Man is the head of wife !!! (Page 2)

Zanjan
Zanjan: Ghost: "There is no human free will in a universe created by an omniscient God."

If you changed Elsafer's name to Bob, guess how many Bobs there are on earth in the same generation. We could safely conclude that every generation for a thousand years or so, will have a very large number of Bobs in each category of humans.

The part that's fated is your form - ie., the colour of your eyes, hair and other personal features, also your talents, both hidden and manifest, even your birth name . We had no choice in this. Some are meant to be saints or angels, some will be rather useless sots, some will be criminals......and a host of everything in between.

You see, God doesn't have to create a special universe or century for Bob because He's always creating Bobs. Why so many Bobs? To keep the balance, man! If everybody was the same, the world would tip over from the weight on one side.

Free Will permits any of those Bobs to spiritually develop on their own AND at their own pace - to rise or fall, to progress or regress *within* their own rank and station. All that an individual can possibly be can only happen through their own volition.

We can't change our fate but we can change our destiny. In any relationship or endeavor, opportunity will knock - we can step up to the plate or miss the bus - that part is Free Will.

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Zanjan
Zanjan: As for your train's destination, don't confuse individual destiny with God's Divine Plan for mankind, which nobody can change. God ensures that track is built - if one of those Bobs refuses to help build it, God will call another Bob who will. He has lots of them; the odds are pretty good that more than one Bob will respond.

If you're a latecomer, then it's your choice whether or not to be a passenger on that train. Those who desire that man should STILL be the head of the wife, they're NOT passengers on the train.
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elsafer
elsafer: and SOON ALL will be revealed....... Praying you all get onto the right train!!
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: Happy are those who think they're right even when they're wrong.
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elsafer
elsafer: its sadder for those who know the truth and watch others reject it
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Not really, I just did that...and I don't care. Probably because I'm not a Christian.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: When you give a person a gift, it should be out of the goodness of your heart, through unconditional love - that means, no strings attached.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Refer to the Bible - one sows the seed, another harvests.

Elsewhere, it's written that no one is so generous as the one who plants a shade tree, knowing he'll never live to see its shade.
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elsafer
elsafer: 1 Corinthians 3:6-9; "I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building."
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elsafer
elsafer: Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: The first verse badly needs updating: As a lifelong gardener, I can rightfully claim that I grew this tomato - I didn't create the tomato. This tomato is my love child; nobody pays me to grow it. As such, it doesn't matter who harvests or who eats it.

God created the light, the water and the seed, and *I* prepared the earth, planted the seed in the light, then brought the water to the seed. It's the nature of the seed to germinate and grow but can only do so under the right conditions.

The last verse is a different application (consequences), which also needs updating because: If the seed has been damaged or has dried up, nothing I can do will repair it and make it live. I'll only know that after the sowing.
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elsafer
elsafer: lol I'm sure to let the LORD know that ZAN thinks His Word needs an update!!!!!
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elsafer
elsafer: God bless you Zan....
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Zanjan
Zanjan: You're a little late to supper - He's already updated it.
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elsafer
elsafer: You don't know HIM Zan .
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Zanjan
Zanjan: Elsafer, I know what a Gardener does and why. As such, I know the difference between a gardener and a farmer. The Faith of God is a Garden. You, on the other hand, still have to explain the reality of the New World all around you.
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elsafer
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Ghost who would find any happiness in seeing you not only deceiving yourself ,but also those that believe you

"Happy are those who think they're right even when they're wrong."


It's never been a Question of Right or Wrong !
The Truth is what it is !
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: It would seem that the truth is out there, but happens to be a long, long way away from the eyes of believers. So they squabble between themselves while always claiming to be right.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: The eyes of believers, eh. If you take a survey of what they think of the religions of God, most would tell you they're hospitals. Some are active hospitals while others are auxiliaries - that is, for long term care. There's always a queue, with people waiting to get into one or out of the other.

You, Ghost, have made countless claims to be right and want to stay where you've settled; so, what makes you any different? That you're self-medicated?
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ghostgeek
ghostgeek: If there was a God there would be no squabbling about God yet you, Zanjan, squabble all the time with Blackshoes. Only one conclusion can therefore be drawn. There is no God.
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Zanjan
Zanjan: As you know, Shoes so often rants on without a listener - it's a one-man squabble. How can I squabble unless I ask rhetorical questions or tell someone they're wrong? The latter, I never do. Have you noticed I don't ask Shoes questions of any kind?

What I do is correct erroneous assertions by using real facts and illustrations. Most of the time, I just scroll over posts which haven't made a personal contribution.
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Whatever Your Excuse Ghost for Not believing the truth . Using Me as a Excuse or reason not to accept the facts and Evidence is beyond any reason or Logic ..
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Blackshoes
Blackshoes: Getting back too Husband and Wife's ',
A number of years ago my friends wife divorced him .in part because he was adamantly against her Buying a Motorcycle .
Her Own brother was also against her riding !
Shortly after the divorce she Purchased one
Less that a year later 'wile riding here new Motorcycle ,She ran into head on into a truck, in which she barely survived
Due to the accident crushing her face she lose both eyes and had to have her face entirely reconstructed .
She choose not to listen !


The woman Husband told or request that she not walk the Dogs alone . He had seen alligators near the water in the park ',in the story below . She choose not to listen !
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/florida-gator-caught-in-search-for-woman/index.html
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Zanjan
Zanjan: A person chose not to listen to guidance offered - that guidance wasn't about gender or sexual orientation. If one orders another to do something, that order must fall under the laws of the country's Constitution and other Acts. Otherwise, the order has no authority.

What a handy coincidence there was a motorcycle accident. Maybe in the dark of night, he did some tinkering on the bike, eh, with the intent being her death. Very common among men who were divorced by their wives..or who learn their wives are going to divorce them.

A guy who was a friend of my parents, one morning, blew up his whole house with his wife in it (rigged a gas explosion). She had arranged to go to a safe house that evening. She died 3 days later in hospital. It wouldn't surprise me to learn you had friends like that, Shoes.

Making a purchase, obviously, is not grounds for divorce. Maybe the woman's brother had a bad feeling about her husband, knowing what a malicious jerk he was.
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