Ask a Pagan/Wiccan Questions
That Amazing Guy: The title says it all, I'm a Wiccan and I just want to answer your questions about my religion.
calybonos: Are you now, or have you ever been Gerald Gardner, Aleister Crowley,Tituba, Morgan LeFey, or somebody who was Atlantean royalty?
That Amazing Guy: I highly doubt it. Though I believe in reincarnation I honestly don't care about my past lives.
Corwin: Well... that's a pretty good answer... if you would have said "three" or "seven" I would have figured you for an incompetent boob.
Corwin: But at this point, I at least know that you can change a light bulb... that gives you a score of  in my book.
I keep track of guys like you... you never know when I'll need a guy to climb down into my septic tank and clean out all the dead raccoons I've thrown down there.
Do you have a website, or should we just keep in touch with emails?
Corwin: Do you happen to know where I've left my car keys?
I'll ask my wife as well, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask a Pagan/Wiccan too, just to make use of all my options.
That Amazing Guy: This is why everything needs a home and needs to be put there when you aren't using them.
No I have no clue where it is.
That Amazing Guy: It's said that "All Wiccans are Witches, but not all Witches are Wiccan." Though to be honest there are Wiccans that don't even practise magick at all.
Corwin: All kidding aside for the moment
(you're a good sport, Guy... I like you. )
I'm not particularly familiar with the Wiccan thing, but I read some Aleister Crowley in my younger days. I was a huge Led Zeppelin fan, and Jimmy Page (one of my idols ) was into that stuff (and was successful), so I simply had to investigate it.
I think the best all-around introduction to Magick can be found in his Magick Without Tears, which is a collection of letters he had written to a student, Sara Corror, and pretty much touches base with the entire A - Z of his teachings on the subject. (you might find it an interesting read, Lori)
I had been in search of the paranormal, and sought to "tap in" to forces beyond the ordinary senses... but oddly enough, once you comb through it and filter out the pointless ritual and superstition, there is an underlying philosophy that is very much grounded in reality.
Once I had a firm grasp of it I was disappointed that the "magic" I had sought did not actually exist... there is nothing supernatural or paranormal about "Magick" when you get right down to the basics. Yes, it IS about manipulating forces and energy to do your bidding, but these forces and energies are the ordinary day-to-day ones that we learn about in school... it's just a matter of being aware of them in all their facets and interactions and manipulating them on a more purposeful level.
Basically, any intentional act of will is "Magick"... it's just a matter of whether or not it results in the desired outcome, which determines whether it is "good" Magick or "bad" Magick. But the underlying idea is a matter of forcefully exerting your will through a desired medium, manipulating some kind of energy, and attaining the desired outcome.
I was a professional musician in those days, and there was certainly a relevance to Magick... in fact it's a terrific example of Magick. The primary "energy" involved is electricity... by manipulating the strings of my instrument and creating the proper vibrations and undulations of both instrument and voice (as well as manipulating electricity in subtle forms, such as with mixing consoles and amplification, recording equipment, and the personal listening devices we all have in our cars and in our homes ) you tap in to the the human psyche and mesmerize them. Done properly, the desired outcome is that they become addicted to my particular manipulation of this energy, they flock to see me perform, and they buy copies of my music... and hopefully I get rich.
BUT... that is only the "musical" medium... the other "medium" needed to have attained my desired outcome was a sociopolitical one... the "business" side of it. Media is also a "force" to be reckoned with, and a very necessary one when it comes to fame and fortune. I was a master of the one form of energy, and a buffoon at the other (I needed a good manager). And in Crowley's own words, "It only takes a small leak to sink a very big ship"... my ship sunk.
 Jimmy Page had Peter Grant and Richard Cole... two "minions" who did his bidding (from a Media standpoint)... or did Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin do "their" bidding?
( Makes you think, don't it? )
Crowley made reference to the Third Reich as another example of a powerful act of Magick. When you break it right down to the crux of the matter, Adolph Hitler conquered half of the world by manipulating vibrations in the air -- he used his voice. The "medium", just as with the music industry, was a manipulation of sound-waves, combined with manipulating Media and the sociopolitical environment.
(not that Crowley was condoning the actions of a mass-murderer, he was just siting an example)
Of course, I digress... you brought up Magick, and it seemed like an interesting opportunity to expand this discussion somewhat.
From what I understand about "Wiccan" philosophy, I'm not so sure the two are quite "one-in-the-same". As I said, I'm no expert on the subject, but I was under the impression that Wiccan philosophy was centered around "doing no harm"... almost like a "Karma" sort of thing.
Adolph Hitler may have been an example of powerful Magick, but he pretty much threw Karma out the damned window.
I've only known one "Wiccan" personally... and I use those quotation marks " " because I don't think she knew the first damned thing about it, but just liked to stick a few books on her shelf on the subject and call herself "Wiccan" because it was the cool thing to do.
Then pretend she's a "witch" and that she somehow has "magical" abilities because she dresses Goth and sits in a dark room and lights candles while she gets stoned.
So anyway, I didn't really present a direct "question"... the "boxers or briefs" question was easier to answer.
But I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.
(Edited by Corwin)
Zanjan: I've met a few Wiccans when I invited them to send reps to a convention. I was delighted they responded (the Mormons refused). The Wiccan community was very small and didn't advertise but they sent two people, a man and a woman; both seemed fairly smart with a normal presence - they blended right in.
During our conversation about how people view other religions, I mentioned that they seemed to be very hard to reach. They replied they meet 'quietly' because they feared persecution. This came as quite a surprise because I honestly don't know of anyone who persecutes them, and there's nothing in the news about it.
Could it be that people have learned they're not Satanists....... that they've come to believe they're a harmless divergence?
(Edited by Zanjan)