Religion is the Biggest Joke on the Planet
Metaphorguy: Go read a page of memes about religion and you will see that it is the most absurd, ridiculous, stupid invention by a bunch of illiterate pre-modern superstitious twats and why most of them only gained followers by threatening villages on pain of death to convert.
Why it's still popular in industrial countries and uneducated regions is still absolutely surprising to me. Probably 70% or more of the people on the planet have access to the Internet and the entire encyclopedia yet claim they believe in God.
lori100: --------Many scientists and educated people believe in God,....Einstein, Max-Planck, are two scientists among many others-------------"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.
2.Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.
3.My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.
-----------------5.Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.
6.The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.
----------------12.When the solution is simple, God is answering.
13.God does not play dice with the universe.
14.God is subtle but he is not malicious."
Einstein------------------------------- Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., is the director of the Human Genome Project. His most recent book is "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief.---he is a believer, too
lori100: read and learn...------25 Famous Scientists Who Believed in God
lori100: 50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe ...
Apr 18, 2007 - 50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God. ... --------------------
50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God
- Lists of Influential Scientists
(including lists of scientists who were religious, Christian)
Tihomir Dimitrov's online book of quotations 50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God (2007) is mostly about scientists, although it also features sections about non-scientist Nobel Prize winners. The book can be found at http://nobelists.net/
The author's website describes the book: "This book is an anthology of well-documented quotations. It is a free e-book."
. The individuals included in the book represent a wide range of religious beliefs, religious affiliation, and religious practice.
50 Nobel Laureates includes chapters on the following individuals:
PART I. Nobel Scientists (20-21 Century)
Albert Einstein Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Max Planck Nobel Laureate in Physics Protestant
Erwin Schrodinger Nobel Laureate in Physics Catholic
Werner Heisenberg Nobel Laureate in Physics Lutheran
Robert Millikan Nobel Laureate in Physics probably Congregationalist
Charles Hard Townes Nobel Laureate in Physics United Church of Christ (raised Baptist)
Arthur Schawlow Nobel Laureate in Physics Methodist
William D. Phillips Nobel Laureate in Physics Methodist
William H. Bragg Nobel Laureate in Physics Anglican
Guglielmo Marconi Nobel Laureate in Physics Catholic and Anglican
Arthur Compton Nobel Laureate in Physics Presbyterian
Arno Penzias Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Nevill Mott Nobel Laureate in Physics Anglican
Isidor Isaac Rabi Nobel Laureate in Physics Jewish
Abdus Salam Nobel Laureate in Physics Muslim
Antony Hewish Nobel Laureate in Physics Christian (denomination?)
Joseph H. Taylor, Jr. Nobel Laureate in Physics Quaker
Alexis Carrel Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
John Eccles Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
Joseph Murray Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Catholic
Ernst Chain Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Jewish
George Wald Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Jewish
Ronald Ross Nobel Laureate in Medicine and Physiology Christian (denomination?)
Derek Barton Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Christian (denomination?)
Christian Anfinsen Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Jewish
Walter Kohn Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Jewish
Richard Smalley Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Christian (denomination?)
PART II. Nobel Writers (20-21 Century)
T.S. Eliot Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglo-Catholic (Anglican)
Rudyard Kipling Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglican
Alexander Solzhenitsyn Nobel Laureate in Literature Russian Orthodox
François Mauriac Nobel Laureate in Literature Catholic
Hermann Hesse Nobel Laureate in Literature Christian; Buddhist?
Winston Churchill Nobel Laureate in Literature Anglican
Jean-Paul Sartre Nobel Laureate in Literature Lutheran; Freudian; Marxist; atheist; Messianic Jew
Sigrid Undset Nobel Laureate in Literature Catholic (previously Lutheran)
Rabindranath Tagore Nobel Laureate in Literature Hindu
Rudolf Eucken Nobel Laureate in Literature Christian (denomination?)
Isaac Singer Nobel Laureate in Literature Jewish
PART III. Nobel Peace Laureates (20-21 Century)
Albert Schweitzer Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Lutheran
Jimmy Carter Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Baptist (former Southern Baptist)
Theodore Roosevelt Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Dutch Reformed; Episcopalian
Woodrow Wilson Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Presbyterian
Frederik de Klerk Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Dutch Reformed
Nelson Mandela Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Christian (denomination?)
Kim Dae-Jung Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Catholic
Dag Hammarskjold Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Christian (denomination?)
Martin Luther King, Jr. Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Baptist
Adolfo Perez Esquivel Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Catholic
Desmond Tutu Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Anglican
John R. Mott Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Methodist
Part IV. Founders of Modern Science (16-21 Century)
Isaac Newton Founder of Classical Physics and Infinitesimal Calculus Anglican (rejected Trinitarianism, i.e., Athanasianism;
believed in the Arianism of the Primitive Church)
Galileo Galilei Founder of Experimental Physics Catholic
Nicolaus Copernicus Founder of Heliocentric Cosmology Catholic (priest)
Johannes Kepler Founder of Physical Astronomy and Modern Optics Lutheran
Francis Bacon Founder of the Scientific Inductive Method Anglican
René Descartes Founder of Analytical Geometry and Modern Philosophy Catholic
Blaise Pascal Founder of Hydrostatics, Hydrodynamics,
and the Theory of Probabilities Jansenist
Michael Faraday Founder of Electronics and Electro-Magnetics Sandemanian
James Clerk Maxwell Founder of Statistical Thermodynamics Presbyterian; Anglican; Baptist
Lord Kelvin Founder of Thermodynamics and Energetics Anglican
Robert Boyle Founder of Modern Chemistry Anglican
William Harvey Founder of Modern Medicine Anglican (nominal)
John Ray Founder of Modern Biology and Natural History Calvinist (denomination?)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz German Mathematician and Philosopher,
Founder of Infinitesimal Calculus Lutheran
Charles Darwin Founder of the Theory of Evolution Anglican (nominal); Unitarian
Ernst Haeckel German Biologist,
the Most Influential Evolutionist in Continental Europe
Thomas H. Huxley English Biologist and Evolutionist,
Famous As "Darwin's Bulldog"
Joseph J. Thomson Nobel Laureate in Physics, Discoverer of the Electron,
Founder of Atomic Physics Anglican
Louis Pasteur Founder of Microbiology and Immunology Catholic
Part V. Great Philosophers (17-21 Century)
Immanuel Kant One of the Greatest Philosophers
in the History of Western Philosophy Lutheran
Jean-Jacques Rousseau Founder of Modern Deism born Protestant;
converted as a teen to Catholic
Voltaire French Philosopher and Historian,
One of the Most Influential Thinkers of the Enlightenment raised in Jansenism
David Hume Scottish Empiricist Philosopher, Historian, and Economist,
Founder of Modern Skepticism Church of Scotland (Presbyterian)
Spinoza Dutch-Jewish Philosopher,
the Chief Exponent of Modern Rationalism Judaism; later pantheism/deism
Giordano Bruno Italian Philosopher, Astronomer, and Mathematician,
Founder of the Theory of the Infinite Universe Catholic
lori100: God In America: God in the White House | PBS
Oct 11, 2010 - From Washington to Obama -- the presidents' religious beliefs and their impact on politics. -------------------------------------"To look out at this kind of creation and
not believe in God is to me impossible."
– Astronaut John Glenn
Metaphorguy: Einstein said "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
he also said "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
He had different thoughts about god during his lifetime, clearly going from religious to atheist many times. Whatever he thought doesn't really matter; he was human so he made mistakes and is notorious for being a bad student who flunked classes during highschool and was not even respected as a scientist until months after he submitted his theory of relativity, barely scraping by as a patent clerk.
lori100: the most talented people are often not appreciated until decades later....and what about the 75 others ^^^^?
Quantum Zero31: Don t confuse religion with any aspect of the creator of the universe. They have apparently almost nothing to do with each other
chronology: Java you may be mistaking 'political religion' with real religion.
The rise of the 'Religious Right' has been a disturbing aspect of American Politics. The modern Religious Right is said to have it's roots in the aftermath of Barry Goldwater's defeat in 1964 to LBJ. Republicans knew they were facing a Democratic Party that clearly represented the interests of middle class America. So how do you get sensible people, mostly anyway, to vote for candidates who will undermine their best interests? The answer was to break the solidarity within Democrat Voters and convince some Democrats that religion was more important than their jobs, public services, civil rights, and that GOP candidates were the most 'religious candidates' hey presto you have the 'religious right' .
After the 'Battle of Chicago which saw the Democrats commit suicide in 1968 there was no need to mobilise the religious, but with Mr Reagan the 'New Right' was working hard. And for George H Bush, the New Right was pushing the Gospel of the Holy GOP. There was a precinct by Precinct take over of GOP factions by the Holy Rollers who contributed to Mr George W Bush's victory in 2000.
Not all GOP members agree with this mind numbing religious speel peddled by the New Right. One long serving GOP lady walked out of the Party saying 'the once proud GOP has become a religious cult' .
So religion is no joke in America just a useful and very divisive tool used by some cynical people.
Will middle America ever break free of this spell cast by wizards of illusion and again realize their best interests lie with the Democrats and not some bizarre Hybrid GOP? 2016 will show.
Metaphorguy: chronology that's some pretty heavy research there. yea people claim they are religious when they aren't, except so many verses are contradictory that almost anyone can be devout with enough hail mary's. I particularly like the hypocrisy of John Edwards proselytizing meanwhile he had a child out of wedlock. I don't think they can do any real harm since no one takes them very seriously although I would be a little worried if the president said god talks to him during his sleep or promised Jesus would return any day now.
ghostgeek: Politicians espouse religion to curry favour. Priests indulge in politics to preserve privilege. The public gets taken for a ride by both. Some things never change.
TheismIsUntenable: Oh look, quote mining fallacy by lori in yet another thread. lori, you're dishonest, whether deliberate or not and your commentary here is entirely worthless as a result.
Do you not care to debate with integrity? To put forth sound arguments? To attempt to use reason without error? Honestly, it's becoming a running joke.
Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got seriously out of hand.
(Edited by TheismIsUntenable)
lori100: “You accept the historical Jesus?”
“Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.”
–Albert Einstein, from an interview with the Saturday Evening Post
-----------------------------------Then, last week, American scientists announced the discovery of radiation patterns in space that may mark the beginning of time itself. Said astrophysicist George Smoot, leader of the research team: “If you’re religious, it’s like looking at God. The order is so beautiful and the symmetry so beautiful that you think there is some design behind it.”
“Whatever caused the rapid expansion of the universe following the Big Bang–the same forces caused tiny ripples. Because if you try to do something too fast, you shake a little. God might be the designer. “
–Maclean’s, May 4, 1992 (the two above quotes are by astrophysicist and cosmologist George Smoot).
------------------------------------------“I believe in God. It makes no sense to me to assume that the Universe and our existence is just a cosmic accident, that life emerged due to random physical processes in an environment which simply happened to have the right properties. As a Christian I begin to comprehend what life is all about through belief in a Creator, some of whose nature was revealed by a man born about 2000 years ago.”
—Antony Hewish, winner of the 1974 Nobel Prize in Physics for his discovery of pulsars.
ghostgeek: The point is that we just don't know. Whether it makes sense or not, we cannot assume that existence makes sense. We either know or we don't, and at this point in time we don't.
chronology: Lori, the very challenging aspect of the life of Jesus is His actions such as walking on water and floating up into the sky, and, most of all returning to life after being dead three days. For those of us who have spent our lives studying the Occult we would find these actions of Jesus exceptional, but not impossible. But the average person would find such reports to be ridiculous to say the least.
chronology: Reports of Saints floating around are not really reliable Lori. But even the enemies of Jesus conceded He performed miracles. They simply concluded He was using evil powers.
ghostgeek: Jesus performed miracles? You mean like walking on water? People twigged that one long ago. Notice how in the story there is a strong wind blowing and it is night. Then remember that the boat with the disciples in was heading north. Logically then the disciples would have kept close to shore, both to reduce the distance they needed to travel, and to act as a guide in the dark. As we know, a phenomenon called wind setdown can reduce the surface level of a body of water when a strong wind blows, so it's easy to envisage the disciples boat grounding under the circumstances. They could row and row but go nowhere, and because it was dark and the lake surface was choppy, they could be unaware of their predicament.
So along the shore of the lake comes Jesus and he sees the disciples going nowhere. "Funny," he thinks to Himself so He steps into the water to get a closer look. Well, because of the effect of the wind setdown, He finds Himself paddling in shallow water so continues walking towards the boat. Seems He just about got to it when the wind started to die down. Lucky, because as the wind dropped the level of the water would have begun to rise again. So it was a quick heave-ho into the boat for Jesus and off they all rowed.