666 is an abbreviated title for " Christ " JacquesTrappe: As per the title, it's written as a classical nomen sacrum in Greek manuscripts YouTube (Edited by JacquesTrappe) (Post deleted by Apokalupto ) JacquesTrappe: Lol, let's review then: (χ) xi = 600 (ξ) ksi = 60 (ς) stigma = 6 (χ) xi + (ξ) ksi = χξ = XC, since the lunate sigma C replaces ξ XC = Common Christogram χξ = Christogram Therefore, the basis of 666 as written in Greek is the common Christogram, used practically countless times in Greek manuscripts Now, moving on, the author/s wrote the letter " stigma " on the end of the Christogram ς ( stigma ) as a noun means " mark / sign " The name, stigma (στίγμα), is originally a common Greek noun meaning "a mark, dot, puncture", or generally "a sign", from the verb στίζω ("(I) puncture"; the related but distinct word stigme (στιγμή) is the classical and post-classical word for "geometric point; punctuation mark". As a noun " stigma " is used to refer to Christ's wounds So all they really did was affix the " mark " to the Christogram Also, you missed the fact that both 616 and 666 are written with a titlo 616 uses a Monogram 666 uses a Christogram Rather simple stuff here Btw, a titlo is a " little horn " JacquesTrappe: Oh, it isn't ? Well that's wrong, in a number of ways, lets cover them: First of all, 666 is clearly written as a nomen sacrum, this can easily be seen in papyrus 47 Secondly, a titlo is a commonly used Greek notation for divinity/divine objects/people/places, meaning that 666 belongs on the list of known nomina sacra: God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, Heaven, and 666 Third, since written languages prior to the Bible also used a silent determinative in literature for divinity, in this case the cognate to " an " ( dingir ) 𒀭 is the Semetic El 𒀭 was written next to the names of deified kings, ie sacerdotal rulers ie priest-kings ( Like Jesus ) and this was the norm in literature since Naram-Sin Since 𒀭 was originally a Sumerian ideogram of a star before it was used like a trademark™ for divinity, it can be shown that Biblical phrasing does indeed refer to this tradition, several times " Star in the pit " " A Star from Jacob " etc Therefore, 𒀭 = god/God = literary notation for divinity, making the titlo over 666 the cognate to the earlier Mesopotamian 𒀭 But if you really want to get into this topic, we can do it on my forum, where I can easily show these numbers 666 and 144,000 are taken directly from a body of work regarding mathematical astronomy as done by priest-kings Let me know (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: Let's continue using the Greek concordance ----------------------------- Strong's Greek 4742 stigma: a mark or brand Original Word: στίγμα, ατος, τό Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter Transliteration: stigma Phonetic Spelling: (stig'-mah) Definition: a bed of leaves or rushes Usage: a mark or brand. stígma – properly, a brand mark burned into the skin; (figuratively) "holy scars" that go with serving Jesus as Lord (used only in Gal 6:17). 4742 /stígma ("brand-mark" refers to the literal scars on Paul from the lictor's rods at Pisidian Antioch, the stoning at Lystra, etc. These "marked Paul off" as the slave of Jesus (bearing "holy scars for Christ". [Brand-marks (4742 /stígma), like "tatoos" (Gk stigmata), were burned into the skin of slaves in NT times – proving they belonged to a particular owner.] ---------------------------------------- Now we'll see how it's used in scripture Galatians 6:17 King James Version (KJV) " From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus " " holy marks " You, as a christian " bear the mark/s " of Jesus, as per the written word (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: I was kind of surprised nobody wanted to comment on the " little horn " I know you're confused, so let me help you out again Let's go, once again, to the Greek concordance ------------------------------------------------- Strong's Greek 2762 keraia: a little horn Original Word: κεραία, ας, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: keraia Phonetic Spelling: (ker-ah'-yah) Definition: a little horn Usage: a little hook, an apostrophe on letters of the alphabet, distinguishing them from other little letters, or a separation stroke between letters. 2762 keraía – properly, a little "horn," i.e. " 'a little hook, an apostrophe' on letters of the alphabet, distinguishing them from other like-letters, or a 'separation stroke' between letters" (Souter); a tittle (KJV). ["Tittle" comes from the Latin, titulus – the stroke above an abbreviated word – and later, any small mark. "In Vay. R. 19 the guilt of altering one of them is pronounced so great that if it were done the world would be destroyed" (so McNeile).] --------------------------------------------- Now, as I stated before, this refers to the little line drawn over ALL nomina sacra ( sacred names ) and this includes 666 Let's see what Jesus had to say about it Matthew 5:18 (KJV) " For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled " Luke 16:17 ( KJV ) " And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail " You denying that 666 is written with a titlo is you denying the written word, AND what Jesus himself was quoted as saying BOOM, how ya like dem apples ? Let's go on Again, the basic Greek concordance -------------------------- Strong's Greek 5102 titlos: a title, inscription Original Word: τίτλος, ου, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: titlos Phonetic Spelling: (tit'-los) Definition: Titius (surnamed Justus), a Christian Usage: a title, inscription. τίτλος, τιτλου, ὁ, a Latin word, a title; an inscription, giving the accusation or crime for which a criminal suffered: John 19:19, 20, and after it Ev. Nic c. 10, 1 at the end. Of Latin origin; a titulus or "title" (placard) -- title. --------------------------------- let's turn to the scriptures and see how it's used John 19:19 (KJV) " And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was Jesus Of Nazareth The King Of The Jews. " John 19:20 (KJV) " This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin " Little horn, anybody ? Bueller.........Bueller............Bueller......... (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) JacquesTrappe: " there will be signs in the sky " Oh, yes indeed there will be Anybody remotely familiar with the mathematical astronomy of the priest-kings, like myself for example, would know this: Hebrew ( Tav ) - mark, sign, seal Greek ( Stigma ) - mark Tav = 400 Stigma = 6 (400/6)*10 = 666.666... 144,000 / 666 = 216.216... 144,000 / 216 = 666.666 Therefore: 144,000 / 216 = (400/6)*10 = 666.666 144,000*6 = 864,000 ( Sun's approximate diameter, in miles ) 216*10 = 2,160 ( Moon's approximate diameter, in miles ) 864,000 / 2,160 = 400 = Tav Therefore: 400 is a dimensionless number representing proportionality in the 3-body system during an eclipse Also known as a " sign in the sky " Had I not been familiar with these calculations through my studies of Babylonian ephemerides used by sacerdotal kings, I would be as confused as you guys But, I'm not 144,000 / (400*60) = 60 That's because the standard approximate lunar distance unit is ~ 60 Earth radii The Moon's orbit has a radius of about 384,000 km (239,000 miles; approximately 60 Earth radii) Hence sexigesimal mathematics dominated Mesopotamia JacquesTrappe: Let's continue, we've hardly started ------------------------------------- Strongs Greek 2768 keras: a horn Original Word: κέρας, ατος, τό Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter Transliteration: keras Phonetic Spelling: (ker'-as) Definition: a horn Usage: (a) a horn, (b) a horn-like projection at the corner of an altar, (c) a horn as a symbol of power. HELPS Word-studies 2768 kéras– properly, an animal horn; (figuratively) an instrument of power, i.e. that overcomes by displaying overpowering strength. [2768 /kéras ("horn" symbolizes the strength of (horned) bulls (see Ps 132:17).] ----------------------------- A few verses for example Revelation 12:3 (KJV) " And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads " Revelation 13:11 (KJV) " And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon " ------------------------------- Naturally, this has a cognate in Hebrew so we'll hit the concordance again ------------------------------ Strongs Hebrew 7161 qeren: a horn Original Word: קֶרֶן Part of Speech: noun feminine; proper name, of a location; noun feminine Transliteration: qeren Phonetic Spelling: (keh'-ren) Definition: a horn NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin from an unused word Definition a horn NASB Translation hill (1), horn (24), horns (46), might (1), rays (1), strength (1), tusks (1). --------------------------------- A few verses for context: Leviticus 4:34 " The priest shall take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and pour all the remaining blood at the base of the altar. " 1 Samuel 2:10 (KJV) " The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed " ------------------------ This would make the Greek " keras ' the cognate to the Hebrew " qeren " Both = " horn " This in turn has a lovely older cognate in cuneiform Sumerian: si [HORN] (262x: ED IIIa, ED IIIb, Old Akkadian, Lagash II, Ur III, Early Old Babylonian, Old Babylonian, Middle Babylonian, unknown) wr. si "horn; finger; fret" Akkadian: qarnu; ubānu Therefore: Sumerian : si => Akkadian: qarnu => Hebrew : qeren => Greek : keras The Egyptian cognate would be " t'ba " ( digit / finger ) You might be familiar with the finger from Mesopotamian relics like the Stele of Hammurabi ( or not, lol ) JacquesTrappe: Being that the " finger/horn " was a fundamental unit of measurement in Mesopotamia and Egypt, it's best we get into some basic math for a minute First off, the finger/s were used by priests to make approximate measurements when recording astronomical phenomenon, these include angular separation between bodies in the heavens, speed of the moon, eclipses, as well as what constellations were in what house at what time ( The Zodiac, aka the Mazzaroth ) If you are interested, you can read this paper detailing the use of the finger: Angular measurements in Babylonian astronomy L. J. Fatoohi and F. R. Stephenson Archiv für Orientforschung Bd. 44/45 (1997/1998), pp. 210-214 I have posted a link to a graphic on my blog, below to illustrate this simple system of measures ( Still in use today by modern astronomers after thousands of years, I might add ) jacquestrappe Here's the basics: 1 finger held at arms length, the tip will obscure the moon, approximately 1 finger then = 1° = 1 arcminute = 3600 arcseconds 1/3600 of the moon's total orbit = 1° = ~ 2 metric seconds on a pendulum What this means is that you are literally counting off the moon's movement through space, on your finger/s Nevermind that this means that ancient astronomers understood what's stated in the pendulum equation,T = 2π * √(L/g) ...because more importantly this number 3600 is also........drumroll please....... A " garden " Sumerian: šar (, Ur III, Old Babylonian) " 3600" Akkadian: kiššatu; mâdu Sumerian: sar ( Old Akkadian, Ur III, Early Old Babylonian, Old Babylonian, uncertain, unknown) "garden; a unit of area; a unit of volume" Akkadian: mūšaru Now, it's funny to me, all the arrogance from religious people, when it comes to this topic, because they will go on and on about " 666 is satan's number and satan is the devil and the serpent and he was in the garden " ...and I wholeheartedly agree, that is indeed what the Bible says But you know what ? Guess what we get when we multiply that supposed evil number by the garden ? 666*3600 = 2,396,700 Oh, lookie there Apply a unit like the kilometer, since a " garden " as a unit of area = 36^2 METERS, and you get the approximate distance the moon travels in one full month Now, Chaldeans in Ur, Babylon already knew this, because they used these numbers for eclipse cycle calculations Since the moon was named " Sīn /ˈsiːn/ or Suen (Akkadian: 𒂗𒍪 EN.ZU, pronounced Su'en, Sîn) ", it's no surprise you have the number 666 being associated with " sin " how scary But let's go on Like the so-called " Saros " cycle of eclipses, which is the time it takes for the 3-body system to return to the same relative positions on the ecliptic It's called a " Saros ", but it derives from " šar " ( Garden / 3600 ) Stay tuned..... JacquesTrappe: Book of Revelation (13:18): "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" The word rendered here "count", ψηφισάτω, psephisato, has the same "pebble" root as the word isopsephy: Isopsephy (/ˈaɪsəpˌsɛfi/; ἴσος isos meaning "equal" and ψῆφος psephos meaning "pebble" or isopsephism is the practice of adding up the number values of the letters in a word to form a single number.The total number is then used as a metaphorical bridge to other words evaluating the equal number, which satisfies isos or "equal" in the term. The early Greeks used pebbles arranged in patterns to learn arithmetic and geometry, which corresponds to psephos or "pebble" and "counting" in the term. These were used to teach fundamental relationships between numbers and geometry Now, , mathematically, 666 is what is known as a " triangular figurate " number, ( Among falling into other classifications we'll see in further posts ) because 666 round objects like coins, would form a triangle: △ You may be familiar with a few other triangular figurate numbers from the Bible, like 153 or 2701 ( The mathematical value of Genesis 1:1 ) What you may not be familiar with is the fact that these numbers have been used for astronomy calculations for thousands of years, all of which I will explain More modern examples would include the work of the Irish monk Dicuil in about 816, in his Computus Computus (Latin for "computation" is a calculation that determines the calendar date of Easter However, I will stick with the " number of the beast " and the " garden ", etc for now, and I'll show you some Chaldean calculations for the " Saros " cycle of eclipses I will use what modern Judaism uses, the synodic month average, of roughly 29.53 days The time units of traditional Hebrew calendar arithmetic are years, months, days, hours, and parts (chalakim). One part (chelek) equals 10/3 seconds = 3+1/3 seconds = 1/18 of a minute = 1/1080 of an hour = 1/25920 of a day On page 25a of the Talmud Bavli tractate Rosh HaShanah, Rabban Gamliel is quoted as saying: "Thus have I received a tradition from the house of my father's father: the rebirth of the Moon is not less than twenty-nine and half days, two-thirds of an hour, and seventy-three parts from the previous one." That is, 29 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes, and 73 parts. Expressed in terms of days with an exact fractional remainder that equals: 29 + 1/2 + 40/(24 × 60) + 73/(1080 × 24) days = 29 + 1/2 + 40/1440 + 73/25920 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days This exactly matches the figure that was published by Ptolemy in his voluminous astronomy text, Almagest (literally "The Great Book", the name assigned to it by Arab translators centuries later), but Ptolemy cited Hipparchus as the source for the mean duration of the lunation (average interval between successive matching lunar phases). Ptolemy gave the mean lunation length (mean synodic month) in sexagesimal, the customary base 60 numeral system used by the ancient Babylonians (since the Seleucid era after 312 BC): base 60 mean synodic month = 29 days 31' 50'' 8''' 20'''' That is, 29 days, 31 minutes, 50 seconds, 8 thirds, and 20 fourths. Expressed in base 10 numerals in terms of days with an exact fractional remainder that equals: 29 + 31/60 + 50/(60 × 60) + 8/(60 × 60 × 60) + 20/(60 × 60 × 60 × 60) days = 29 + 31/60 + 50/3600 + 8/216000 + 20/12960000 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days The value here is identical to what was predicted by the Babylonians using a crude forerunner to Modern Fourier analysis, called a ZigZag function, to predict the average instead of calculating it from observations ( Which is rather impressive ) In decimal 29.530594135802469 days, often shortened to 29.53 days for most simple calculations Now we move on to the trickier stuff We already know that: 666*3600 = 2,396,700, in kilometers = the approximate distance the moon travels through space in 1 month And: 1/3600 = distance the moon travels in ~ 2 metric seconds as defined with a pendulum, 1 finger = 1° = 3600 arcseconds = 1 finger / horn And that these numbers are both triangular figurates: 153 is △ ( Triangular ) 666 is △ ( Triangular ) So first we take the root, square: √153 = 12.36931687685298 Truncating this to 12.369 gives us the number of synodic months per year: 12.369 months When multiplied by the synodic month average, we get the approximate year length: 29.53(days)*12.369 = 365.25657 ( days) In astronomy, a Julian year (symbol: a) is a unit of measurement of time defined as exactly 365.25 days of 86400 SI seconds each Now I will introduce the floor function, https://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/function-floor-ceiling.html which is a simple rounding function, in this case ⌊number⌋ equals rounding down ↓ ⌈number⌉ equals rounding up ↑ Check it: (666*3600)/29.53 = 81,192.00812732814 Then (△666*3600)/29.53 divided by √△153*29.53 ( Always truncated to 12.369) = 81,192.00812732814 divided by 365.25 = 222.2916033602413 ( Months ) So then if: 29.53(days)*√△153 = the Julian year Now, the Suda: ( The Suda or Souda (/ˈsuːdə/; Medieval Greek: Σοῦδα, romanized: Soûda; Latin: Suidae Lexicon) is a large 10th-century Byzantine encyclopedia of the ancient Mediterranean world, formerly attributed to an author called Soudas (Σούδας) or Souidas (Σουίδας). It is an encyclopedic lexicon, written in Greek, with 30,000 entries, many drawing from ancient sources that have since been lost, and often derived from medieval Christian compilers ) It says this: " For 120 saroi make 2220 years (years of 12 lunar months) according to the Chaldeans' reckoning, if indeed the saros makes 222 lunar months, which are 18 years and 6 months (i.e. years of 12 lunar months)." (△666*3600)/29.53 divided by √△153*29.53 = 222.2916033602413 Thus: ⌊ (△666*3600)/29.53 divided by √△153*29.53 ⌋ = 222 ( lunar months ) = 1 full Saros cycle of eclipses The cuneiform for 3600/garden is , so really one could sub that in for notation as long as it's clear ⌊ (△666*𒊬)/29.53 divided by √△153*29.53 ⌋ = 1 Saros This is of course, very simple stuff The doom will come when I get into 2701 and the 7 seals It's a puzzle invented by priests that I cracked JacquesTrappe: So yeah, " sin " the moon, was in the " garden " for sure, and sin is associated with the number 666, but there's a huge difference between the name of the moon " sin " and the action of " sin ", yet all of these things are related (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe )  (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) (Post deleted by JacquesTrappe ) | Religion Chat Room 23 People Chatting Similar Conversations |
