Allah The one and only God (Page 4)

xylance: If you want to know the truth you will look it up. If you don't want to it's pointless me trying to persuade you.

GeraldtheGnome: Grammatical errors were made on this forum. Even the word the in the title was the, then there was the mistake of putting God rather than god in the false claim and there should have been a full stop at the end of the Atheist false claim. Allah and God are both names for imaginary gods. You can’t have that there is an Allah and that he is also named God. Any claim that there is only one god of Islam is not only an Atheist statement, it’s also not true in another way since Islam is a Polytheist based religion.

No one can prove that any religious god or goddess is around right now. You are an Agnostic Polytheist Atheist.

GeraldtheGnome: When you believe that there is only one god around somewhere right now or whatever you believe then it means that there is more than one god that you don’t believe in. So everyone is an Atheist about many gods but Muslims are Polytheists about their gods and goddesses if the goddesses do apply to Islam as well.

firstdown857: GeraldtheGnome✋SIMPLE QUESTION FOR YOU!. :- Who created the heavens and earth and subjected the sun and the moon?

GeraldtheGnome: No one. Your grammar is awful. The name is Allah or God for the name of the imaginary god that you think is not made up, it’s not both. There is no one and only god by any known name.

firstdown857: GeraldtheGnome👤8:22 Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason.

8:23 Had Allah known any good in them, He would have made them hear. And if He had made them hear, they would [still] have turned away, while they were refusing.


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GeraldtheGnome: Allah is around somewhere right now has not been proven. What is the earliest that the name Allah was written down anywhere ? How did Allah come to be according to you if he is around ? Where did he come from if he is around somewhere right now ? What does he look like if he is anywhere somehow ? How did he create if he was around in the past ? Neither of us are deaf or dumb, neither of us even know if there is at least one god or goddess around right now, if there is at least one god around somewhere right now then we do not know his name or anything about him, not even where he is.

No one will ever find out how life originated on Earth so no one will ever get any money by working it out. The universe never had a beginning yet everything within it does have an origin, it also has no limits, all within it, including any possible god or goddess had a beginning and will have an end. Religious books only contain words from mere mortals that never had anything to do with a god or goddess directly or indirectly..

GeraldtheGnome: God is a Feudal Age god, a Christian god, Allah as a Muslim god. So your claim should be that Allah is the only god who is around somewhere right now. No matter what you are an atheist, also an agnostic and a polytheist.

mrsmargaret48: Gerald you are the best advert for God/religion. I cant make head nor tail of anything you say, your words to us mere mortals read like gobbledygook. Your inaccurate historical, theological and scientific mishmash proves nothing but a lack of knowledge and understanding.

firstdown857: mrsmargaret48 Islam Is The Only Truly Universal Religion!.

Islam is the religion taught in its fundamentals by all the prophets. It is the religion which the first human being was instructed to follow. It is the religion of Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and all other prophets (peace be upon them all) throughout the existence of human beings.
From the world view of Islam, most of the world's major religions originated in the pure religion of Islam itself and only through the teachings being lost, forgotten or wilfully corrupted have these religions changed. Judaism claims special status for the Jews as the chosen people - a status which cannot be acquired except through birth [1] and which makes a Jew superior to any non-Jew (goyim) whatever their beliefs. Christianity insists that you must believe in various doctrines which form the foundations of what is distinctively 'Christian' belief in order to be 'saved' (i.e. that Jesus (peace be upon him) died to atone for the sins of Mankind, that Allah is a trinity etc.). This doctrine, the (Catholic) church itself admits [2], didn't develop until several hundred years after Christ and so cannot possibly have applied to those before Jesus nor to his early followers. In contrast to this, Islam has at its core, a simple message which applies to all human beings before Muhammad (pbuh) and all after his time:
"...And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if you are truthful." Nay whoever submits his whole self to Allah and is a doer of good, he will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.Qur'an 2:111-112
The word used in this verse for 'submits' is 'aslama'. It is from this verb that the word 'Islam' comes as 'the submitting'. Islam is a word that doesn't have any connection with an area or a particular character from history, it is the one and only truly universal religion and fittingly it has a truly universal name:
...... The word "Islam" means voluntary submission to the will of Allah.

Islam Is The Natural Religion!.....
Islam is known not only as a rational and moral way of life prescribed for all of mankind, it is known by the term 'Din ul-Fitra' or 'the natural religion'. Islam is the religion designed by the Creator of mankind for the benefit of mankind and therefore fits human nature perfectly. Being Muslim is living in harmony with your human nature.
Natural desires are considered as coming from Allah and put into people for good reason. They don't need to be repressed but rather simply channelled into the right ways of being fulfilled. So, for example, in Islam getting married is considered 'half of the religion' and each act of making love between a husband and his wife is an act of worship.
When a person is born he/she is purely natural, free of sin and Muslim. Humans, we are told in the Qur'an, are made in the best of forms and start life with a huge plus. It is only in later life that their environments may lead them to take beliefs or adopt practices that contradict Islam.
Because of our nature, deep down we all need to find our purpose in life; we all know we have moral responsibilities and we all know that, if anything ought to be, then Allah must exist.
This being part of human nature, no one can claim that their disbelief was the result of ignorance alone. Disbelief is always, at some level, a conscious and sinful act.
On the day of judgement the conscience of the disbeliever will be his or her own damning evidence.

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GeraldtheGnome: To the Troll. I never have come up with anything that has shown that I am even a slight ad for any religion. You are not one to let the truth get in the way of one of your stories though. You never use reason at all. God is a name, not a title, the name only goes back to the time of The Middle Ages.

The Feudal Age started in 732 AD, it ended in the twelfth century. The earliest still intact Christian material during that age was in the tenth century, God the name, was used then, any claim that the name was before that is only guessed to be true. It however was possibly used before then. When you go back to anything about the Christian god in the ninth century then the name god is used. So somewhere between the first known written example of the name god and that of the tenth century the Early English name god (in lower case), became the Early English name God, since then it was the chosen name in English and the chosen name for that god centuries later with Dutch, English and Afrikaans speakers. Your claim of inaccuracy about history is based on the time that I guessed about where one died, you have had a stupid little victory dance about it ever since. I rushed reading something, you are also being a hypocrite since you claimed that the name God was used by the Arians, unlike me you never corrected that mistake and unlike me you just found out that you made that mistake. As any typical creationist is known for, you for example, you came to the conclusion that if I made a mistake there then I am historically inaccurate there, also because I don't agree with your delusional way of thinking about science and religion then I am completely inaccurate about all of that too.

Because I don't agree with you then self righteous, self important you thinks that you can insult me and lie about me. You make false accusations and false claims on a regular basis, with the exception of one time only you have proven nothing at all except that you have a lack of knowledge and understanding of things, you've never proven everything that you have come out with and you have never even proven that you are even possibly right. How is that marriage of yours ? You were completely off topic on here and only interested in personal attacks. That is why you are a Troll. I literally never said anything on this text based site, we are all mere mortals and you are nothing but a creationist who can't tell the difference between what is real and what is made up. Sure, the name god or even the later God may have been around longer than anyone has found, the thing is though that none of us will ever know. Yes, someone doesn't go along with your fantasy then you can not understand anything, after all you have that Earth was created from nothing. So quit being a hypocrite.

To Firstdown. It doesn't matter whether a god is named God or Allah or by any other name. Each religious god is still made up. The first Human was not religious, also whoever it was and whatever the gender that one was is unknown. Mythology, which is really what each religion is about, came later. Allah was not a creator of anything and there never was a creator. All creation claims have been disproved. Something always came from nothing, so your guy in the video is wrong about the belief that everyone who doesn't agree with him thinks a certain way. He was comical though. He was also wrong about many things. A god of any kind was never around before all others, also there is no proof that there even is a god anywhere right now. There possibly is at least one god or goddess around right now. There will never be a way to prove that a god is around anywhere though. The meaning of life is to make the most of this life. Stop thinking that there is something for anyone beyond this life.

Nothing ever was created and nothing can was ever destroyed, nothing will ever be created or destroyed, instead all that once was became material for what came about later on.

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_Chemistry/Introductory_Chemistry/03%3A_Matter_and_Energy/3.07%3A_Conservation_of_Mass_-_There_is_No_New_Matter

Religious prophets of any religion never knew any god or goddess, what they mentioned was made up, then again some of those that are claimed to be prophets never even existed. Noah never existed, nor did Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and many others. Peace is a myth, things being calm and tranquil is possible though, even that never last though. I am one for the Ankh and for sanctuary, but enough about ancient Egyptian beliefs. No religion is for all, this is shown by statistics. The term is just view, there is now need for world view and it should be about Muslims, not about Islam, the religion of Muslims. No religion is 'pure'. Islam and that of The Quran have flaws within the ideological message that Muslims think is flawless. Many of Judaism, not of Judaism have claimed a special status for the Jews in the way that you have mentioned. That is not unlike what some Muslims themselves have done ? There was no use for tat many hyphens. A number of Christians, especially Creationists, think of themselves as being superior. Some Jews have done that, so too some Muslims and so on.

We all have made mistakes, none of us are better than each other. Each of us are better than others in some ways and of course those other than ourselves are better than us in many ways. You for example are right about certain things that you have mentioned on here. I have not seen the reason for a heap of full stops, quotation marks when they are not needed, the word and used the way some people use it and so on. There is no 'right' religion, all religions are just myths. There was no reason to just use the return key for no reason and then just continue on after that. What anyone does in this life makes someone a good or a bad person. No one is born of any religion. There is nothing sinful about not being religious. Even those who are religious were born as atheists, lived as atheists and they will die as atheists. Everyone is also agnostic too. Muslims, Jews, Christians and so on are polytheists. They are atheists in a sense. What is that one spoken Muslim word anyway ? Don't use words only in capitals and stop using those symbols please.