool anyone. Get a grip and quit trying to defend people simply because they're Jewish.

Barbara the Jew: Zanjan is jewish? really?

moofy: Yea SUPER, apparently I'm not Jewish all of a sudden (you know because I made the points of stating that some of his opinions aren't Jewish theological opinions)...

Barbara the Jew: In this matter i have no opinions because i lack the knowledge, however for chayi to refer to you as unjewish because you disagree with him is very immature.

chayim: No, only because she refuses to keep the Torah even she was born Jewish, and she knows what Judaism is, and she lives like a nonJew style and culture life, so she doesn't have the holy spirit, God's spirit, the Jewish spirit and soul, so she doesn't realize really what Judaism is

chayim: I know that they are a cult, and extreme Jewish, but they have false basics and ideas not acceptable as Judaism, that's what i meant that they are not a Jewish cult

Barbara the Jew: I will agree that "Lev tahor" do not follow many Jewish standards, a cult and a religion are two different things, also to be spiritually jewish is not the same as to be religiously Jewish!

chayim: The truth is, that spirit and religion is one thing, i mean, you cannot have God's spirit if you don't follow what he said

Barbara the Jew: Yes, you are correct, however you cant have Gd spirit if your religiously vain!

chayim: Vain is not religious, the Torah was given trough Moses only because he was totally humble

Barbara the Jew: you misunderstand! I mean when people are to overly religious that they forget the basic fundamentals of Torah. kindness, generosity, forgiveness, redemption, humility, charity respect for haShem and His creation. All of HaShem commandments center around this principles. When we forget about this and center around the ceremonial aspect of the commandments We become religiously Vain! That leads to judging others and that is also a sin! The ceremonial aspects are important but with out elements mention above they are useless.

chayim: Right

moofy: I believe she was talking about your attitude towards others Chayi. I also don't lie about Judaism by the same hand.

You very clearly tried to make it seem as if Lev Tahor wasn't a cult and somehow accepted by the Jewish community: It isn't. Plain and simple.

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moofy: Keep insulting me. I'm just going to report every single one of these posts and contact an admin about it if you can't refrain from insulting me.

chayim: God said, that i give my commands, and you should go in these ways of these commands, and only if you will go in these ways i will be with you and you will be with me, and if you will not obey my commands i will punish you, God gave his commands only to the children of Jacob, to the 12 tribes of Israel, all others were not chosen to be given them all these commands, and if anyone else wants to join the Jewish nation he must accept all the commands, even if he neglects only one command he cannot convert to become Jewish and chosen to God, and God said many times in the Torah and many prophecy books that his commands and words are eternal, and not changeable even one letter, God said, every single of you are only my children only if you go with all my commands, and these words are eternal and not changeable

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Not one christian follower joined God's words, to accept all his commands

Zanjan: You know, I can grok when secular people cant recognize who is a Jew, but it's so funny when Jews cant recognize a Jew.

Zanjan is not Jewish - who knew?

Zanjan: Chyai, FYI - God hasn't stopped talking. While God's commandments aren't changeable, He always adds new ones. None of them discount the old ones - it's just a matter of your knowing the difference between a Commandment and a guidance.

chayim: No, God said clearly in his Torah, that you should "never" add or remove even one letter what i said, never to add any command, and not to remove any command for eternity

It's only that the soul and spirit improves and adding knowledge and wisdom and glory, but not the commands

Zanjan: I love the visuals Joseph Campbell came up with. Religion is a machine; Mr Campbell saw this machine as a computer, which comes to you from the higher powers of know -how, installed with an operating system, nothing more - it's nearly a blank slate. This system has a name, which is important for you to know because there are different operating systems out there.

One can acquire certain programs to enrich the OS performance and accessories to enhance the power of its capabilities. Meanwhile, other programs and accessories are not compatible with that OS. While all of them work, each was designed and built to work with a specific OS.

I like this explanation because there's really no conflict - doesn't matter if you're typing here using a 64 bit quad processor, Win XP, or your smartphone. They all work. Just know that there are only certain things you can do with each machine because some apps just don't fit.

Zanjan: Chayi, God said "YOU" should never change what He wrote. He can keep writing, you cant.

chayim: No, he said that "it" should never be changed, "and even a prophet will come and say in my name to change anything i said in the Torah, you should not fair him and kill him, he is a false prophet

Zanjan: Who has changed the Torah?

chayim: No one changed the Torah, but you said it can be changed