The Bible (Page 9) GeraldtheGnome: The evidence for all of that is where exactly ? The Book if it was Cake would be like this, full of artificial ingredients all because those that really composed its stories liked it that way and were very prejudicial, meanwhile the very top of it is topped off with a very light sprinkling of the truth. Another thing, those that refer to themselves as Humanists, as one did months ago here, are pretentious Wankers that give themselves pretentious titles such as that they are Humanists.  edmund_carey: No serious Biblical scholar - or for that matter any thinking person - regards the Bible as "fantasy". The Bible is what the Iliad is: a conflation of history and myth. Those who take a religious view of it consider both of those things to be the language of God. Those who don't take that view consider both to be the language of man. And literary critics universally consider it to be among the greatest literature of the world. No reason to get lost in any of that. GeraldtheGnome: Many of the Scholars though do consider it to be a fantasy, many think it’s great, many don’t. Apart from that my last English would have had a go at me if I made a paragraph such as yours, especially if I used and to start a sentence. Not all of it was bad though.  MJ59: It surprises me to learn that non believers aren't "thinking" people according to those who know "The TRUTH" lol All that thinking I did to reach my conclusions must have been fake thinking rofl  srbiddy09: Honestly, The Bible pales in comparison to anything written by John Grisham or Mary Higgins Clark. GeraldtheGnome: There are those that only see what they wish to see. They don’t see everything for what everything actually is. (Edited by GeraldtheGnome) srbiddy09: So you actually believe that Noah had three sons when he was 500 years old? (Genesis 5:32) edmund_carey: "Honestly, The Bible pales in comparison to anything written by John Grisham or Mary Higgins Clark." Honestly, this remark gave me my laugh of the month. I think there must be grade eight students who are more sophisticated than this about literature. I look forward to the likes of Harold Bloom and Northrop Frye devoting whole volumes to the literary greatness of John Grisham and Mary Higgins Clark. edmund_carey: Oops, you're right, at least effectually. My sense of humour cannot, shall we say, be depended on! GeraldtheGnome: When you bring up you believe rather than you know it shows that you guess you are right rather than you know for sure. As far as if one Author has a Book or has Books that are better than another Author or than that of at least two other Authors is a matter of personal taste. However when it comes to the Bible it is better to read any Book that isn’t mistaken for being an accurate depiction of historical accounts. GeraldtheGnome: I am literal about things so in the literal sense they aren’t discussions, in the other way they vaguely are, however I agree with you, also if someone thinks something is better than anything else even though I disagree then that is okay too. He missed out on a full stop though. WHlSKY: The Bible was well-written. Let’s put beliefs and emotions aside. Compared to the other written material during its time, it has still managed to be debated, discussed and serve as inspiration to many. If it was poorly written, I think it’ll be easily dismissed and be read less. If I had written a book that caused a devoted Following, across culture, language and countries, spanning a period of thousands of years, I’d be strangely pleased with myself. (Edited by WHlSKY) GeraldtheGnome: That’s completely wrong, for a start it has grammatical errors, also you yourself have not put your own beliefs and emotions about it aside, instead you’ve shown a religious bias in favour of it. It is a Human interpretation of the unknown. Do you want me to prove that ? That can be easily done. It is a fantasy book. I’m not against Gnostic Theism, I am though against every religious story. Well actually I’m against the certainty that there is a God due to no evidence so far has been shown by anyone. (Edited by GeraldtheGnome) WHlSKY: 1) Grammatical errors according to what? The ancient hebrew/greek scrolls? Do state what you are referring to. 2) Since you claim that I have not placed my beliefs and emotions aside, do state to me my expressed belief and my emotional state. 3) It does not matter the belief taken from the bible. What I stated that compared to other items written during its time the bible has managed to be presently debated and influential ( this is not incorrect, as this one thread has demonstrated). Do you have anything solid to refute my statements or are you going work yourself up due to ‘being against every religious story’? WHlSKY: Definition Well-written (adj) : written in an effective or interesting way. The bible is composed of several books and various writers. We can establish what makes a book ‘well-written’. I personally looked at (a) the level of influence the writing has on its readers (b) the distribution, how widely it has been made available in language and countries (c) how many have purchased it (d) the writing styles. I have found a list online [1] (1) A strong opening (2) Compelling characters (3) An absorbing story (4) Sharp dialogue (5) Unique style [1] https://www.masterclass.com/articles/the-elements-of-a-good-book#the-5-elements-of-a-good-book GeraldtheGnome: I’m an Agnostic Theist, even though I believe that there is a God I still will never get upset if someone showed me evidence that a God and a certain Jesus is made up. Interestingly enough if you factor in what Atheism fully means then most Theists that don’t think that they are Atheists are Atheists and Theists all at the same time. Looking at the sentence I just made it seems to be very contradictory until you find out why it is anything but a contradictory thing for me to tell you. The below has a misleading title, it also contains grammatical errors, nonetheless it shows arguments for and against the Bible. If it is such a literary masterpiece that only contains what once happened then why is it the direct opposite of all of that ? WHlSKY: I am not present to debate religion. I am responding to the point by explaining how the bible can be considered “well-written”. If someone chooses to believe in a God or not, does not interest me. I considered the bible as “well-written” for the reasons I have stated above. | Religion Chat Room 22 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
