Are atheists converting into nothing but Jesus bashing mob? (Page 8)

GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: At no given stage did I ever state that most or all are Extremists, to state so would be quite a bit overboard, naturally, those who are intentionally unfair are extremists, no one else. Some get 'rewarded' for their own Report abuse, others are assumed to have done the Report abuse yet haven't and others deserve to get reported. If 'any group' also includes that of any Terrorist supporter or other like minded Scum then they are Extremists no matter who thinks they aren't. This is not me assuming that that is what you meant though.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: i didnt either dude. There are some though.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Of course there are. At the same stage I and others can't do what my major opponent does and shut out all forms of criticism (except for criticism that supports her own self criticism) just because of the assumption that even fair criticism should not be tolerated. Don't be too weak, yet don't be too extreme about criticism either. We learn from criticism, when the type of criticism is appropriate.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: Basically lol, the net likes happy users. If you fall into that category, where you oppose things, you're kinda out of luck, esp on here. This is NOT the site i signed up for two years ago. I have had my share of things, but, to flag and do things for any little thing, is kinda bogus. I was spammed in a room one time and got suspended lol. The dude threatened my life, no joke. So, Idk. The internet is a weird place.
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Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin: I certainly know nothing of the politics behind this website. However, a lot of what Jga7 is upset over, if not all of it, is the fact that I was forced to remove him from a chat room that I run on the website.

I'm not sure how anybody could call debating with people who willingly come into a chat room "extremism", but to each their own. Civil disagreement and debate can be productive. I've learned a lot from them and I certainly hope people I debate have learned some things also.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: You are a atheist, and debate hardcore like Jenkly your points. I went off, i did. I was tired of your fear mongering stuff, etc. You DONT know it all, like theists. I pointed out Charles that I saw you JUST like the theists. You guys defend your beliefs, etc with the same rigor. You are no different. I don't care about your room etc. I just stated my opinion.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: The overused, yet Mythical term that is used on this Site is 'keeping the Peace' , that means that almost anything is allowed by anyone even though that shouldn't be the case. I'd rather things be tranquil and calm where the radical ones are no longer allowed on here, where Atheists, Theists, also People of different Political viewpoints can debate something without being unfair to each other.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: and im NOT upset. I know why i was removed. And i dont care to be in a room full of people who are one sided. That is YOUR room. You judge people right off. That's what you and Jenkly do man. If you didnt, there would be no issue. YOUR room needs to be looked at.
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Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin: Fear mongering stuff?

Of course I don't "know it all", I never said I did. You're welcome to view an atheist just like a theist if you want. That doesn't mean it's extremism.

Of course we defend things we do (and don't) believe. That's part of what it is to have opinions. Like I said before, debates are useful. Debating is not for everybody. I enjoy it and so do many others (including theists). There's nothing wrong with adults taking part in a civil discussion about big topics, even if it, for whatever reason, stresses you out and causes you to insult people repeatedly.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Apart from whatever you two are fighting about there is extremism on various Forums and in other areas on this site, in the literal sense of the word.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: To all, no more insults please. Those that don't do it anyway will understandably know that this message is irrelevant to you.
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Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin: I've seen some Muslim folks on the site say that it would be acceptable to bomb a building if it was for Allah...So yeah, there's definitely extremists on the site....all over on the internet. I see a lot of religious views as a sort of extremism, especially those of many large organized religions.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: You do though. You play with "theists" who come in there, like they are some jig saw puzzle. I watched it, like you guys know it all. I think that is extreme. You're parner is the worst offender. You guys know EVERYTHING and don't consider anyone's point of view. Your room, "convert a unbeilever" is a JOKE. Its a room where its really, I KNOW IT ALL. Charles, i know some about you. You, nor that other guy are remotlely interested in being converted. You gave that title for people to come in. So who's the fraud? lol
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Pacman_
Pacman_: not giving people a chance and setting up a room to engage in your own self beliefs, i see that as extremism sir
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Pacman_
Pacman_: And Charles, YOU are insulting people by not giving them a fair shake. YOU set that room up to show you're own limitations. You set that title to bring people in to show them what you know in you're life. I went into that room as sort of a experiment. I wasnt too fond of the fantasy, religious, savior, etc. I was shocked to find people who knew it all from the other side, and defended themselves with the same rigor as those the opposed. I only responded to this thread cause it read, "are atheists converting into nothing but a jesus mob." That is all. Let those who read this be the judge, I am done here. Peace.
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chronology
chronology: Atheists are a mixed group of people like so called 'believers' are. most Atheists see religion as a mental disorder, and 'believers' trapped in neurotic rituals which give them temporary comfort from whatever is tormenting whatever semblance of a mind they have. Other Atheists see religious people as just dim wits being ridiculed by unscrupulous characters.

Most Atheists however see all the so called 'Holy Books' of religions as the oldest and best 'Chain Letter' or 'Pyramid Scam' schemes ever devised, some Atheists even fear religion, they fear that they will lose their resistance to such a nauseating human perversion and like drug addicts or alcoholics, become a shambling religious infected mug.
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Maybe, just maybe, atheists are people who see no evidence that supports the existence of God.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Most do ? If there is evidence that that is the case then I would agree, but something tells me that it is more of the belief of the individual than that something that is shown to be correct.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: 'Cutting to the chase' it seems more like that of your belief than that of most Atheists.
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Charles Darwin
Charles Darwin: To the comments Jga7 made: I always give people "a chance", I'm never disrespectful to people, and I set up the room so people who were interested in debating religion had a place to do it. There happens to be a lot of theists and atheists who like that sort of thing around here.

Jga7, I sincerely wonder how you can claim to have an education in psychology and be so far off about me. I'm really not a hard person to figure out. If something else is true in the world besides what I know, I want to see evidence for it so I can convert. Adapting closer to truth, whatever that may be, is a very positive thing. It's all I want when it comes to anything I believe in my life. I've never claimed to have "the truth" or know it all. I simply think my position is what is most likely given the evidence I have examined so far in my life. I always examine new evidence when somebody brings it to my attention.

What ghostgeek said is spot on. I don't see evidence for these beliefs that so many people claim that they KNOW are true, and I believe that if they were true, it would have some huge moral implications...we'd have to rewrite what we think is right and wrong based on things God has supposedly done in the Torah/Old Testament.

Now I said it earlier in this post and I said it to Jga7 when chatting with him a while back. You can't classify a group of people based on some members of it. Some Muslims may be extremists and bomb buildings, but it wouldn't be right to say "Muslims are building bombers". If you don't believe in a god, you're an atheist....and you can believe in ghosts, demons, auras, whatever the heck you want....You can deny global warming, evolution and anything else you want.....If you don't believe in a god, that makes you an atheist.....
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Idonthaveausername
Idonthaveausername: JGA!!! YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOMED TO THE BOOTYFUL CULT ROOM!!!! I AM THE ONLY ONE THERE (LOL) YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY COME THERE!!! YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME THERE!!!! IT WILL JUST BE ME AND YOU!!! ^_^
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Pacman_
Pacman_: What i said is why create a room when you know you're not going to change your mind. Answer: So you can show people what you know. Its VERY simple. The theists do the same thing. That was all I was saying Charles. Thanks.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: and truthfully, nobody really "knows" you here, nor me. I think that its funny you can know someone on a chat site. I assume some people can be the same offline as online, and some can be drastically different. So, how am I to know you? I haven't chatted with you for that long. You are one the most fair in your room, but I don't like the "set up" mentality, where people come in, and there is never any intention of being converter. You just wanna show what you know. Later Charles.
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Pacman_
Pacman_: This is why i do not come to religious rooms, spiritual rooms, etc , for the most part anymore. It becomes a intellectual exercise in how much i know vs how much you do. Its like a boxing match, and in the end, there is no winner, you're just left with yourself, you're own beliefs, and sometimes some pretty hostile emotions because it comes down to defending oneself. Sure, you can have a debate without this, but that happens rarely on wire. I do think you are fair, from what i know of you, which is little, but another room mod and a few others in your domain can be a little bit overboard. I saw a christian in there, and it was like was almost mocking her, saying, really, you believe this 100 percent, etc. I don't like that. We are all different and have our ways. Its not my place to be the judge and jury. Again, this is why i avoided rooms like this and will.. You either have a dude on a God complex, or people who claim one doesnt exist and pulls out the firing squad of science and all they know to prove it in their own ways. The truth is, and this is what i believe, we may never know, cause things of the Spirit aren't meant to be known. I am ending this thread for good. I am happy this happened, I learned something from it.
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GeraldtheGnome
GeraldtheGnome: Now those that know what I mean by what I explain are errors please keep what you think of that to yourself if you are out to insult or counter it which is what happens most of the time when I do this, just agree to disagree. Certain words though that are used by some on here I don't see as being correct, that they are more or less just words used out of their true meaning, but are seen by most Internet users as meaning other things than that of there original use. Sorry, but I go for the literal meaning of words, not that of the Internet meanings of any word. So on that I do disagree with Charles and Jga7.
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